I also have DUCKWORTHS from Lancashire.. My John DUCKWORTH was a Barrack Sergeant in the HM 25th Dragoon and went to India in 1819. He married Mary VAUGHAN in that year and died in Arcot in 1852. His son from an unknown mother (at this stage) was also John DUCKWORTH b. 1808 unknown birth place but suspect Lancashire.. he married Isabella Hopkins ETCHES in 1846, he was an Apothecary in the 2nd Madras Native Infantry. They had 10 children including my great great grandmother, Dorothea Hopkins DUCKWORTH. I have seen your DUCKWORTHS but at this stage I haven't been able to make a connection. Diane On 18/07/2015, at 5:51 PM, David Railton via <india@rootsweb.com> wrote: > James DUCKWORTH was born in Lancashire in 1850 the son of Richard DUCKWORTH > and Elizabeth RUTTER. He went to India with the army and settled there > marrying Theresa EACH at Bangalore in 1874. Two of his children were Henry > and Theresa Gertrude. > > > > Does anyone know anything of this family or their descendants? > > > > David > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

James DUCKWORTH was born in Lancashire in 1850 the son of Richard DUCKWORTH and Elizabeth RUTTER. He went to India with the army and settled there marrying Theresa EACH at Bangalore in 1874. Two of his children were Henry and Theresa Gertrude. Does anyone know anything of this family or their descendants? David

Hi all, May I recommend an excellent read that is centred around the opium wars which involved the East India Company, England and China. Author is Amitav Ghosh. The work is known as The Iris Trilogy. The books are: Sea of Poppies River of Smoke Flood of Fire Someone wrote this about the 'Flood of Fire'. I couldn't put it better. "Flood of Fire is a thrillingly realised and richly populated novel, imbued with a wealth of historical detail and suffused with the magic of the place. It is a beautiful novel in it's own right , and a compelling conclusion to an epic and sweeping story - it is nothing short of a masterpiece." I can say the same for the other two books Enjoy. Len Buchanan

Hello List For those who have ancestors who came from Ireland up to 18880, the National Library of Ireland has released online images from the NLI’s collection of Catholic parish register microfilms. The registers contain records of baptisms and marriages from the majority of Catholic parishes in Ireland and Northern Ireland up to 1880. These are unindexed images, so you need to know what parishes would be applicable for your ancestor. http://registers.nli.ie/ Cheers Maureen

