Hello everyone I am hoping that one of the India-oriented genealogical experts on this list can help me with a mystery. It concerns my 4X great-grandfather or 4X grand-uncle - I don’t know which! The man I recently found out I was descended from is Suetonius Grant Heatly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suetonius_Grant_Heatly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suetonius_Grant_Heatly> At the end of the Wikipedia entry, it mentions that his daughter “Ann” married Joseph Welsh in 1793 (or so). In fact, it was his daughter JESSIE who married Joseph Heatly, which is born out by ecclesiastical and obituary records. My grandmother had the middle name WELSH from this union, as did all her ancestors on her father’s side (but none of us every thought to ask where the WELSH came from). This is a link to a picture of the “wife” of Suetonius, the woman we all believe was my 4th gg-mother http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/charles-smith-an-indian-woman-reclining-on-4750640-details.aspx?intObjectID=4750640 <http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/charles-smith-an-indian-woman-reclining-on-4750640-details.aspx?intObjectID=4750640> (the “Persian Princess” my grandmother told me about years ago, which I didn’t believe at the time). So? Where’s the mystery? Well, I recently found on Findmypast three baptismal records of children born to the Heatly brothers (Suetonius and Patrick). And Jessie is stated to be the daughter of PATRICK, not Suetonius, as is another daughter, Temperance. Jessie was baptized in 1781. Suetonius is listed only as the father of Mary. However, I know that Suetonius was also the father of Jacob Lambert Heatly and Of course, in those old baptismal records, there is no mention of a mother, partly because these baby girls were “natural” children. Suetonius died young, in India, but Patrick made millions trading opium and returned to England, marrying an Ann Carey, and living to a good old age but died purportedly childless. So now I don’t know which one I am descended from! It doesn’t really matter, I suppose, but I would rather not have opium in my background! I have read and analyzed Patrick Heatly’s will, and he doesn’t mention anybody who isn’t clearly a nephew or niece or other relative of either of his wife or himself, and I have traced all these nephews and nieces to siblings of Patrick or Ann. However, in Patrick’s will, there is one Jessie Delafield, who is noted as a niece, but it seems to be that she couldn’t be a “real” niece. Could this be my ancestor, “my” Jessie? Could both brothers have fathered daughters named Jessie? Just as a side note, another sibling of the Heatly brothers, a sister named Mary, was the mother of James Tod, author of the much-respected "Annals and Antiquities of Rajas'han; Travels in Western India”. The father of the Heatly brothers, Andrew Heatly, was a slave trader in Newport, Rhode island, (and a partner of Captain Affleck, another slave trader and ancestor of the actor, Ben Affleck) so there is not much to be proud of as a Heatly descendant. Still, I would like to know which one I am descended from and which brach I belong to. Until a year ago, I had no idea that I was connected in any way to India, and then I found out by accident that my maternal grandmother was born there. After that, I found out that her father (Sir George Welsh Kellner), grandfather, and great-grandfather, as well as all her female progenitors, had all been born there and that we are all “Eurasian”! It was a fascinating surprise. I don’t know if my mother knew about this, but she certainly never mentioned it to me. My cousins are all astonished by the revelation as well! Can anybody help with the mystery of which Heatly brother fathered Joseph Welsh’s wife, my 4X gg-mother)? Anthea Tillyer New York City (where, coincidentally, we are having an “Indian Summer”)

Anthea - I would trust the Bishops' Transcripts from India (available on Find My Past) which state that Jessie was the daughter of Patrick Heatly, rather than a Wikipeadia article by a contributor. Just because Patick Heatly's will doesn't mention any bequests to his child/children by an Indian "bibi", doesn't mean that he wasn't their father! In fact, in those days, when the Englishman left India the children would frequent be left behind and forgotten when it came tobeing the beneficiaries of his will. For further information regarding these times in India, you cannot do better than read William Dalrymple's "White Moguls". On the other subject of your grandmother being born in India, then her mother would have been Sir George Kellner's first wife, Anne Caroline Gardener. Her family is connected to my husband's - Anne being his 1st cousin 4 x removed. Please contact me if you wish any further information on her family. Regards Ainslie Sharpe -----Original Message----- From: india-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:india-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anthea Tillyer via Sent: Saturday, 29 August 2015 5:09 AM To: india@rootsweb.com Subject: [INDIA] A Heatly mystery Hello everyone I am hoping that one of the India-oriented genealogical experts on this list can help me with a mystery. It concerns my 4X great-grandfather or 4X grand-uncle - I don’t know which! The man I recently found out I was descended from is Suetonius Grant Heatly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suetonius_Grant_Heatly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suetonius_Grant_Heatly> At the end of the Wikipedia entry, it mentions that his daughter “Ann” married Joseph Welsh in 1793 (or so). In fact, it was his daughter JESSIE who married Joseph Heatly, which is born out by ecclesiastical and obituary records. My grandmother had the middle name WELSH from this union, as did all her ancestors on her father’s side (but none of us every thought to ask where the WELSH came from). This is a link to a picture of the “wife” of Suetonius, the woman we all believe was my 4th gg-mother http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/charles-smith-an-indian-woman-reclining-on-4750640-details.aspx?intObjectID=4750640 <http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/charles-smith-an-indian-woman-reclining-on-4750640-details.aspx?intObjectID=4750640> (the “Persian Princess” my grandmother told me about years ago, which I didn’t believe at the time). So? Where’s the mystery? Well, I recently found on Findmypast three baptismal records of children born to the Heatly brothers (Suetonius and Patrick). And Jessie is stated to be the daughter of PATRICK, not Suetonius, as is another daughter, Temperance. Jessie was baptized in 1781. Suetonius is listed only as the father of Mary. However, I know that Suetonius was also the father of Jacob Lambert Heatly and Of course, in those old baptismal records, there is no mention of a mother, partly because these baby girls were “natural” children. Suetonius died young, in India, but Patrick made millions trading opium and returned to England, marrying an Ann Carey, and living to a good old age but died purportedly childless. So now I don’t know which one I am descended from! It doesn’t really matter, I suppose, but I would rather not have opium in my background! I have read and analyzed Patrick Heatly’s will, and he doesn’t mention anybody who isn’t clearly a nephew or niece or other relative of either of his wife or himself, and I have traced all these nephews and nieces to siblings of Patrick or Ann. However, in Patrick’s will, there is one Jessie Delafield, who is noted as a niece, but it seems to be that she couldn’t be a “real” niece. Could this be my ancestor, “my” Jessie? Could both brothers have fathered daughters named Jessie? Just as a side note, another sibling of the Heatly brothers, a sister named Mary, was the mother of James Tod, author of the much-respected "Annals and Antiquities of Rajas'han; Travels in Western India”. The father of the Heatly brothers, Andrew Heatly, was a slave trader in Newport, Rhode island, (and a partner of Captain Affleck, another slave trader and ancestor of the actor, Ben Affleck) so there is not much to be proud of as a Heatly descendant. Still, I would like to know which one I am descended from and which brach I belong to. Until a year ago, I had no idea that I was connected in any way to India, and then I found out by accident that my maternal grandmother was born there. After that, I found out that her father (Sir George Welsh Kellner), grandfather, and great-grandfather, as well as all her female progenitors, had all been born there and that we are all “Eurasian”! It was a fascinating surprise. I don’t know if my mother knew about this, but she certainly never mentioned it to me. My cousins are all astonished by the revelation as well! Can anybody help with the mystery of which Heatly brother fathered Joseph Welsh’s wife, my 4X gg-mother)? Anthea Tillyer New York City (where, coincidentally, we are having an “Indian Summer”) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message