Britain teaches India about curries 24 Apr 2010 http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/et-cetera/Britain-teaches-India-about-curries/articleshow/5852000.cms KOLKATA: Britain exporting curry to India? The idea seems ludicrous but a group of chefs are in the subcontinent determined to teach locals about British versions of traditional Indian recipes. Indian food has become a mainstay of the British diet, eaten in vast quantities across the country, but few people in the homeland of the curry have ever heard of the dishes that pass off for their national cuisine in Europe. Chicken Tikka Masala, known for its spicy red yoghurt-based sauce and said to be the most popular dish in British restaurants, is unheard of in India where even the word "curry" is seen as a British invention. Dishes with "gravy" are what Britons, or "Britishers" as they are still known in India, would recognise as a curry, though gravy for traditional English folk is something served with roast beef on a Sunday. "The Taste of Britain's Curry Festival" has been running this week in Kolkata, eastern India, the first capital of the British empire on the subcontinent. Advertised widely across the city, the idea is to introduce Indians to some of the dishes that have developed in Britain in the 300 years since the two countries have been linked by trade and colonial rule. "The British Raj in the Indian subcontinent started from Kolkata and Britons had the first Indian curries in this historic city," festival director Syed Bilal Ahmed told AFP. "Bringing back curry to its original place is like a homecoming." The festival features 50 dishes by four Britain-based Indian and Bangladeshi master chefs. Some of the recipes on display are British curry house staples, such as Balti, Jalfrezi and Tikka Masala. "British curries are healthier as they have less spice, less oil and less sugar and salt," added Ahmed, who believes Britain no longer deserves its reputation for poor food. The festival, which organisers plan to take to Bangladesh and Spain, ends on Sunday but its impact might be long-term in Kolkata, a bustling city famed for its passionate gastronome residents. "We plan to continue some dishes of Britain curry even after the festival," said Utpal Mondal, executive chef of host hotel Hindustan International, where sales are up 18 percent since the festival began. Locals appeared to be enjoying the fare on offer. "We came here to get the taste of Britain curry. It's delicious," said Sutapa Sanyal, an employee of a city-based firm who walked into the restaurant with her husband for the first time. ============ --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

G'day Mukund, On 23/04/2010, at 2:55 PM, mukund murty wrote: > Thanks a tonne, John :-) One gram would have been enough. ooroo

G'day John, On 23/04/2010, at 6:01 AM, John E.C. Roberts wrote: > Harshawardhan - I believe you live in Toronto. Harshawardhan does not live in Canada. > Perhaps you or some of the Canada listers can explain to the rest of us > what the h___ is going-on in British Columbia - at Surrey - what is even > making the US press as the 'Jaffer Affair'? Type Jaffer Affair into Google. There are many references to the subject. This subject in NOT the concern of this email List. This subject is now closed. John Feltham.

G'day Mukund, On 23/04/2010, at 12:57 AM, mukund murty wrote: > It's actually P/ O Prune, and sorry, John, but I couldn't open the > url you'd sent. http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafiles/807515EC_5056_A318_A81019921CF3F852.pdf and... http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafiles/64CE4D9A_5056_A318_A8201FB9880B9749.pdf No worries, be aware that these two links directly download the two pdf files to your computer. ooroo

Thanks a tonne, John :-) On 23 April 2010 11:38, John Feltham <[email protected]> wrote: > G'day Mukund, > > On 23/04/2010, at 12:57 AM, mukund murty wrote: > > > It's actually P/ O Prune, and sorry, John, but I couldn't open the > > url you'd sent. > > > http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafiles/807515EC_5056_A318_A81019921CF3F852.pdf > > and... > > > http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafiles/64CE4D9A_5056_A318_A8201FB9880B9749.pdf > > No worries, be aware that these two links directly download the two pdf > files to your computer. > > > > ooroo > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The Deb who became a guerrilla: The Rodean-educated beauty who saved the Empire from the Japanese By Anabel Venning 23rd April 2010 Ursula Graham Bower lived with the Naga tribesmen and fought against the Japanese in World War II [ROAD OF BONES: The Siege Of Kohima 1944. The Epic Story Of The Last Great Stand Of Empire, by Fergal Keane (Harper Press, £25.) ] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1268202/The-Deb-guerrilla--The-Rodean-educated-beauty-saved-Empire-Japanese.html# --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

