Thelma If your Ernest Cramb was an Engineer he may have been a passenger on board the Atrato which sailed from New York bound for Southampton in Jul 1906. Mr Ernest Cramb Birth Date: abt 1880 Age: 26 Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States Arrival Date: Jul 1906 Port of Arrival: Southampton, England Ports of Voyage: Cartagena Ship Name: Atrato And if his middle name was Albert, he may be the subject of a probate record for 1909 CRAMB Ernest Albert of City Deep mine Johannesburg South Africa died January 1909 at Kensington Sanatorium Johannesburg Administration London 12 May to Alexander Charles Cramb electrical engineer. Effects £340 4s 3d. The 1881 census had an Ernest A Cramb, born abt 1880 at St M Penkivel Cornwall, at home with his parents William and Sarah Cramb, together with a number of siblings, including a brother Alexander C Cramb (RG11/2306/78/p5) at home at Leonie Fretwell Burra, South Australia lfretwell@bigpond.com www.fretwell.kangaweb.com.au