It's always dangerous to generalise, but ....... Presbyterian marriages were frequently held in the manse (minister's home) or some other private house. It was much more unusual for a Church of England or Roman Catholic marriage to be celebrated in private houses, as there was a need to use consecrated premises (Church, Chapel). However, there are always exceptions, and different practices may have prevailed in different times and places. Sylvia On 18 March 2015 at 08:46, Ainslie via <india@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Sue, > > In my grandparents' case they married in 1906 in a church in Bombay, but > reading through other family accounts in colonial times in NZ (where my > grandparent's moved to after his term in the BI Army in India was > completed) and in Tasmania where my other grandparents resided - and > around Australian rural regions, it was quite common for a wedding to be > held in the bride's family home and the visiting priest/minister to > officiate for the ceremony. > > Cheers > Ainslie. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Maureen wrote with respect to this marriage: The death record given by Jill below , with image, is available on findmypast (pay site}, although the transcription incorrectly says place of death Chakrata, when it was Cawnpore. The records on Ancestry are in fact the dataset from FamilySearch, which are the India Office collection. If they are in FamilySearch they will generally be be on findmypast, as both datasets have their origin in the India Office records. There only reason they won't be on findmypast, or you ca't find them on findmypast, is that some records were too fragile to film, errors such as mis-transcription etc --ooOoo-- People on the list may like to have a look at: http://www.fibis.org/british-india-records-findmypast-10-tips-searching/ This will help them understand what they might be able to do to get more out of the FindMyPast site, particularly when the search finds "0" results. Please do not accept that this means that the results are not on their site or in the original India Office Records. They may be on FindMyPast but difficult to find. In addition to the reasons that Maureen gives should be added mis-indexation and plain omission, I'm afraid. Good Hunting! Peter Bailey Chairman Families in British India Society www.fibis.org

Hi Sue, In my grandparents' case they married in 1906 in a church in Bombay, but reading through other family accounts in colonial times in NZ (where my grandparent's moved to after his term in the BI Army in India was completed) and in Tasmania where my other grandparents resided - and around Australian rural regions, it was quite common for a wedding to be held in the bride's family home and the visiting priest/minister to officiate for the ceremony. Cheers Ainslie.

Many thanks, Ed. I would be pleased to get a copy of the 1799 Civil Servants List...at your convenience. To which area was the Nabob associated with ? with good wishes, Daphne (email address: brinds@xtra.co.nz) On 17/03/2015 12:11 p.m., Ed Storey via wrote: > Several old publications talk about Col. Barrett being a special counselor > to the Nabob Omdat ul Omrah. Barrett, born in 1765 died about 1801. He > seems to have been Portuguese & was given 41 villages upon the death of the > Nabob. there are several accounts of his legal disputes that seemed to end > in his favor. His family lived at St. Thome' Madras. I can find him in > old legal publications but nowhere else. > > I am trying to learn more about him and his family. If anyone has any > advice, I would most appreciate it. I have been looking at HEIC army > records, Crown army records and HEIC servant records without success. Not > everyone calls him a Colonel. As an aside I have a copy of the 1799 Civil > Servant list as a PDF that I would be willing to send to anyone who sends me > their email addr. > > Ed of Falcon (who is, for now, Ed of Arizona) > > -----Original Message----- > From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 12:15 AM > To: INDIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [INDIA] Help please in locating details of Arthur Clark(e) > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: sylcec > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2915.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > You can find Arthur's service record on Findmypast. He attested on 28 Oct > 1864 at Chelmsford. He was 5' 9" tall with dark hair and eyes and a dark > complexion! Had some periods of desertion for which he was tried and rank > forfeited. But eventually restored/promoted to former rank and pay. Promoted > to Sergeant 1 Apr 1875; episodes of drunkenness later, He continued to > serve at least up to 1890. Discharged 30 Dec 1890. > His first service took him to Canada in 1865, back in England 1869, then > left for India 2 Nov 1876. So he could have married Ann in any of those > countries. > Children are listed, and as the eldest seems to be Emma b. 5 Nov 1878, he > probably did marry in India, but possibly in England. Have attached a page > from service record which includes movement and family summary info. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would > like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and > respond on the board. > > <br> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sue, Actual home - this was not an uncommon occurrence. Regards, David K Bridgnell -----Original Message----- From: india-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:india-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Gutheridge via Sent: 17 March 2015 11:21 To: india-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [INDIA] Explanation Please Hi All On my Great Grandparents marriage certificate is says they were married in - The House of Capt. William Adolphus Lynn - (my grandmothers brother) - Would this mean his actual home or some kind of House of Worship Many Thanks Sue ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I need help learning something of the Lancashire born groom, my great,great uncle He was last seen in the 1851 census as being at school in Dollar,Scotland, aged about 13. The bride may have been born in Farnham, Surrey,c.1838. Though his younger brother, Arthur Ross was in India at the time of the wedding working for the O&R Railway near Lucknow, and his father, Thomas, had died in Meerut five years earlier, the brothers were unaware of the others presence in India until 1876. I do not have access to Thackers Indian or Bengal Gazettes , but someone who does may be able to help me. I took a quick look at FIBIS's marriages without luck. Thanks, Nick (Canada)

