Further to my request re the availability of Civil Lists for Uncovenanted Civil Servants {V/13 series?] for the time period 1860-1875, would there likely be records of Writers in the Police Dept in the records listed below please. a.. L/AG/20/1/6-151, Civil Leave Pay Books 1860-1963, mainly Imperial and Provincial Services. a.. L/AG/34/14A, Deaths in the Uncovenanted Service in India 1870-1949, for all (European) grades My John Lynch Jnr. a Writer in the Dawk Bearer Department was found in the L/F/10 series for 1866 but unfortunately these records jump to 1878 for the next listing. He was not found in 1875 Hyderabad list V/13 series so perhaps he died prior to this or was no longer in this department, so I am hoping he may appear in any of the above records. John Thorpe Jnr. was born 1829 to John Thorpe & Paulina. Thank you Joan -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1101 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hi Joan, Only one of my ancestors appears in the "Deaths in the Uncovenanted Service". The record I have is a monthly return dated 28th July 1906 from the Secretary to the Government of India to H.M.'s Under-Secretary of State for India. In this instance there are five deaths shown for the month of May. Mrs Beevers, pensioner, Kamptee Mr R.T.B. Blake, Officiating Inspector of Police, Bassein Mr T.L. Jones, Jailor 3rd grade Rangoon Mr G.H. Rider, Jailor 2nd grade Bassein Mr J.H. Bower, pensioner, Bhagalpur. My ancestor, George Rider, had been born in Australia of English parents (from Devon) and passed examinations (at an undisclosed location) in order to obtain the post of Provincial Sorting Clerk in the Post Office Department. I have numerous other people in my tree who held similar posts at the same time or later, but George is unique among them in appearing in L/AG/34/14A lists. These others must also have had to pass examinations. The only difference I can see is that he can be proved to be born of wholly English parents. One has to also ask why these records were deemed of such importance as to be sent to the Under-Secretary of State, when there were many deaths of people of higher rank than these which were not reported like this. It seems to me the answer lies in the subtext "for all (European) grades" . My interpretation is that the report fills the same function as present-day reports from Embassies of the deaths of British Citizens in foreign territory. So the answer to your question whether John Thorpe (Lynch?) appears in these records would depend not only on his parentage, but also whether he was registered as a British (or other European) Citizen. His grade certainly qualifies him. good luck, Mark

Hi Mark Sorry, I forgot to apologise for the mistake in the name which as you thought correctly was John THORPE Jnr. and not Lynch as I had typed. Another senior moment with all the John's in this family. Cheers Joan > So the answer to your question whether John Thorpe (Lynch?) appears in > these > records would depend not only on his parentage, but also whether he was > registered as a British (or other European) Citizen. His grade certainly > qualifies him. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1102 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message