Dear Listers My wife, Goretti, while going through an old box of mementos has come across a heavy medal which has the inscription 'The Bell Medal' with an angel on a pedestal with four miniature riflemen facing the cardinal points of the compass at the base. On the reverse side are inscribed the words 'presented by the Society of Miniature Rifle Clubs' within a halo of olive-leaves. Could any lister throw some light on this medal and put a date to it. My wife is not sure if it it belonged to her father who was in the British-India Army or grandfather. Many thanks, Michael

Dear Listers My wife, Goretti, while going through an old box of memento has come across a heavy medal which has the inscription 'The Bell Medal' with an angel on a pedestal with four miniature riflemen facing the cardinal points of the compass at the base. On the reverse side are inscribed the words 'presented by the Society of Miniature Rifle Clubs' within a halo of olive-leaves. Could any luster throw some light on this medal and put a date to it. My wife is not sure it it belonged to her father who was in the British-India Army or grandfather. Many thanks, Michael

G'day Mukund, On 22/04/2010, at 6:55 PM, mukund murty wrote: << There was a famous advertisement those days, where the bottom part of the poster said "This is Singh" and showed Harjunder Singh as a qualified A & E mechanic with his photograph, and above that "This is Pring" and showed a photograph of him. >> This is one of the photos that I mentioned that I had and that I offered to send to anyone interested in seeing them. ooroo

G'day Andrew, On 22/04/2010, at 5:40 PM, Andrew Sellon wrote: > Not to be confused with that other veteran of WW II, F/O Prune. Indeed. You may not have heard that the RAF Safety Branch had restarted publication of the fine Air Safety magazine, "Air Clues," wherein you will find Wing Commander Spry. Go to... http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafiles/807515EC_5056_A318_A81019921CF3F852.pdf There are only two editions printed so far. ooroo

It's actually P/ O Prune, and sorry, John, but I couldn't open the url you'd sent. And yes, please send to everyone the poster with Singh (sorry, I'd mis-typed Harjinder as Harjunder) and Pring. Cheers and God Bless On 22 April 2010 19:48, John Feltham <[email protected]> wrote: > G'day Andrew, > > On 22/04/2010, at 5:40 PM, Andrew Sellon wrote: > > > Not to be confused with that other veteran of WW II, F/O Prune. > > Indeed. > > You may not have heard that the RAF Safety Branch had restarted publication > of the fine Air Safety magazine, "Air Clues," wherein you will find Wing > Commander Spry. > > > > Go to... > > > http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafcms/mediafiles/807515EC_5056_A318_A81019921CF3F852.pdf > > There are only two editions printed so far. > > > > ooroo > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi John, Not to be flippant, just Google "Jaffer Affair" and take your pick. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "John E.C. Roberts" <[email protected]> To: "British Raj" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:01 PM Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Sikhs in Canada > Harshawardhan - I believe you live in Toronto. Perhaps you or some of > the Canada listers can explain to the rest of us what the h___ is going-on > in British Columbia - at Surrey - what is even making the US press as the > 'Jaffer Affair'? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2829 - Release Date: 04/22/10 14:31:00

Harshawardhan - I believe you live in Toronto. Perhaps you or some of the Canada listers can explain to the rest of us what the h___ is going-on in British Columbia - at Surrey - what is even making the US press as the 'Jaffer Affair'?

