From FIBIS I have from the Bengal Military Orphan Society Child Surname: Brown Child Forename: Ellen DOB: 10 Sep 1840 Date of Admission: Arrived in England 24 April 1849 Fathers Name: Bt Major W Brown To who pension payable: Agents Date of Discharge: 26 May 1853 Remarks: Dead (Name crossed through on original document) My questions what is the significance of "Name crossed through on original document". What proof is there that she was "dead". And when and where did she die? In England or India? I found her in the 1851 census in Bristol, Clifton, Gloucestershire, England living with a Henry Marshall and family and she is listed as Ellen Brown, 11, "Scholar" b. India. The US Ancestry World index has her incorrectly listed as age 14 but if you look at the record, it is 11. How do I find out when/where she died? If she died in 1853, it is 2 years after this census and she would have been 13 years old. So far, I cannot find her on England death records I have available to me on Ancestry World. Thank you. Elaine Sharp California USA

Elaine, I can add the following to what you have told us. This is the result of a few quick searches online, you will have to decide how much is relevant or needs further verification. 1. In the British Library search Ellen is recorded as born Delhi (illeg) 1840, bapt Meerut 1845. Father is William, Major 69th NI. 2. Fibis list a will for William Brown 1846. No further details. 3. FreeBMD lists ten Ellen Brown deaths for June 1853 (i.e. the quarter ending 30th June). In particular one at Stow-on-the Wold which is not so far from Bristol. Unfortunately the indexes for 1853 do not give any information beyond name and register page numbers. At a guess, the reason the name was crossed through was because the BMOS had no further responsibility for the child, she was effectively deleted from their records. I would get the will of William Brown. There is a chance it is the right one. I have a Bengal will in my family in which someone made provision for an illegimate daughter, if you are lucky you may find out a bit more as well. See the fibiwiki for details of access to wills. The only way to get more informations for the deaths is to order the death certificates and they come at a price, unfortunately. I speak from experience here, having wasted money in that direction in the past. HTH Simon.

Thank you all for your replies. I do have her father William Brown's will and Ellen is his illeg. daughter. I did see this death record at Stow-on-the-World and wondered if it could be her but was not sure where it was however, if it was close to where she lived in 1851 it may be a possibility and the information given on index was minimal. Guess I need a death record and if it is not her, then I could go on forever ordering death records. Something to ponder. Thank you. Elaine California USA

The other thing about death certificates is that they contain very little information! Best wishes Mark O'Sullivan On 23 Sep 2010, at 23:01, Simon Harding wrote: > Elaine, > I can add the following to what you have told us. This is the result > of > a few quick searches online, you will have to decide how much is > relevant or needs further verification. > > 1. In the British Library search Ellen is recorded as born Delhi > (illeg) > 1840, bapt Meerut 1845. Father is William, Major 69th NI. > > 2. Fibis list a will for William Brown 1846. No further details. > > 3. FreeBMD lists ten Ellen Brown deaths for June 1853 (i.e. the > quarter > ending 30th June). In particular one at Stow-on-the Wold which is > not so > far from Bristol. Unfortunately the indexes for 1853 do not give any > information beyond name and register page numbers. > > At a guess, the reason the name was crossed through was because the > BMOS > had no further responsibility for the child, she was effectively > deleted > from their records. > > I would get the will of William Brown. There is a chance it is the > right > one. I have a Bengal will in my family in which someone made provision > for an illegimate daughter, if you are lucky you may find out a bit > more > as well. See the fibiwiki for details of access to wills. > > The only way to get more informations for the deaths is to order the > death certificates and they come at a price, unfortunately. I speak > from > experience here, having wasted money in that direction in the past. > > HTH > Simon. > > > ===== India Mailing List ===== > > Families in British India Society: http://www.fibis.org > > > Archives for this list can be found at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=INDIA > and at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/INDIA > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >