HI Ed, Thanks for that. I think he meant the East India Railway, and I can see from this list: http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/findhelpregion/asia/india/indiaofficerecordsfamilyhistory/occupations/railwayemployment/railway.html that he means the Railway lists mentioned there: - Bengal Central Railway Company, see L/AG/46/4/11, List of Employees 1886-96 - Calcutta and South-East Railway Company, L/AG/46/4/13 Staff appointments made from UK 1856-66. - Eastern Bengal Railway Company, L/AG/46/10/35 Staff appointments made from UK 1862-69, and lists of staff 1879-81. - East India Railway Company, L/AG/46/11/133-137 Staff appointments made from UK 1858-1925. L/AG/46/11/138-141 Half-yearly Lists of Staff 1861-1890 and 1911-22. Regards, Wendy

Liz, Fascinating story. I won't put all the details up on the List for privacy reasons. It would seem from the information you have posted and from that here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/india_wm_h_t_rsm .html that your great-grandfather could indeed have been William Henry Tilbury of the Berkshire Regiment. He and his wife Caroline (married 1920 in England) did indeed have a son in England (1922), who in turn married and had another son in England (1958). This great-grandson of WHT may also have married and had issue, but there are a number of people with the same name and I cannot tell which marriage, if any, is his - you might have to purchase a few marriage certificates from the GRO to get the right marriage and then you could see if there were any children. If you could locate this great-grandson of WHT (and there are ways of trying), I think an autosomal DNA test for both of you has a good chance of showing whether you share the same great-grandfather. No other DNA test will help you in your particular case. Of course it is not an easy thing to ask someone to undergo a DNA test, and there is no guarantee that even if you did make contact that WHT's great-grandson would want to do so. Of course if you can get a reply from Lahore then they may be able to tell you who deposited your grandmother in the Convent, enabling you to by-pass the detective work! I think that you can look up the GRO BMDs on ancestry without having a subscription, but if that is not the case then I can easily send you the details off-list. I emphasis that I am not connected to the family in any way.

Hello David, Not long ago I came across the marriage of an ancestor, Lydia Thorpe who married Thomas Dias/z 8 April 1880 at St Marys Basilica, Secunderabad and the witnesses were Mr DeSouza and Mrs Rozario. I know both those names are like Smith in Australia and I don't have any Christian names for either, but have you come across the name Dias/z or Thorpe in your family trees. Thomas was a Guard on the GIP Railway at Shahabad and both he and Lydia were living in Shahabad as shown on their marriage record. Thomas' father's name was Francis and Lydia's father's name was John. Lydia was shown as a widow on her marriage record to Thomas but shown as Thorpe, her maiden name, however her 1st marriage name was Sims/Syms. Hope to hear from you Joan in NSW Surnames from Madras, Bangalore and Kolar in my tree - period 1880-1920: Allen, Anthony, Campbell, Cooke, De Silva (D'Silva), D'Conncicao, D'Rosario (Rosario), D'Souza, Fernandez, Ford, Gilbert, Harrison, Joseph, Lansdowne, Palmer, Pereira, Rogers, Smith, Taylor, Thompson, Wheeler I would be interested to hear from anyone who has a match in their tree especially for a combination of any of these names. David Railton --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Dear list, I am trying to find our how one of my relatives got to India.  I have found a reference in IOR for my 3rd g. grandfather Robert Belchabers (b. about 1800) which lists the following: Name: Robert BELCHAMBERS Event type:Biography Biographical notes: Sgt, Bengal Army 1819-62; IOR Biographical File Would there be anymore details in the biographical record or is the information transcribed what would be included in the record at the British Library? I also have a reference that lists him as Quartermaster Sgt 67th N.I. Am I likely to find any army records for him as he was in the native infantry? Thanks Sharmain

Surname interests in Bengal (mainly Calcutta) from 1766 to mid 20th century: Barrett, Beard, Behrend, Boilard, Bonnand, Foresty, Gibson, Graham, Healy, Jewett, Knipe, Lane, Lyons, Percival, Stapleton, Thompson, Wilson, Yates. I would be interested to hear from anyone who thinks they may have a possible match especially if more than one of these names can be linked. David Railton

Dear List, Firstly, a big thank you to Noel Clark, Sylvia Murphy, Mary-Anne Gourley, Simon Harding, Ed Story and most of all to *John Windle* who sent me lots of records on the possibles for the above man. Your time and interest is so appreciated. I have only rejoined the list after a long time looking for Thomas Moore, PWI with EIR, c1830, Halifax NS. I am descended from Thomas Moore marrying Elizabeth Singh in 1889, but prior to meeting her (their first child was born in 1883, Mary Josephine, christened in Burdwan) the only record I have of him is with the EIR. They had 11 children, all of who were christened/born around the Burdwan, Chinsurah, Asansol and Karmatar districts. Sylvia Murphy has helped me on many occasions about 10 years ago with other family members, but this one has escaped me for such a long time. My dad's cousin, Warren O'Rourke (Toronto CA, now passed on), used to be a member of this list and provided me with a decent amount of information, but prior to 1882, I have no concrete evidence of how he got to India. Indeed, Sanjay Sircar, who was also on the list did indirectly help me as well. Donald Jaques, I think in the UK, all that time ago did also assisted me greatly, but I'm not sure what's happened to him. The very last thing he sent me was EIR records of Thomas Moore, which is concrete evidence that he was a PWI, from 1882 to 1890, but he couldn't access another roll of film that would have given more information. So, after looking at the two Thomas Moore's that you sent me, I can't rule them out, the times, the places all seem to fit. The only thing that doesn't fit atm is the fact that both marriages were RC, and I'm sure mine was a Methodist. I have a record from The Methodist Church in Asansol, that Thomas and Elizabeth donated an organ to that church in 1889 to Reverend Byers. All of this leads me to I think the only records prior to 1882, that will assist, and that's with the *EIR.* I looked back over my notes from Warren, and he's definite in saying that Thomas went Gold prospecting in Australia mid 1800s, then went to India - I don't know when, or if he did. Born in Halifax (possibly) CA, then Australia (where?) and then India. *If I could find out when he arrived in India/EIR appointment - possibly it might mention where he came from. * As for researching here in Australia*, *I have looked, but I don't know where, and is fruitless atm. This is my last ditch effort, I've spent a long time, but I think he has kept things pretty well hidden along the way. If anyone has access to EIR records, I would love to hear from you :) I also have a picture of him...not sure of the time frame, but someone might know from his apparel, and I also have the copy of the half information? Donald Jaques sent me re the EIR. Warm regards, Wendy, Newcastle, NSW, Australia

Hello everyone! Here's the current list of ancestors I am researching. Lots of questions with very little answers. Hopefully, there will be a connection somewhere out there... 1. BOTELHO/BOTELLHO family, Calcutta - 1700s-present.2. JACOB LUCAS, son HENRY LUCAS, ?-Calcutta - 1780-1900s.3. DIOGO MANUEL HENRIQUES, son FRANCIS XAVIER HENRIQUES,?-Calcutta - 1775-1850s.4. JAMES DORIN, ??Calcutta?, 1820s-1880s.5. FLORENCE ANDERSON, Calcutta, 1820-1850.6. MATILA CONNARS/CONNORS, Madras, 1820s.7. CHARLES GRANVILLE FERNANDES and LEONARA CONSTANCE FERRON, Calcutta, 1880-1900s.8. ROBERT FRANCIS BEATSON, Calcutta, 1845-?9. JOHN D'CRUZ/D'CRUZE, Calcutta, 1820-?10 JOHN PAUL, Calcutta, 1820s-?11. SULLIVAN LAW HYDER, UK-India, 1812-1850s.12. JOHN and JESSY ARABELLA CONSTANCE MANUEL, Calcutta, 1820s-?13. LAURENCE JOSEPH and ROSE D'SILVA, Calcutta, 1800s-?14. CHARLES MICHEL, Calcutta, 1800s.15. J. HENRY HOOK, PETER CLEMONS, JOHN TATE and JOHN ANDREW ALLAN/ALLEN, Calcutta, 1800s. These were the husbands of RITTA/RETTA HENRIQUES. 16. JOHN HEMINGWAY DORR, UK-Calcutta, 1810-1850s. Nancy Rixon Lilly

I am trying to find out about my great grandparents on my father, s mothers side. My grandmother, MARY MARGARET TILBURY , was born in India in 1908, and was raised in a convent until her marriage in Sept 1927 in Lahore , to my grandfather , HERBERT JAMES BALLANTYNE . The family have always wondered about her family of origin, and she spent her life often sad as she never met them. Members of my family have various stories, speculations and accounts , all similar, unproven, and yet conflicting. An uncle recalls a secretive culture concerning such matters and recalls overhearing the name WILLIAM HARRY TILBURY , and my recent research has discovered a MILITARY OFFICER with the same name who served in India around a credible time for him to possibly be her father. There are few other candidates, initially I thought a HENRY AUGUSTUS TILBURY, also a Military man, whose family have extensive history in INDIA , with accounts of events that seemed credible too. We do know for certain her father,s name was A " HARRY TILBURY" HE IS ACKNOWLEWDGED ON HER MARRIAGE RECORD. There is no mention of her mother, and no one seems to of been able to find a record of my grandmothers birth . I recently managed to find an elderly gentleman who knew my grandmother, I was trying to find out what the connection to the CLAYTON FAMILY that several of my uncles mentioned. The marriage record also mentioned a witness, an EK CLAYTON , and this turned out to be the gentleman whom I founds father! He was able to tell me how he knew her, his mother worked as a volunteer at the CONVENT OF JESUS AND MARY IN LAHORE , and when my grandmother was due to leave the convent as a young lady , Mrs Clayton was asked, as was the custom, if she knew anyone wanting a wife! Her husband , Edward Kenneth , knew the Ballantyne family well, he had gone to school with my grandfather, s brothers at the Bishop cotton School in LAHORE , and they were aware young Herbert was indeed seeking a wife! Consequently, my grandmother came to live in their home as a member of their family for some time whilst a match was made . Mrs Clayton took her under her wing. It was the only family she knew prior to marrying and starting her own, and we believe that when late in life she asked my youngest uncle to find her half brothers she meant the Clayton boys she had spent time with. My priority and focus in my research for some time , has been to correctly identify who her father was , as I said , there are a few , but not many possible candidates, and I had earlier focused my attention on one HENRY AUGUSTUS TILBURY , As details seemed to add up, however, contact with a descendant has meant that this now seems unlikely, but can't be completely ruled out at this stage we would like to learn as much as we can about her family and the circumstances of her relinquishment . we suspect her mother died, and her father being a Military officer (I am told that that would of been the only way the nuns took her, I her upbringing was paid for, as my elderly gentleman contact, son of the Claytons tells me that only kids of Military families went to the convent, as the nuns were quiet poor). I have written to the convent now that we know which one (only recently after finding Mr Clayton ) in the hope some records have survived, a long shot, but worth a try! We may get some clues, but I expect it is unlikely we will ever learn the name of her mother. I think it likely she was at least Anglo indian or had mainly indian heritage, and I also think it likely that Harry Tilbury would have had a wife, perhaps back in England? Whilst he was serving in India. Several lines of enquiry are being pursued ! I have recently received my results of Ancestry.com.au DNA TESTING which confirms Indian heritage. I am hoping this may also help us find out ' WHICH Harry Tilbury was my GG grandfather !! Can anyone assist further ? WE ARE CLOSER THAN EVER BEFORE ! it would mean a lot if we could accurately settle this mystery of our heritage! I also feel we owe it to my grandmother, she was often deeply distressed about not knowing her family. Kind regards, liz

Anthea - I would trust the Bishops' Transcripts from India (available on Find My Past) which state that Jessie was the daughter of Patrick Heatly, rather than a Wikipeadia article by a contributor. Just because Patick Heatly's will doesn't mention any bequests to his child/children by an Indian "bibi", doesn't mean that he wasn't their father! In fact, in those days, when the Englishman left India the children would frequent be left behind and forgotten when it came tobeing the beneficiaries of his will. For further information regarding these times in India, you cannot do better than read William Dalrymple's "White Moguls". On the other subject of your grandmother being born in India, then her mother would have been Sir George Kellner's first wife, Anne Caroline Gardener. Her family is connected to my husband's - Anne being his 1st cousin 4 x removed. Please contact me if you wish any further information on her family. Regards Ainslie Sharpe -----Original Message----- From: india-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:india-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Anthea Tillyer via Sent: Saturday, 29 August 2015 5:09 AM To: india@rootsweb.com Subject: [INDIA] A Heatly mystery Hello everyone I am hoping that one of the India-oriented genealogical experts on this list can help me with a mystery. It concerns my 4X great-grandfather or 4X grand-uncle - I don’t know which! The man I recently found out I was descended from is Suetonius Grant Heatly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suetonius_Grant_Heatly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suetonius_Grant_Heatly> At the end of the Wikipedia entry, it mentions that his daughter “Ann” married Joseph Welsh in 1793 (or so). In fact, it was his daughter JESSIE who married Joseph Heatly, which is born out by ecclesiastical and obituary records. My grandmother had the middle name WELSH from this union, as did all her ancestors on her father’s side (but none of us every thought to ask where the WELSH came from). This is a link to a picture of the “wife” of Suetonius, the woman we all believe was my 4th gg-mother http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/charles-smith-an-indian-woman-reclining-on-4750640-details.aspx?intObjectID=4750640 <http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/charles-smith-an-indian-woman-reclining-on-4750640-details.aspx?intObjectID=4750640> (the “Persian Princess” my grandmother told me about years ago, which I didn’t believe at the time). So? Where’s the mystery? Well, I recently found on Findmypast three baptismal records of children born to the Heatly brothers (Suetonius and Patrick). And Jessie is stated to be the daughter of PATRICK, not Suetonius, as is another daughter, Temperance. Jessie was baptized in 1781. Suetonius is listed only as the father of Mary. However, I know that Suetonius was also the father of Jacob Lambert Heatly and Of course, in those old baptismal records, there is no mention of a mother, partly because these baby girls were “natural” children. Suetonius died young, in India, but Patrick made millions trading opium and returned to England, marrying an Ann Carey, and living to a good old age but died purportedly childless. So now I don’t know which one I am descended from! It doesn’t really matter, I suppose, but I would rather not have opium in my background! I have read and analyzed Patrick Heatly’s will, and he doesn’t mention anybody who isn’t clearly a nephew or niece or other relative of either of his wife or himself, and I have traced all these nephews and nieces to siblings of Patrick or Ann. However, in Patrick’s will, there is one Jessie Delafield, who is noted as a niece, but it seems to be that she couldn’t be a “real” niece. Could this be my ancestor, “my” Jessie? Could both brothers have fathered daughters named Jessie? Just as a side note, another sibling of the Heatly brothers, a sister named Mary, was the mother of James Tod, author of the much-respected "Annals and Antiquities of Rajas'han; Travels in Western India”. The father of the Heatly brothers, Andrew Heatly, was a slave trader in Newport, Rhode island, (and a partner of Captain Affleck, another slave trader and ancestor of the actor, Ben Affleck) so there is not much to be proud of as a Heatly descendant. Still, I would like to know which one I am descended from and which brach I belong to. Until a year ago, I had no idea that I was connected in any way to India, and then I found out by accident that my maternal grandmother was born there. After that, I found out that her father (Sir George Welsh Kellner), grandfather, and great-grandfather, as well as all her female progenitors, had all been born there and that we are all “Eurasian”! It was a fascinating surprise. I don’t know if my mother knew about this, but she certainly never mentioned it to me. My cousins are all astonished by the revelation as well! Can anybody help with the mystery of which Heatly brother fathered Joseph Welsh’s wife, my 4X gg-mother)? Anthea Tillyer New York City (where, coincidentally, we are having an “Indian Summer”) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Surnames from Madras, Bangalore and Kolar in my tree - period 1880-1920: Allen, Anthony, Campbell, Cooke, De Silva (D'Silva), D'Conncicao, D'Rosario (Rosario), D'Souza, Fernandez, Ford, Gilbert, Harrison, Joseph, Lansdowne, Palmer, Pereira, Rogers, Smith, Taylor, Thompson, Wheeler I would be interested to hear from anyone who has a match in their tree especially for a combination of any of these names. David Railton

Nice searching John. To add some further information to what John has provided: Thomas's place of residence for the first marriage is given as Canoo Junction, Burdwan, and Anne's as Chandernagore. The alternative is that Thomas's is just Canoo Junction, and Ann's as Burdwan, Candernagore - the record can be interpreted both ways and I don't know enough about the geography to decide which is correct. Thomas's place of residence for the second marriage is again given as Canoo Junction, and Emma's as Calcutta. The second marriage took place at the Roman Catholic church of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, Dhurrumtollah. Annie Victoria Moore died on 11th July 1869 as a result of childbirth and was buried the same day at Burdwan. She is described as the wife of Thomas Moore, Contractor at Kanoo Junction. I have not found a corresponding baptism or burial for a child. I have found two children for Thomas and Emma. Mary Moore was born 5th October 1870 and baptised 9th October 1870 at Burdwan Catholic church. Place of abode was Kanoo Junction, and Thomas described as "Keeper of stores, Railw. Cpy." Robert Moore was born 19th June 1872 and baptised 2nd July 1872 at the Raneegunge and Rarnpore Roman Catholic place of worship. Place of abode was Raneegunge and Thomas was back to being a "Railway Inspector." I haven't been able to find anything else, but that doesn't mean to say there are no further records of interest. Sources: LDS FamilySearch and FindMyPast.

Hi Wendy John has shown you examples of the information available through the pay to view website Findmypast (FMP). Similar information is also available on Familysearch, https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGN8-VJR. Contact your local library who may possibly have a subscription to FMP and other pay to view sites which you should be able to access. Researching ancestors who for what ever reason were on the Indian subcontinent is possible from Australia. I suggest if you have not already done so to read the guides available via fibiwiki on the FIBIS website. http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php/Main_Page You will find a very useful Beginners Guide and in the contents a section on Railways (in India). Finding out when Thomas More left Australia may be difficult, try you state archives to see what passenger lists are available. Here in Victoria the Public Record Office (PROV) has an online database which includes /Index to Outward Passengers to Interstate, UK, NZ and Foreign Ports 1852-1923/. Information on his departure might be found in the outward shipping pages of newspapers. The National Library of Australia has developed /TROVE/ http://trove.nla.gov.au/, an ever increasing database of digitised Australian newspapers. Hope this is of help. Mary Anne Gourley Melbourne, Australia --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hello everyone I am hoping that one of the India-oriented genealogical experts on this list can help me with a mystery. It concerns my 4X great-grandfather or 4X grand-uncle - I don’t know which! The man I recently found out I was descended from is Suetonius Grant Heatly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suetonius_Grant_Heatly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suetonius_Grant_Heatly> At the end of the Wikipedia entry, it mentions that his daughter “Ann” married Joseph Welsh in 1793 (or so). In fact, it was his daughter JESSIE who married Joseph Heatly, which is born out by ecclesiastical and obituary records. My grandmother had the middle name WELSH from this union, as did all her ancestors on her father’s side (but none of us every thought to ask where the WELSH came from). This is a link to a picture of the “wife” of Suetonius, the woman we all believe was my 4th gg-mother http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/charles-smith-an-indian-woman-reclining-on-4750640-details.aspx?intObjectID=4750640 <http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/charles-smith-an-indian-woman-reclining-on-4750640-details.aspx?intObjectID=4750640> (the “Persian Princess” my grandmother told me about years ago, which I didn’t believe at the time). So? Where’s the mystery? Well, I recently found on Findmypast three baptismal records of children born to the Heatly brothers (Suetonius and Patrick). And Jessie is stated to be the daughter of PATRICK, not Suetonius, as is another daughter, Temperance. Jessie was baptized in 1781. Suetonius is listed only as the father of Mary. However, I know that Suetonius was also the father of Jacob Lambert Heatly and Of course, in those old baptismal records, there is no mention of a mother, partly because these baby girls were “natural” children. Suetonius died young, in India, but Patrick made millions trading opium and returned to England, marrying an Ann Carey, and living to a good old age but died purportedly childless. So now I don’t know which one I am descended from! It doesn’t really matter, I suppose, but I would rather not have opium in my background! I have read and analyzed Patrick Heatly’s will, and he doesn’t mention anybody who isn’t clearly a nephew or niece or other relative of either of his wife or himself, and I have traced all these nephews and nieces to siblings of Patrick or Ann. However, in Patrick’s will, there is one Jessie Delafield, who is noted as a niece, but it seems to be that she couldn’t be a “real” niece. Could this be my ancestor, “my” Jessie? Could both brothers have fathered daughters named Jessie? Just as a side note, another sibling of the Heatly brothers, a sister named Mary, was the mother of James Tod, author of the much-respected "Annals and Antiquities of Rajas'han; Travels in Western India”. The father of the Heatly brothers, Andrew Heatly, was a slave trader in Newport, Rhode island, (and a partner of Captain Affleck, another slave trader and ancestor of the actor, Ben Affleck) so there is not much to be proud of as a Heatly descendant. Still, I would like to know which one I am descended from and which brach I belong to. Until a year ago, I had no idea that I was connected in any way to India, and then I found out by accident that my maternal grandmother was born there. After that, I found out that her father (Sir George Welsh Kellner), grandfather, and great-grandfather, as well as all her female progenitors, had all been born there and that we are all “Eurasian”! It was a fascinating surprise. I don’t know if my mother knew about this, but she certainly never mentioned it to me. My cousins are all astonished by the revelation as well! Can anybody help with the mystery of which Heatly brother fathered Joseph Welsh’s wife, my 4X gg-mother)? Anthea Tillyer New York City (where, coincidentally, we are having an “Indian Summer”)

I've done a little digging and found that Canoo Junction is only a few miles from Burdwan. Alternative names are Khana (Kanoo, Khanoo, Kanu) Junction and Barddhaman respectively. Chandernagore is 40 or 50 miles away, HTH Simon. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel Clark" india@rootsweb.com To: Cc: Sent:Fri, 28 Aug 2015 20:25:38 +1000 Subject:[INDIA] Thomas Moore Nice searching John. To add some further information to what John has provided: Thomas's place of residence for the first marriage is given as Canoo Junction, Burdwan, and Anne's as Chandernagore. The alternative is that Thomas's is just Canoo Junction, and Ann's as Burdwan, Candernagore - the record can be interpreted both ways and I don't know enough about the geography to decide which is correct. Thomas's place of residence for the second marriage is again given as Canoo Junction, and Emma's as Calcutta. The second marriage took place at the Roman Catholic church of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, Dhurrumtollah. Annie Victoria Moore died on 11th July 1869 as a result of childbirth and was buried the same day at Burdwan. She is described as the wife of Thomas Moore, Contractor at Kanoo Junction. I have not found a corresponding baptism or burial for a child. I have found two children for Thomas and Emma. Mary Moore was born 5th October 1870 and baptised 9th October 1870 at Burdwan Catholic church. Place of abode was Kanoo Junction, and Thomas described as "Keeper of stores, Railw. Cpy." Robert Moore was born 19th June 1872 and baptised 2nd July 1872 at the Raneegunge and Rarnpore Roman Catholic place of worship. Place of abode was Raneegunge and Thomas was back to being a "Railway Inspector." I haven't been able to find anything else, but that doesn't mean to say there are no further records of interest. Sources: LDS FamilySearch and FindMyPast ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Noel I found the same records you mention below and have sent the entries direct to Wendy. Regards John -----Original Message----- From: Noel Clark via Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 11:25 AM To: INDIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [INDIA] Thomas Moore Nice searching John. To add some further information to what John has provided: Thomas's place of residence for the first marriage is given as Canoo Junction, Burdwan, and Anne's as Chandernagore. The alternative is that Thomas's is just Canoo Junction, and Ann's as Burdwan, Candernagore - the record can be interpreted both ways and I don't know enough about the geography to decide which is correct. Thomas's place of residence for the second marriage is again given as Canoo Junction, and Emma's as Calcutta. The second marriage took place at the Roman Catholic church of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, Dhurrumtollah. Annie Victoria Moore died on 11th July 1869 as a result of childbirth and was buried the same day at Burdwan. She is described as the wife of Thomas Moore, Contractor at Kanoo Junction. I have not found a corresponding baptism or burial for a child. I have found two children for Thomas and Emma. Mary Moore was born 5th October 1870 and baptised 9th October 1870 at Burdwan Catholic church. Place of abode was Kanoo Junction, and Thomas described as "Keeper of stores, Railw. Cpy." Robert Moore was born 19th June 1872 and baptised 2nd July 1872 at the Raneegunge and Rarnpore Roman Catholic place of worship. Place of abode was Raneegunge and Thomas was back to being a "Railway Inspector." I haven't been able to find anything else, but that doesn't mean to say there are no further records of interest. Sources: LDS FamilySearch and FindMyPast. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We in the UK have a holiday on Monday so this weekend is classed as bank holiday weekend. Ancestry are allowing free access to all UK records they have. Cheryl Sent from Windows Mail

Dear List, I'm looking for records on my ggf Thomas Moore b Nova Scotia c1830, who supposedly went to India from Australia sometime mid 1800s and was a Permanent Way Inspector with the EIR. A relative of mine has information that he was there after 1882, but nothing before, and we don't know how he got there. Was there also records here? of sending people to India? Are the records held in the India Office? ...as I'm in Australia and don't have access. If any person can assist I'd be grateful. I've been looking for this man for 20 years +. Wendy in Australia

Hi Wendy, This may not be him or you may already have these records but hope they match. His profession on both marriage certificates was inspector EIR. Regards John First name(s) Thomas Last name Moore Marriage year 1866 Marriage date 29 Nov 1866 Spouse's first name Anne Victoria Spouse's last name Garramcole Place Chinsurah Presidency Bengal Bride's age 18 Groom's father's first name Thomas Groom's father's last name Moore Bride's father's first name Peter Joseph Bride's father's last name Garramcole Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948 Archive reference N-1-118 Folio number 100 Entry number - Record set British India Office marriages First name(s) Thomas Last name Moore Marriage year 1869 Marriage date 9 Nov 1869 Spouse's first name Emma Spouse's last name Camin Place Calcutta Presidency Bengal Groom's age 35 Bride's age 15 Groom's father's first name Thomas Groom's father's last name Moore Bride's father's first name Hippolyte Bride's father's last name Camin Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bengal, : 1713-1948 Archive reference N-1-130 Folio number 295 Entry number - Record set British India Office marriages -----Original Message----- From: Wendy via Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:58 AM To: india@rootsweb.com Subject: [INDIA] (Australia and) East India Railway Records Dear List, I'm looking for records on my ggf Thomas Moore b Nova Scotia c1830, who supposedly went to India from Australia sometime mid 1800s and was a Permanent Way Inspector with the EIR. A relative of mine has information that he was there after 1882, but nothing before, and we don't know how he got there. Was there also records here? of sending people to India? Are the records held in the India Office? ...as I'm in Australia and don't have access. If any person can assist I'd be grateful. I've been looking for this man for 20 years +. Wendy in Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mark: The Indian civil Service - ICS - was the top service in India. Its members were recited from the famous public schools in England; they had to pass tough entry exams; hey were looked upon with awe in India and referred to colloquially as "the heaven born"! If your grandfather was a member of the ICS, his records should be available. They were the civilian rulers in India - judges, - tax collectors - etc and had a lot of authority. Moira Breen On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Mark Dimberline via <india@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Would anyone have information on the role of the civil service sent to > Mesopotamia WW1? I am specifically looking for my Grandfather's civil > service records in Madras and believe he may have been sent to Mesopotamia > in that capacity. He later transferred to the Forestry & Telegraph > Departments in the mid to late 1900s. Alternatively, if anyone can provide > the specific B/L catalogue reference would be of great help also. His name > was JAMES GERALD HALL, father's name JAMES EDWARD HALL. Any advice & help > appreciated. > > > > Cheers > > Linda > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am replying to the note about British civil servants in the 1870 to 1920 time frame. There were books published called Foreign Office List and Colonial Office List that have many such people in them. I just checked on Google Books and there is an edition for 1881. There are also similar titles listed (such as Dominion Office...) so look around. Hathi Trust is another source. no doubt, the BL, has some of these available. For me, it is a long drive. Ed of Falcon -----Original Message----- From: Mark Dimberline via Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 2:23 PM To: INDIA@rootsweb.com Subject: [INDIA] MESOPOTAMIA - ROLE OF MADRAS CIVIL SERVICE Would anyone have information on the role of the civil service sent to Mesopotamia WW1? I am specifically looking for my Grandfather's civil service records in Madras and believe he may have been sent to Mesopotamia in that capacity. He later transferred to the Forestry & Telegraph Departments in the mid to late 1900s. Alternatively, if anyone can provide the specific B/L catalogue reference would be of great help also. His name was JAMES GERALD HALL, father's name JAMES EDWARD HALL. Any advice & help appreciated. Cheers Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message