Dear Peter Thank you for your email. Records of British India are in the British Library in London. These include copies of ecclesiastical registers, wills, directories etc. Some of these have been microfilmed and can be ordered through local family history centres. In addition to the FIBIS website there are other places to look online for clues. It should , however, be noted that more recent records may not be online so as to respect the privacy of living persons and you may need to contact or visist archives directly. (FIBIS do, of course, offer a voluntary research service for members unable to visit London Archives). For example, there is the free website of the Latter Day Saints which hosts enhanced indexes of the British Library Church registers previously mentioned. https://familysearch.org The subscription website www.findmypast.co.uk also hosts indexes and the relating images taken from church registers as well as occupational registers, wills and India office records of the British Library. There is no charge to search the website but there is a costs if you wish to view the transcription or image. There is also a smattering of records on the British Library Family History site... http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/ The British Association for Cemeteries in British India hold a vast number of burial records and many of these are included in the free searchable database which is on their website. http://www.bacsa.org.uk/ Other online cemetery and memorial records care linked via our fibiwiki.. http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php/List_of_cemeteries There may also have been an announcement of her death in a local paper. *Is she likely to have got married in India - if so, check the above sources for a marriage?. * Hope some of these ideas help and good luck with your research Best wishes Beverly Hallam On 7 July 2015 at 05:22, Peter STRAUSS via <india@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I am seeking details, if in fact they exist, of my 2nd Great Aunt, Emily > Dudley. > > I have been "told" that she died in Gujarat, India, but I have found no > other information except for her birth in Sydney, New South Wales in June > 1861; and she is stated on her mother's death Certificate in Sydney in > October 1901 to be still living > > Are there any sources that I could research in India to try to ascertain > her > being there and dying there? > > I have checked marriages and deaths in Australia and New Zealand without > finding this lady > > > > Peter Strauss > > Melbourne > > Australia > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I am seeking details, if in fact they exist, of my 2nd Great Aunt, Emily Dudley. I have been "told" that she died in Gujarat, India, but I have found no other information except for her birth in Sydney, New South Wales in June 1861; and she is stated on her mother's death Certificate in Sydney in October 1901 to be still living Are there any sources that I could research in India to try to ascertain her being there and dying there? I have checked marriages and deaths in Australia and New Zealand without finding this lady Peter Strauss Melbourne Australia --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hello List Tony, from a regimental history, the 74th Regiment sailed for India from Cape Town on 25 November 1853, on the freightship Queen. http://www.archive.org/stream/historyofscottis02kelt#page/638/mode/2up, or http://tinyurl.com/q3scr7n Unless your man was a later draft, he would have sailed then, and it is very likely his family would have sailed in the same ship. You may be able to confirm whether John Nelson was with the the regiment in South Africa from the muster rolls at the National Archived Kew, where a personal visit, or a researcher is required. As they would have sailed on a troopship, I do not think you will find any of their names on a passenger list , either going to India, or returning to Britain. The regiment left Madras March 1964. As the daughter Margaret Renwick returned to Britain, I think it is more likely that his wife was alive at this point , and also returned. If his wife had died in India, perhaps the daughter may have been placed in an orphanage in India. Another possibility is that the wife had died in India, but Margaret Renwick was in the care of her elder sister Elizabeth, There are some images of church records for the Madras Diocese on FamilySearch, unindexed, and Bellary records may POSSIBLY be included I don't know whether they are or not) They are divided into baptisms, marriages and burials, and then subdivided by years, so you could try looking for a relevant burial. https://familysearch.org/search/collection/2174941 Cheers Maureen On 30/06/2015, at 7:03 PM, Tony Thompson via <india@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello Folks > Needing some little help.. > I am looking for the ship that Elizabeth Nelson b 1842 with her Mother to India some times between 1850 to 1856. > The information I have to date is .. Her parent is John Nelson ( we know her father name from her marriage certificate ) and Margaret ( a mystery ) they also had a son James S Nelson b 1850/1 Cork Ireland. Then John Nelson join the 74th Highlander and he came to India. The question is did his wife and 2 kids come on a separate boat or with him and the army? > I have Elizabeth Nelson marriage cert she married Joseph Harper b 1830 from the same regiment as her father. > John and Margaret had 3 more children in India, Margaret Renwick 1855 m Norman Mc Kinnon , William Henry 1857 - 1859 last child Alexander born 1858 - 1863 at Bellery India. John Nelson died in Scotland 1869 as pauper and widow. We don't know what happened to wife Margaret Nelson. > What ship did John Nelson , Margaret ( if she didnt die in India ) and daughter Margaret Renwick go on in returning to Scotland? > If anyone is able to find anything on these it be knocking down a massive brick wall! > Many thanks in Advance > Regards > Tony ThompsonAustralia

Hello Folks Needing some little help.. I am looking for the ship that Elizabeth Nelson b 1842  with her Mother to India  some times between 1850 to 1856. The information I have to date is .. Her parent is John Nelson ( we know her father name from her marriage certificate ) and Margaret  ( a mystery ) they also had a son James S Nelson b 1850/1 Cork Ireland.  Then John Nelson join the 74th Highlander and he came to India. The question is did his wife and 2 kids come on a separate boat or with him and the army?  I have Elizabeth Nelson marriage cert she married Joseph Harper b 1830 from the same regiment as her father. John and Margaret had 3 more children in India, Margaret Renwick 1855 m Norman Mc Kinnon ,  William Henry 1857 - 1859  last child Alexander born 1858 - 1863 at Bellery India. John Nelson died in Scotland 1869 as pauper and widow.  We don't know what happened to wife Margaret Nelson. What ship did John Nelson , Margaret ( if she didnt die in India ) and daughter Margaret Renwick go on in returning to Scotland? If anyone is able to find anything on these it be knocking down a massive brick wall! Many thanks in Advance Regards Tony ThompsonAustralia

Thomas Barrett worked for the Nizam, near Madras. He died about 1802. His sister Anne also lived in Madras, St Thome’ She died about 1825. He was earlier a British officer and is listed as a Colonel in some documents. There is some evidence that one or more descendants might have moved to NZ before 1900. I am trying to learn more about the lives of either. If anyone might be related, or has any clues, I would be interested in hearing from them. I have some information I can share. (ecs7fg@gmail.com) Ed of Falcon

Hi If you want Singapore records have a look at The newspapers for The Straits They have been amazing for filling in my families BMDS in That area Cathy -----Original Message----- From: india-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:india-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of india-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 29 June 2015 08:01 To: india@rootsweb.com Subject: INDIA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 111 Today's Topics: 1. marriages (Bruce & Jill) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 13:24:05 +0800 From: Bruce & Jill <jill.bruce2@bigpond.com> Subject: [INDIA] marriages To: india@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <9D94EDAD-9EED-4F22-95BD-9E094D98F3BA@bigpond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii H As India held BMD 1850-1890 could be longer but that is the time span I am looking at,records from Singapore I was wondering whether anyone could advise me where I may access the fromThankyou Jill Bruce McClenahan and Jill Erridge ------------------------------ To contact the INDIA list administrator, send an email to INDIA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the INDIA mailing list, send an email to INDIA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of INDIA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 111 **************************************

H As India held BMD 1850-1890 could be longer but that is the time span I am looking at,records from Singapore I was wondering whether anyone could advise me where I may access the fromThankyou Jill Bruce McClenahan and Jill Erridge

Col. Michael Finglas was a mercenary - the Irish adventurer known as Khoon-Khar Jung or the Falcon or Spiller of Blood a title given him by the then Nizam of Hyderabad Mahboob Ali Khan. He died 17 July 1800 aged only 37 and was late Capt. and Quarter master of HM 19th Dagoons and joined the Nizam's service when he left that Regt. The name Finglas appears as far back as 1338 and came from Westphalstown in Ireland. He was introduced into the Nizam's service as a counter poise to Raymond (Musaram). Michael had married in Dacca Louise Hessing the daughter of John Hessing a Dutch adventurer whose corps had been wiped out by Holkar at the battle of Ujjain in 1801. Sadly Michael was murdered over an auction of horses by infuriated sowars who dragged him from his palki . He is burieid in the RC cemetery in Narayanguda in Hyderabad and the archway to the entrance is erected in his memory. He was also the great grandfather of Norah Hope Finglas who married my granduncle Ossy Luschwitz. Norah's father was Capt. David Finglas who served in the Police Dept in HEH the Nizam's Dept. as Asst to the IG and died in 1939. When Aunty Norah arrived in Fremantle in the early 1950s with her *'masala pathar*' (spice grind stone), the dock workers all laughed and asked her if she brought her own tombstone with her! The Finglas family live on in Hyderabad and other parts of the world including Australia. Kind Regards Kerry > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Charles, that was very interesting. Joan As well as adventurers, criminals and runaways, a sizeable minority of the freelances in Finglass battalions, as elsewhere, were Anglo- Indians. Since Cornwallis had passed legislation banning Anglo- Indian children of British soldiers from entering the East India Companys army between 1786 and 1795, increasing numbers of the unemployed sons of Indian mothers and British soldiers too poor to send their children home sought out service with one of the Indian princes. The increasingly racist and dismissive attitude of the British to their mixed- race progeny was something that struck the French General Benot de Boigne, who had been one of the first to recruit adventurers and to train them into formidable fighting units for Scindia. Sending a newly orphaned Anglo- Indian recruit to one of his officers who was then the qiladar (fort keeper) at Agra, de Boigne observed that the boy had no introduction, but appears to have good will and inclination [and] you may try him . . . I have already sent you many of these young men, sons of European officers which cant prevent me from observing how few [British] fathers can leave anything to their [Anglo- Indian] children at their death. There are hundreds more at Calcutta who wish to enter into the service, but have no friends to recommend them and no other means to go up [to Agra from Calcutta]. 83 One rather unusual Anglo- Indian who turned up in Hyderabad around this time looking for a commission in Finglass regiment was the young William Palmer. He was the Anglo- Indian son of James Kirkpatricks opposite number in Pune, General William Palmer, by his beloved Mughal wife Begum Fyze Baksh of Delhi. As fluent in Persian and Urdu as he was in English and French, and educated in both India and England, where he had attended Woolwich Military Academy, William was equally at home in Mughal and English culture, and was able to switch from one to the other as easily as he changed from his jacket to his jama. He was also extremely intelligent, with a flair for entrepreneurial innovation that would later blossom into a banking fortune of almost unparalleled magnitude. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Having a look at this site I see they have photographed 41 gravestones in the Private Christian's Cemetery.in Ambala, Haryana. This is a free site. Marion

Hi all, May I recommend an excellent read that is centred around the opium wars between the East India Company, England and China. Author is Amitav Ghosh. The work is known as The Iris Trilogy. The books are: Sea of Poppies River of Smoke Flood of Fire Someone wrote this about the 'Flood of Fire'. I couldn't put it better. "Flood of Fire is a thrillingly realised and richly populated novel, imbued with a wealth of historical detail and suffused with the magic of the place. It is a beautiful novel in it's own right , and a compelling conclusion to an epic and sweeping story - it is nothing short of a masterpiece." I can say the same for the other two books Enjoy. Len Buchanan

Hi All If anyone goes to the BL and does research in Japanese Archives could they keep their eyes peeled for anything on Rupert Falkland Vaughan who visited Japan spreading the language of Esperanto returned to Sandakan captured by the Japanese was held in a camp near Kuching and survived would have been a fair age when captured Thanks Jill Erridge Western Australia Bruce McClenahan and Jill Erridge

Hello all. This Japan Times archive seems to be offered to institutions, not individuals, so we need to encourage our institutions to subscribe! The free trial would give us the chance to tell the institutions whether it is worth the subscription cost, if only we were in London. If anyone going to BL would care to have a quick look for my great aunt Ethel Maude Pearce for me I would be delighted. I found LOTS about her in Canadian newspapers when she was there. She was known as Maude and was a nursing sister in Japan about 1933. Search term "Nurse Pearce" often works. I understand that it’s a long shot, but I can hope. cheers, Lyn Smith near Dubbo, NSW

As well as adventurers, criminals and runaways, a sizeable minority of the freelances in Finglas’s battalions, as elsewhere, were Anglo- Indians. Since Cornwallis had passed legislation banning Anglo- Indian children of British soldiers from entering the East India Company’s army between 1786 and 1795, increasing numbers of the unemployed sons of Indian mothers and British soldiers too poor to send their children ‘home’ sought out service with one of the Indian princes. The increasingly racist and dismissive attitude of the British to their mixed- race progeny was something that struck the French General Benoît de Boigne, who had been one of the first to recruit adventurers and to train them into formidable fighting units for Scindia. Sending a newly orphaned Anglo- Indian recruit to one of his officers who was then the qiladar (fort keeper) at Agra, de Boigne observed that the boy had no introduction, but ‘appears to have good will and inclination [and] you may try him . . . I have already sent you many of these young men, sons of European officers which can’t prevent me from observing how few [British] fathers can leave anything to their [Anglo- Indian] children at their death. There are hundreds more at Calcutta who wish to enter into the service, but have no friends to recommend them and no other means to go up [to Agra from Calcutta].’ 83 One rather unusual Anglo- Indian who turned up in Hyderabad around this time looking for a commission in Finglas’s regiment was the young William Palmer. He was the Anglo- Indian son of James Kirkpatrick’s opposite number in Pune, General William Palmer, by his beloved Mughal wife Begum Fyze Baksh of Delhi. As fluent in Persian and Urdu as he was in English and French, and educated in both India and England, where he had attended Woolwich Military Academy, William was equally at home in Mughal and English culture, and was able to switch from one to the other as easily as he changed from his jacket to his jama. He was also extremely intelligent, with a flair for entrepreneurial innovation that would later blossom into a banking fortune of almost unparalleled magnitude. Sent from my iPhone 6 in Honolulu.

Hi A long shot but if anyone is in the BL and could do a search for me I would be grateful My great great grandfather DAVID PICTON DAVIES apparently went to Japan several times before he settled in India I think these papers are too early but if anyone could search on his name I would be thrilled. He was a surveyor and worked on the railways s a civil engineer. Apparently his daughter - married a Banker and lived in Japan after living in India and Singapore and was last heard from before the war in 1939. We fear she may have died in country? Sadly I do not know here Christian name other than her second name was Picton as David named all his children this way. Anyone able to search on the PICTON name ? Hopefully I will get up to London before the year's out but too late for this trial. Many thanks Cathy Picton Barber N Devon

Hello List Tom, yes , the British Library blog previously quoted (and copied below) sets out that this particular free access trial is for people attending the British Library reading rooms. The same blog advises "The Japan Times Archives allows full-text searching of issues from March 1897 to December 2013 giving access to a information on a wide variety of topics and will be of use to researchers in a broad range of disciplines". The British Library Blog article is http://britishlibrary.typepad.co.uk/asian-and-african/2015/06/japan-times-archives-online-free-trial.html or http://tinyurl.com/p2z7dq3 Cheers Maureen On 25/06/2015, at 12:34 AM, Liz & Tom Thompson <lizandtom65@btinternet.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > Have I misread this? It seems to me that the free access is only for people attending the reading rooms. The only online bit I can see is for 1999 onwards. > > Tom Thompson, > St Agnes. > > >