There was a famous advertisement those days, where the bottom part of the poster said "This is Singh" and showed Harjunder Singh as a qualified A & E mechanic with his photograph, and above that "This is Pring" and showed a photograph of him. On 22 April 2010 14:40, Andrew Sellon <[email protected]> wrote: > John Feltham wrote: > > > > I have been thinking about your question all day and then I realised that > Flying Officer Pring, was discussed at some length some time ago n this > list. > > > > > Not to be confused with that other veteran of WW II, F/O Prune. > > Yours Aye Andrew Sellon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John Feltham wrote: > > I have been thinking about your question all day and then I realised that Flying Officer Pring, was discussed at some length some time ago n this list. > > Not to be confused with that other veteran of WW II, F/O Prune. Yours Aye Andrew Sellon

Thursday, Feb 18, 2010 The Anglo Indian community has shrunk and the few still living in the city recall their golden days to S.ABRAHAM MILLS http://www.thehindu.com/mp/2010/02/18/stories/2010021851530400.htm --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

G'day folks, Some of you may not have heard of these interesting books. ooroo Begin forwarded message: Pagoda Tree Press are pleased to announce the publication of another title in our ongoing series of reprints of rare Himalayan Guide books. Full details of this book and all other titles, are also available on our web site at: http://web.me.com/hughashleyrayner/pagodatreepress.com/Routes_in_the_Western-Himalayas_1922.html Please contact Pagoda Tree Press, if you would like to order a copy of any of these new titles With Best Wishes, Hugh Rayner Routes in the Western-Himalaya, Kashmir, &c. Volume I Pûnch, Kashmir, Ladakh. By Major Kenneth Mason, M.C., R.E., Officiating Deputy Superintendent, Survey of India. First published in 1922; the original of this work is now extremely rare, and is reprinted now by Pagoda Tree Press for the first time since the 2nd and final impression of 1929. The compiler, Major Kenneth Mason, of the Survey of India, was an experienced Himalayan traveller and surveyor; (who in later life, went on to write the seminal history of Himalayan exploration ‘Abode of Snow’) and in producing this important route planner he extensively revised and enlarged part of Col. T. G. Montgomerie’s original 1865 Himalayan Route Guide. Entitled Volume I, 1 it details all the major western trans-Himalayan routes, in Kashmir, Punch and Ladakh; detailing distances, Dak Bungalows and Rest Houses, bridges, fodder etc. This new edition has been completely re-typset, but still retains the style, layout and pagination of the original, and is an invaluable reference source for anyone travelling in the region, and for all researchers of Himalayan travel, mountaineering and exploration. It also contains as an additional appendix, the supplementary notes and corrections, as issued by the Survey of India in 1925. Format: A5 PB. pp:288. with 2 b/w folding index maps. ISBN: 978-1904289-6 7-8 Price: £20.00 Publication Date: April 18th 2010 1 . Note: The projected companion Volume II, was unfortunately never published, however; due to the severe financial problems in the Survey of India, during the Great Depression. We have also just produced a revised edition of the following title; which is now in print again: NAINI TAL AND THE KUMAUN LAKES An Anthology of Three Early Guide Books Compiled & Edited by Hugh Rayner A compilation of 3 scarce early guide books to the region: ‘Naini Tal & the Kumaun Lakes’ by C. W. Murphy; first published in 1921; ‘Naini Tal A Historical and Descriptive Account’, first published in 1928 and finally, ‘Angling in the Kumaun Lakes’ by W. Walker, first published in 1888. It is well illustrated, with both the plates and maps from the original works, as well as an additional selection of other early photographs of the area. Format: A5 in soft covers. pp172. ISBN: 978-1904289-15-9. Price: £16.00 Plus postage; at cost: UK 1st class: £1.08 Worldwide Airmail: £3.81 Worldwide Surface Mail: £1.91 EEC Airmail: £2.16 We are also now stocking copies of another new title, by Terrier Press, which you may well find of interest: FORGOTTEN REGIMENTS Regular and Volunteer Units of the British Far East By Barry Renfrew This is a fascinating account of the Indian and other soldiers who served, often far from their homes, in the regular and volunteer military units of Britain’s Far Eastern empire. It is a compelling slice of Indian and Far Eastern military and social history in the high noon of empire. Units covered range from the Punjabis of the Hong Kong Regiment to the Sikhs of the Malay States Guides and the Hong Kong-Singapore Royal Artillery along with Burmese, Chinese, Malay and European formations. Drawing on rare archival sources and first-hand memoirs, each unit is brought alive with detailed accounts of their history, war service and the men who served in them. It belongs on the book shelf of anyone interested in the history of British India and the Empire. Recent reviews of Forgotten Regiments: * “Highly recommended.” Indian Military Historical Society * “It is a fascinating account of hitherto little known and unrecognised military units who richly deserve their recorded place in history. This has now been achieved by this well researched and well written book.” Royal United Services of Victoria (Australia) * “It succeeds admirably.” Chowkidar, BACSA * “Don’t ignore this new work.” The Bulletin, Military History Society Published by: Terrier Press, London. 2009. 1st edition. Format: 8vo case printed hardback; pp:viii/246, with b/w illustrations. ISBN: 978-0- 9563175-0-6 (R.R.P. £25.00) Special Offer PTP Price: £20.00 Postage: UK 2nd class £3.50

these records are on You Tube Patricia Page BC Canada Quoting Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar <[email protected]>: > > Could be true, of course, but still, sounds rather hyperbolic. > > *** Our diaphragm was not very sensitive and we still required robust, > even voices to make good records. Fat, jolly Bert Sheppard, with his > powerful tenor voice and clear diction, gave us our most successful > results. We used him under many names and as an old minstrel man > he was very versatile. His repertoire comprised negro airs, Irish and > English ballads, comic and patter songs, parodies and yodels. The > spontaneous and boisterous laugh he could conjure up was most > infectious and was heard by thousands through his records. Bert > Sheppard's "Whistling Coon" and "The Laughing Song" were world- > famous. In India alone over half a million records of the latter were > sold. In the bazaars of India I have seen dozens of natives seated > on their haunches round a gramophone, rocking with laughter, whilst > playing Sheppard's laughing record; in fact, this is the only time I have > ever heard Indians laugh heartily. The record is still available there > and I believe that to this day it sells in China, Africa, and Japan as well. > *** > > Snipped from the book The Music Goes Round (1942) > by F. W. Gaisberg (Publisher: The Macmillan Company). > > Online at > http://www.archive.org/details/musicgoesround011057mbp > > --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Could be true, of course, but still, sounds rather hyperbolic. *** Our diaphragm was not very sensitive and we still required robust, even voices to make good records. Fat, jolly Bert Sheppard, with his powerful tenor voice and clear diction, gave us our most successful results. We used him under many names and as an old minstrel man he was very versatile. His repertoire comprised negro airs, Irish and English ballads, comic and patter songs, parodies and yodels. The spontaneous and boisterous laugh he could conjure up was most infectious and was heard by thousands through his records. Bert Sheppard's "Whistling Coon" and "The Laughing Song" were world- famous. In India alone over half a million records of the latter were sold. In the bazaars of India I have seen dozens of natives seated on their haunches round a gramophone, rocking with laughter, whilst playing Sheppard's laughing record; in fact, this is the only time I have ever heard Indians laugh heartily. The record is still available there and I believe that to this day it sells in China, Africa, and Japan as well. *** Snipped from the book The Music Goes Round (1942) by F. W. Gaisberg (Publisher: The Macmillan Company). Online at http://www.archive.org/details/musicgoesround011057mbp --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

The man who introduced Bengal to the world of gramophone was FW Gaisberg, the first recording engineer of the Gramophone Company. From 1900 to 1907, he made several trips to Kolkata and other parts of India, urging local entrepreneurs to join him in his venture to start sound recording in India. In 1902, Gaisberg made the first disc recording of Indian artistes. The singer Gauhar Jan of Kolkata was the first Indian and Bengali artist to have her songs recorded, gaining immediate celebrity. Frederick William ("Fred") Gaisberg, 1873 - 1951 is known as a Recording Pioneer. Something of his life story (not much, I admit) is recorded here - http://www.recordingpioneers.com/RP_GAISBERG1.html And then this story, dated Sunday, April 13, 2008 http://www.tribuneindia.com/2008/20080413/spectrum/main1.htm --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar