Hi all, See the bottom of page 196. I guess that's a "Gotcha" for some! John Badham, NZ > G'day Harshawardhan, > > On 27/04/2010, at 5:31 PM, Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar wrote: > > << Mine is a 2005 reprint and it has some blank pages - that is, the > entire text of chapter 14 is missing. The chapter number and > heading (Sex, Drugs, and Rock 'n' Roll) are there but nothing > further on those four pages - from 193 to 196. I wonder why. >. > > > My copy is from 1996 and it too has the pages that you mention - not > missing, but with text printed on them. Perhaps there was no "Sex, Drugs, > and Rock 'n' Roll" in those days eh? > > Perhaps Hazel can enlighten us all, but I suspect that the censors have > been at work! > > And perhaps Hazel can post the missing text to this Forum. > > We won't tell anyone. > > :-) > > ooroo > > > > > > > > > > That apart, it's a mighty informative and warmly written book. The > author, who is our member - though she hasn't posted anything > of late -, deserves congratulations. > > Here is some interesting reading material on these British-era > old schools in India: > > LEARNING TO SPEAK LIKE THE MASTERS > Public schools, out of fashion in Britain, are striking fresh root > in Asia, where they continue to be viewed with much appreciation > and awe, writes Deep K. Datta-Ray. > > Wednesday, October 13, 2004 > > http://www.telegraphindia.com/1041013/asp/opinion/story_3858425.asp > > --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

G'day Harshawardhan, On 27/04/2010, at 5:31 PM, Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar wrote: << Mine is a 2005 reprint and it has some blank pages - that is, the entire text of chapter 14 is missing. The chapter number and heading (Sex, Drugs, and Rock 'n' Roll) are there but nothing further on those four pages - from 193 to 196. I wonder why. >. My copy is from 1996 and it too has the pages that you mention - not missing, but with text printed on them. Perhaps there was no "Sex, Drugs, and Rock 'n' Roll" in those days eh? Perhaps Hazel can enlighten us all, but I suspect that the censors have been at work! And perhaps Hazel can post the missing text to this Forum. We won't tell anyone. :-) ooroo That apart, it's a mighty informative and warmly written book. The author, who is our member - though she hasn't posted anything of late -, deserves congratulations. Here is some interesting reading material on these British-era old schools in India: LEARNING TO SPEAK LIKE THE MASTERS Public schools, out of fashion in Britain, are striking fresh root in Asia, where they continue to be viewed with much appreciation and awe, writes Deep K. Datta-Ray. Wednesday, October 13, 2004 http://www.telegraphindia.com/1041013/asp/opinion/story_3858425.asp --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

G'day Harshawardhan, On 27/04/2010, at 5:31 PM, Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar wrote: > I have finally acquired a copy of Hazel Innes Craig's excellent > book ''Under The Old School Topee'' (thanks to Pip Waterfield). And my thanks to PIp too. > It is now easy for me to imagine how our esteemed John Feltham > might have spent his school life up in Darjeeling. :-) Arrrrgh!!! I went to school in Kurseong, where the best tea comes from. See... http://www.makaibari.com/mystical.html Even Prince Charles buys his char from Makaibari. Harshawardhan it is like saying that you live in Buti Bori! :-) ooroo

Hi Liz, Liz, no........I was rather hoping that they had managed to get a few more on there.....sigh!! :-/ Cheers, Lynne. :)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Copies of Bengal Past andPresent AvailableOnline > Hi Lynne, > > Thanks for that. As far as I can see on 1907 is available on > www.archive.org. Nothing else. Are YOU able to access other years and > volumnes? > > Liz > > Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2010? > Please go to www.chater-genealogy.com. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Liz, Liz, you can download copies from www.archive.org Cheers, Lynne. :)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:27 PM Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] Copies of Bengal Past and Present AvailableOnline >I discovered today that on the website of the Digital Library of India you > are now able to access full copies of certain volumes of "Bengal Past and > Present". HOWEVER, you cannot download them, you can only read them > online > - and VERY slowly. > > > > 1918. Vol.9 > > 1915. Vol.10 > > 1916. Vol.13 > > 1923. Vol.25 > > 1924. Vol.28 > > 1925. Vol.29 > > 1926. Vol.31. > > 1926. Vol.32. > > 1927. Vol.33.part 2 > > 1927. Vol.33-34 > > 1928. Vol.35 > > 1929. Vol.37-38 > > 1932. Vol.44. > > 1908. Vol. 2 part 2. > > 1923. Vol.25 part 1-2 > > 1935. Vol. 49. Part 1 > > > > Best wishes > > Liz > > Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2010? > > Please go to <http://www.chater-genealogy.com/> www.chater-genealogy.com. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As a matter of fact, those who are willing to experiment with uncommon programmes and invest some time and patience in learning how to use them, will find either Flash Get or DTA (Down Them All) very convenient to download all of those text or tiff image pages ''at one fell swoop''. This is called Batch Downloading. You can get these programmes independently or as Firefox extensions. Highly recommended for getting down those books from the Digital Library of India. --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz" Individual TXT pages are downloadable but it is a torturously slow process even with a fast connection. Also the TXT format can lose some wording and of course pictures can't be downloaded that way either.

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Feltham" I went to school in Kurseong, where the best tea comes from. Even Prince Charles buys his char from Makaibari. Harshawardhan it is like saying that you live in Buti Bori! ===================================== Wish it were true! A huge international air cargo complex catering to the needs of entire India is coming up a few miles from the existing airport in Nagpur - and Buti Bori (a small village 20 miles from Nagpur) lies just beyond. It's also close to the newly-built cricket stadium. And then there is this sprawling industrial area at Buti Bori, set up some years ago by our state government for entrepreneurs who want to move away from the traditional Bombay-Poona belt. ALL this has made the property prices in and around that place zoom skywards - almost all agricultural estates between Nagpur and Buti Bori have been sold out, converted to residential or commercial use; and now you can get a 3000 sq. ft. of plot there only for what previously we used to expect from a prime piece of land in downtown Nagpur. So if you are a multi- millionnaire and wish to make a fast buck, think of buying an acre of land in Buti Bori. Guaranteed hundred per cent doubling in just one or two years. Should I talk to a realtor I know? You can thank me, John, by inviting me for a cup of the best Kurseong tea that is served to HRH. (GRIN) How did you find the name in the first place? Sorry, folks, for this off-topic chant. To bring this on-topic, it is well-known that Nagpur is considered the exact geographical centre of India and we have a British-era stone pillar that marks the spot. Locally it's called the Zero Mile Stone. However, recent studies have indicated that the dead centre of India is not in Nagpur, but some miles up north on the way to Jabalpur (Jubbulpore) via Kamptee Cantt. But, interestingly, it's this place Buti Bori which marks the exact magnetic centre of India, and it is in the south-westerly direction from Nagpur. Scientists working for the Government of India proved this some twenty-five years ago and that's why they chose Buti Bori to house the government-owned radio station's (All India Radio) most powerful medium-wave transmitter for an all-India broadcasting coverage. A geo-stationary satellite hovers some twenty thirty miles up in Space exactly above the Buti Bori transmitter's long antenna - and catches the signals it beams up, for further relay throughout India. The 1000-kw transmitter beast is so powerful that when it starts working every evening for a 12-hour stint, you can feel its reverberations shaking the earth in a three or four mile radius. What a long way we have travelled since the first one-KW radio transmitter began working at Nagpur in 1948. And 'that' machine was imported from Aurangabad which was till then in the Nizam of Hyderabad's domain. He had imported it originally from England for setting up a radio station at Aurangabad, much before 1947. It was shut down during the 1948 Police Action to liberate Hyderabad and the machinery was moved on to Nagpur. --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

Brilliant tip Harshawardhan - thanks! Liz Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2010? Please go to www.chater-genealogy.com.

Individual TXT pages are downloadable but it is a torturously slow process even with a fast connection. Also the TXT format can lose some wording and of course pictures can't be downloaded that way either. Liz Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2010? Please go to www.chater-genealogy.com. <snip But I think the contents are down-loadable ( page wise) if you choose the TXT format>.

Hi Lynne, Thanks for that. As far as I can see on 1907 is available on www.archive.org. Nothing else. Are YOU able to access other years and volumnes? Liz Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2010? Please go to www.chater-genealogy.com.

I discovered today that on the website of the Digital Library of India you are now able to access full copies of certain volumes of "Bengal Past and Present". HOWEVER, you cannot download them, you can only read them online - and VERY slowly. 1918. Vol.9 1915. Vol.10 1916. Vol.13 1923. Vol.25 1924. Vol.28 1925. Vol.29 1926. Vol.31. 1926. Vol.32. 1927. Vol.33.part 2 1927. Vol.33-34 1928. Vol.35 1929. Vol.37-38 1932. Vol.44. 1908. Vol. 2 part 2. 1923. Vol.25 part 1-2 1935. Vol. 49. Part 1 Best wishes Liz Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2010? Please go to <http://www.chater-genealogy.com/> www.chater-genealogy.com.

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http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/gandhi-jayanti-special-the-mahatmas-visit-to-darjeeling/#more-34838 --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

In 1846, Joseph Dalton Hooker a botanist, biogeographer and traveler obtained a government grant for the trip to India. And as fate would have it, he was granted free passage on the ships taking Lord Dalhousie, the newly-appointed Governor General, to India. After visiting Calcutta, Hooker came to Darjeeling where he met Brian Houghton Hodgson, an expert on Nepalese culture, Buddhism and collector of Sanskrit manuscripts who was also a passionate naturalist. The two became close friends and Hodgson helped Hooker prepare for his trip into the Himalaya. [snip] http://beacononline.wordpress.com/2009/09/30/personalities-hooker-sir-joseph-dalton/#more-34763 --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

I have finally acquired a copy of Hazel Innes Craig's excellent book ''Under The Old School Topee'' (thanks to Pip Waterfield). Many of our members must have read it already. It is now easy for me to imagine how our esteemed John Feltham might have spent his school life up in Darjeeling. :-) Mine is a 2005 reprint and it has some blank pages - that is, the entire text of chapter 14 is missing. The chapter number and heading (Sex, Drugs, and Rock 'n' Roll) are there but nothing further on those four pages - from 193 to 196. I wonder why. That apart, it's a mighty informative and warmly written book. The author, who is our member - though she hasn't posted anything of late -, deserves congratulations. Here is some interesting reading material on these British-era old schools in India: LEARNING TO SPEAK LIKE THE MASTERS Public schools, out of fashion in Britain, are striking fresh root in Asia, where they continue to be viewed with much appreciation and awe, writes Deep K. Datta-Ray. Wednesday, October 13, 2004 http://www.telegraphindia.com/1041013/asp/opinion/story_3858425.asp --- Harshawardhan_Bosham Nimkhedkar

Brian, An HMS Arachne was very much to the forefront of the Burmese War in the 1826-30 period. Though with the time span you mention and the Navy reusing ships names it may not be the same vessel; no mention of your Montgomerie was shewn in my copies of the History of the Indian Navy. A rather sour note was added at the end of this campaign that the Indian Navy officers were not rewarded as well as were all of the Royal Navy ones who mostly were promoted and given awards. The "Bombay Marine" were the main force and it didn't go down to well that eventually their Commander only received a Knight Batchelor rather than the Order of the Bath dished out to the Navy!!!! Not much changes in this world...{;}}> Peter D Rogers, Suffolk UK -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Some twenty years ago my aunt gave me a watercolour which bears the > inscription: "H.M.S. Arachne 18 guns" - John E. Montgomerie, Commander, > Campache Bay, Gulf of Mexico, 26 June 1859." It's a rather fine painting > of the ship under bare masts in a storm. I asked my aunt how she owned it > but she couldn't remember. > Some years later, when researching my family history, I discovered that my > great-great-aunt, Jane Farrington (1833-1916), had married a Thomas E. > Montogerie. Further research showed that this Thomas Montgomerie worked on > the Great Trigonometrical Survey of India, and it was he who first > surveyed K2, the second highest mountain in the world, in 1856 (I think). > I then twigged that there must be a connecttion with the John Montgomerie > of the painting. Sure enough - they were brothers; John died unmarried. I > suppose the painting came from widow Jane to her niece, my grandmother, > and then to my aunt. > Thomas Montgomerie's survey notes are in the Bodleian Library in Oxford - > the India section near Blackwells bookshop. The K2 was merely Number 2 in > the Karakoram Range. It was called Mt Godwin-Austen when I was a > schoolboy, but reverted to K2 later. > It's connections like this that make researching family history so > rewarding - and fascinating. > > Brian Duncan > > (currently in Kirtlington, Oxon, returning to Gettysburg, PA, tomorrow)# > > Researching: Duncan, McKennie, Dinwiddie, Bracken, Farrington, etc.

Some twenty years ago my aunt gave me a watercolour which bears the inscription: "H.M.S. Arachne 18 guns" - John E. Montgomerie, Commander, Campache Bay, Gulf of Mexico, 26 June 1859." It's a rather fine painting of the ship under bare masts in a storm. I asked my aunt how she owned it but she couldn't remember. Some years later, when researching my family history, I discovered that my great-great-aunt, Jane Farrington (1833-1916), had married a Thomas E. Montogerie. Further research showed that this Thomas Montgomerie worked on the Great Trigonometrical Survey of India, and it was he who first surveyed K2, the second highest mountain in the world, in 1856 (I think). I then twigged that there must be a connecttion with the John Montgomerie of the painting. Sure enough - they were brothers; John died unmarried. I suppose the painting came from widow Jane to her niece, my grandmother, and then to my aunt. Thomas Montgomerie's survey notes are in the Bodleian Library in Oxford - the India section near Blackwells bookshop. The K2 was merely Number 2 in the Karakoram Range. It was called Mt Godwin-Austen when I was a schoolboy, but reverted to K2 later. It's connections like this that make researching family history so rewarding - and fascinating. Best wishes Brian Duncan (currently in Kirtlington, Oxon, returning to Gettysburg, PA, tomorrow)# Researching: Duncan, McKennie, Dinwiddie, Bracken, Farrington, etc. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1

----- Original Message ----- From: Carol&PT [email protected] Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 5:32 PM Subject: Durand Medal After many years, I have been told that the ribbon (without a medal) with my father's four medals from WWII, incl. Burma Star, is from the Durand Medal. This was apparently a bronze medal, to be presented annually to an Indian Officer, an N.C.O. or a Sapper who in the opinion of the Commandant of his Corps (Royal Bengal Engineers) had distinguished himself as a Soldier and a Sapper by good and efficient service. (Told me by the Royal Engineers Museum). My father joined the Sappers & Miners in 1941 (he was living and working at Gondalpara, near Chandernagore) and eventually went into Burma, building bailey bridges and so on. Does anyone know how I would find out if (a) it was awarded to him, and (b) if so, when and why. He had been given two khukree knives at some point - was one of them in exchange for the actual medal, keeping the ribbon? Who knows!! Any advice will be gratefully received! Carol T.

Thanks, Les...did that...same situation, no idea who it was presented to and how it came to be in my wife's memento box. Warm regards, Mike

> From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:26:20 +0500 > Subject: [INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ] The Bell Medal????? > > Dear Listers > > My wife, Goretti, while going through an old box of memento has come across > a heavy medal which has the inscription 'The Bell Medal' with an angel on a > pedestal with four miniature riflemen facing the cardinal points of the > compass at the base. On the reverse side are inscribed the words 'presented > by the Society of Miniature Rifle Clubs' within a halo of olive-leaves. > > Could any luster throw some light on this medal and put a date to it. My > wife is not sure it it belonged to her father who was in the British-India > Army or grandfather. > > Many thanks, > > Michael > Hi Mike..........just type " The Bell Medal "in your GOOGLE Search > You will find loads of information.. I also have a medal in my "junk box" . Had it for over sixty years but was never able to find where it came or who it was presented to... It was first awarded in the year 1919 Regards ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Les ----------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message