Hi All On my Great Grandparents marriage certificate is says they were married in - The House of Capt. William Adolphus Lynn - (my grandmothers brother) - Would this mean his actual home or some kind of House of Worship Many Thanks Sue

Several old publications talk about Col. Barrett being a special counselor to the Nabob Omdat ul Omrah. Barrett, born in 1765 died about 1801. He seems to have been Portuguese & was given 41 villages upon the death of the Nabob. there are several accounts of his legal disputes that seemed to end in his favor. His family lived at St. Thome' Madras. I can find him in old legal publications but nowhere else. I am trying to learn more about him and his family. If anyone has any advice, I would most appreciate it. I have been looking at HEIC army records, Crown army records and HEIC servant records without success. Not everyone calls him a Colonel. As an aside I have a copy of the 1799 Civil Servant list as a PDF that I would be willing to send to anyone who sends me their email addr. Ed of Falcon (who is, for now, Ed of Arizona) -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 12:15 AM To: INDIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [INDIA] Help please in locating details of Arthur Clark(e) This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sylcec Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2915.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You can find Arthur's service record on Findmypast. He attested on 28 Oct 1864 at Chelmsford. He was 5' 9" tall with dark hair and eyes and a dark complexion! Had some periods of desertion for which he was tried and rank forfeited. But eventually restored/promoted to former rank and pay. Promoted to Sergeant 1 Apr 1875; episodes of drunkenness later, He continued to serve at least up to 1890. Discharged 30 Dec 1890. His first service took him to Canada in 1865, back in England 1869, then left for India 2 Nov 1876. So he could have married Ann in any of those countries. Children are listed, and as the eldest seems to be Emma b. 5 Nov 1878, he probably did marry in India, but possibly in England. Have attached a page from service record which includes movement and family summary info. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: michelecantwell1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2918.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Many thanks for that, it's been most helpful! I'll go check out the findmypast section too Best regards Michele Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sylcec Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2918.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: She was a twin - had a brother George William. Father, Thomas was a Sergeant in the Royal Horse Artillery. The baptism records are part of the India Office collection digitised on Findmypast. Her birth was also registered through the British Regimental Births and a certificate can be ordered through the GRO. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maureenr5 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2919.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The following website should give you background information: Chindit Chasing, Operation Longcloth 1943 http://www.chinditslongcloth1943.com/index.html I suggest you look at (and join if you want to make a post} WW2 Forums which has a category Theatres of War, with a subcategory "Burma and India" http://ww2talk.com/forums/ The creator of the website "Chindit Chasing" is a member of WW2Talk Forum. I suspect however, that you will not be able to get a definitive list of regiments in Kirkee and Poona, owing to the large number of temporary Regiments/Battalions which were created during WW2 and which are not well documented. Cheers Maureen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: catblues44 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2919/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to find out what regiments were in Kirkee & Poona between 1944 & 1946. I am particularly interested to find information in respect of a Lieutenant ( I don't know his name or regiment) who was located in Kirkee or Poona but left to join the Chindits and was presumably killed in Assam. I would be grateful for any information or even photos if possible. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: michelecantwell1 Surnames: Burridge Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2918/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi I am looking for information regarding the parents of Ellen Kate Burridge, she was born 19 Feb 1878 in Mhow, Madhya Pradesh, India... her parents were Thomas and Maria Ann, I was wondering if there was a way to find out why they were there, such as his employment? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

Wonderful post my gg mother married at 15 went on to have 13 children most of which survived to adulthood have a photo of her in later life A beautiful woman and pillar of society snobbery is a curse xx Sent from my iPhone 6 > On 14 Mar 2015, at 12:17, cathy via <india@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Hi all > > One of my relatives married in Simla at 13 1/2 following the death of her > father. She had a number of children but the first born seems to have > arrived when she was 18 years old. > > A word of warning ! A few years ago I contacted and met the great > granddaughter of this lady who was then in her 70's. We had a lovely lunch > and she presented me with a family tree that she had inherited. > I was delighted and we went on to talk about two of our family in more > detail. She was absolutely horrified by the news that Elizabeth was 13 1/2 > on her marriage to William Ball. She wouldn't hear the discussion that this > was "normal" for the time. I also mentioned that her much loved Uncle > married four times ( having been widowed three times). This also went down > like a lead balloon. This lady never answered my letters again and the much > promised family photos never arrived. > > > The lesson I have learnt .............don't say anything too controversial > until you have the photos/ letters you have been promised! I had no > intention of upsetting this lovely woman but that is obviously what I did. > > > Cathy > > N Devon > Researching > Picton Davies, Picton Clark, Cox. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all One of my relatives married in Simla at 13 1/2 following the death of her father. She had a number of children but the first born seems to have arrived when she was 18 years old. A word of warning ! A few years ago I contacted and met the great granddaughter of this lady who was then in her 70's. We had a lovely lunch and she presented me with a family tree that she had inherited. I was delighted and we went on to talk about two of our family in more detail. She was absolutely horrified by the news that Elizabeth was 13 1/2 on her marriage to William Ball. She wouldn't hear the discussion that this was "normal" for the time. I also mentioned that her much loved Uncle married four times ( having been widowed three times). This also went down like a lead balloon. This lady never answered my letters again and the much promised family photos never arrived. The lesson I have learnt .............don't say anything too controversial until you have the photos/ letters you have been promised! I had no intention of upsetting this lovely woman but that is obviously what I did. Cathy N Devon Researching Picton Davies, Picton Clark, Cox.

It was frequently that a girl married at 14 years old especially if her father was in the army. The allowance for a child stopped when that child became 14.  The boys often went into the army as cadets and the girls were married off.  My great, great, great grandmother was married shortly before her 14th birthday, but it gave her age as 14 on the marriage certificate.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: railtond Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2917.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It certainly was possible to marry at that age and even younger. My wife's great grandmother married at Calcutta at the age of 14. If you look in the records you will find earlier marriages than that. In England, until the Age of Marriage Act of 1929, boys could marry at 14 and girls at 12 provided that the marriage was capable of 'fruitful consummation'. Even if they managed to marry below that age, by subterfuge, the marriage would be valid provided that they stayed together until they had both reached the legal age. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Celia_Lacey Surnames: Coleman Classification: marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2917/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My husband's great grandmother, Mary Coleman, was baptised in 1832 and, according to the censuses, was born in 1831. However, she married in 1846 in Bangalore which would make her 15. Her father was John and was in the army and her mother was Mary. Was it possible for an English girl to marry at 15 in India at that time? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

My ggm married in Lahore, East Indies at age 13 !! This was in 1853 Warren Abbott Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <INDIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 11:53 AM Subject: [INDIA] Married at 15? > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: Celia_Lacey > Surnames: Coleman > Classification: marriage > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2917/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > My husband's great grandmother, Mary Coleman, was baptised in 1832 and, > according to the censuses, was born in 1831. However, she married in 1846 > in Bangalore which would make her 15. Her father was John and was in the > army and her mother was Mary. Was it possible for an English girl to > marry at 15 in India at that time? > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > <br> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers, I was on your list up until May this yeasr when I had to unsubscribe owing to a bowel operation for cancer. I appear to have made a full recovery so want to subscribe again, and to appeal top anyone on the list who is able to add any information to the following framework based upon info from the INDIA OFFICE, BASED ON THACKERS DIRECTORIES AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPT LISTS. 1855 Arrived in Bombay(Mumbai),India off the Sailing ship "Thomas Brassey". 25th Oct 1861, Married Amelia Virtue, aged17 years at Cawnpore( Kanpur) 1861 Surveyor of Roads,P.W.D., Cawnpore Division, Cawnpore. 1862- July 1864. Assistant Sawyer, East India Railway, Allahabad. 1865 Contractor, Cawnpore. 1867-70 Inspector of Works, Delhi Rly., Umballa, Punjab Joined Indian Public Works Department, Feb 1872 1872-3 Sub-Engineer, Rajputana(Rajasthan) State Railway, Agra. 1874-5 Sub-Engineer,P.W.D.,Jumna (Jamuna) Bridge division, Agra. 1876 Sub-Engineer, P.W.D. Indus Valley State Railway, Soojabad Division, Adamwuhan. 1877-78 Sub-Engineer, P.W.D. I.V.S. Railway Schwan Div, Lukhe 1879-80 Ditto at Sukkur. 1881 Ditto at Jacobabad. 1882 Ditto with Kandahar Sate Railway, Jhutput, Quetta. 1883 Ditto, at Sibi, Baluchistan. 1884 Ditto with Indus Valley and Kandahah State Railway, Indus Bridge Div, Sukkur. 1885-8 Ditto with Cuddapah-Nellore Southern Railway, Renigunta, South India. .Aug 1889. Revisited his hometown of Pembroke in Wales, his first return in thirty years.1890 1890 Ditto Gudur, South India where he possibly died August 1890,(No records found so far). Their six children traced as follows;- 1. Robert Lemuel, born Allahabad 9th March 1863, bap Cawnpore 24th Sept 1865 . 2.John Arthur, born Cawnpore 19th June 1865 Baptised Cawnpore.24th Sept 1865, died Dysentery, 11th A|pril 1891. 3.Virginia Lavinia born Umballa 21st Jan 1867, bap 24th May 1867, died of teething convulsions, Umballa 11th May 1869. 4. William born Umballa 16th May 1869,bap Umballa 7 July 1869. 5.Harriet Gertrude born Umballa 26th July 1870, bap Umballa12 Sept 1870. 6.Rose Florence, born Agra 15 July 1872, bap Agra 31 Aug 1872, All Benjamin's descendants in India were from Robert Lemuel a total of 15 children by two wives, and Rose Florence in married name of Gidney, 10 children. Any details anyone can add to this, would be greatly appreciated. I will also share any information which may be requested from me. Yours Sincerely, Dr. Paul A.R.Newbury