Hello List Jonathon said: Would anyone know if there is any way of contacting any volunteers or officials of this church? I'm trying to obtain information re: the BMD registers that I'm hoping will be held in the church. The FIBIS Fibiwiki page Churches in North India http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Churches_in_North_India says "Note that in many cases, the original pre-Independence records are kept in the Diocesan office itself. If you wish to view original old records while in India, then the Diocesan Office itself is your most likely source". Through the Fibiwiki page there is a link which gives the contact details for the Diocese of Mumbai http://www.cnisynod.org/tehdisc.aspx#mumbai Cheers Maureen (Sydney)

Listers In this weeks Who Do You Think You Are the local researcher unearthed personal letters and photographs of Staff Sergeant Thomas Johnstone in 1857 in Allahabad. Would it be usual for such personal documents to have been stored in the environs of Allahabad and, if so, does anyone know where in particular? If I remember, the programme made no mention as to how the researcher managed to get hold of these personal documents, Malcolm Mills

Perhaps try writing to the programmes producers? Cheers De in Aus Searching for RAYMOND, HARDIE, BURNS, WALLIS, DAVIDSON, WHITE, ALLEN, OWEN/S, LARENGO, PATHE, SCOTT, WICKENS, MAYBERY, WILKINS.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nomejayne Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2442.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Just to let you know I went down to the British Library and actually found more records for the Roman Catholic side of the family than the Church of England side! Not quite sure how that one worked out. Thanks for the additional info though. That's my next stop. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi, this might not be of any use, I found the name Botelho in this site. http://mahandisyoanata.multiply.com/photos/album/120/THE_OLD_BRITISH_CEMETERY_IN_BENCOOLEN_A_MEMORY_FOR_WEST_SUMATRA_GARRISON_ cheers pat nz > > I understand that the Roman Catholic churches in Bengal were under the > jurisdiction of the Catholic Church in Goa. Does anyone know if records > (baptisms/marriages/burials) were also copied to the Portuguese Church in > Goa? If so, are these records available in Goa or online? I believe I have > exhausted all avenues with the British Library. > > I am at the end of my rope trying to find the missing pieces to the puzzle > of my family history! I want to cover all bases before I give up > completely. So, please! any suggestions or comments would be most > appreciated. > > Thanks in advance, > Nancy Rixon Lilly > (researching RIXON, BOTELHO, D'CRUZE/DECRUZE/D'CRUZ, PAUL, > D'SILVA/DESILVA/, BEATSON, LUCAS, CONNOR et al in BENGAL) > >

Nancy - if you'd like to email me, there is a slim chance that I might be able to help. Marjorie. <margeart@eircom.net>

Hi everyone I'm a first time user of this list. Would anyone know if there is any way of contacting any volunteers or officials of this church? I'm trying to obtain information re: the BMD registers that I'm hoping will be held in the church. Regards Jonathan

Hi Everyone. I am trying (in vain) to research the FIELDSEND Family in India. My father (Donald) was born in Moradabad in 1936 His father Emanuel was born in Allahabad in 1907 His father Lewis was married to Amelia Donegan in Bengal 1890. Lewis' father was Benjamin. Not sure if Benjamin was born in India or UK, but can't find a birth for Lewis in the UK. My father always said the family was originally from Sheffield - but they're are generations born in India I have found some info on familysearch.org My father and his siblings were listed on the British India Records search but have since disappeared. Can anyone help please ? Michaela Fieldsend - Broughton

Hi List, We are wondering in anybody on the List is researching the LUDLAM Family of Meerut Bengal. John LUDLAM 1795-1847 was with the 14th (Buckinghamshire) Regiment" 1st Battalion posted firstly to Calcutta before being sent to Meerut. At the birth of his eight Children born in Meerut he is listed as John LUDLAM Staff Sergeant , Chaplin Clerk , Meerut Bengal India. He was married twice Firstly to a Mary [Surname unknown] then to Mary Ann MOREAU/MOREAN a widow of 19 years of age. Surnames associated with the family are LUDLAM STANYON MOREAU/MOREAN OBRIEN NEYNOE MUSGRAVE COCKELL ALLEN FARLEY WEST Cheers Chrissy and John Wellborne Sunny Qld Australia -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 271 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kwljb Surnames: Sheehan Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2520.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Google: beta familysearch. Click on "collections". Scroll down and click on India marriages. Cheers, Len Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DianeHansen31 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2520.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, this may be of interest to you. Groom's Name: Philip Ricketts Groom's Birth Date: 1850 Groom's Age: 27 Bride's Name: Ellen Sheehan Bride's Birth Date: 1860 Bride's Age: 17 Marriage Date: 11 Jun 1877 Marriage Place: Dagshai, Bengal, India Groom's Father's Name: William Ricketts Bride's Father's Name: John Sheehan Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M75030-9 System Origin: India-EASy Source Film Number: 510852 Collection: India Marriages, 1792-1948 with the film number you can order the film and see if there is any further information from the marriage. Regards Diane Hansen Perth, Western Australia Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/s/collection/list#page=1&countryId=1927063 The above link will take you to the beta site of the familysearch India records. Groom name Philip Ricketts Groom birth date 1850 Groom age in years 27 Bride name Ellen Sheehan Bride birth date 1860 Bride age in years 17 Marriage date 11 Jun 1877 Marriage place Dagshai, Bengal, India Father of groom name William Ricketts Father of bride name John Sheehan Batch number M75030-9 Record group India-EASy Film number 510852 Good luck

In answer to a question by Nancy, Gary wrote > I'm in the same situation but in Madras. Would these Catholic records also > be kept in Goa? > I know their are some Catholic records but these are mostly unreadable. > You may like to know that the LDS has filmed many Roman Catholic CMB Records in the Madras Presidency. These extend the records available in the India Office Records and include several Portuguese Church records in the Diocese of Madras-Mylapore; The list of relevant film numbers may be viewed in the fibiwiki on: http://www.wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=LDS_Microfilms_of_Church_registers_in_India Many of the entries for the Portuguese Mission Church at St. Thomas' Mount, near Madras, have been transcribed and feature in the FIBIS Searchable Database at www.search.fibis.org Good Hunting! Peter Bailey Chairman Families in British India Society www.fibis.org

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: richd13 Surnames: Ricketts, Sheehan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2520/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello. I've come to a dead end looking for the parents of an ancestor, Ellen Sheehan. She was born in Bengal in 1860, her father was apparently in the army there. She married Philip Ricketts, also in the army, in Bengal 1877 (found on FIBIS website). They settled in Worcester in later life. Family stories say she may have been brought up or educated in a convent in India? Does anyone have any ideas how I can trace her parents? Could I get hold of a marriage certificate for someone married in India, and would it have information on her parents? Thank you! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

  Avril xx --- On Tue, 17/8/10, AVRIL ANDERSON <avrilanderson@btinternet.com> wrote: From: AVRIL ANDERSON <avrilanderson@btinternet.com> Subject: Help please To: "INDIA LIST" <indai-l@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, 17 August, 2010, 22:59 Swaries family   I want to write to the administrator general in calcutta to see if he knows why he was asked to manage my Greatgrandfathers estate   Both his and my greatgrandmothers death is a mystery and he may hold a clue The accounts begin on 9 April 1901   I assume both GGparents died together   Avril

As Ian Kerr was teaching History at the University of Manitoba when he wrote "Building the Railways of the Raj 1850-1900", it is perhaps ironic that you cannot obtain a copy in Canada! :-( Copies are readily available in the UK via the public Inter-Library loan system and they also appear on Abebooks.com and eBay. Don't spend $40+ - I got my personal hardback copy last October for £10.48 inclusive of p&p. Kerr is also the author of "Engines of Change : the railroads that made India" (Westport, CT: Praeger, 2007) and the compiler of "Railways of Modern India" (Delhi: OUP, 2001) and "27 Down : new departures in Indian railway studies) (Delhi: Orient Longman, 2007). All are excellent but pricey - if you are prepared to be patient, then you will be able to make useful savings. Be aware that there is not much genealogical information but Kerr writes well about his subject and includes lots of detail to help understand the whys and wherefores. There is an added bonus about being published in India in that a scan of BTROTR appears in Google Books. Here in the UK we can only get a snippet view but in Canada you may be able to get the full caboodle - it is worth trying. I mention this because I searched Google Books for "Lee Watson Aiton railway contractor" and got a hit on p57 of BTROTR. The context is that of the building of the Great Indian Peninsula Railway (GIPR) which was accomplished in a series of large contracts, several of which resulted in the business failure of the contractors involved. "...George Wythes and Co. took over the contract [#15 for the 138 miles of line from Bhusawal to Harda] in March 1862 and eventually brought it to completion, though not without frequent complaints about their slow progress. Joseph Bray, Wythes and Jackson, Hood, Watson and Mills, Lee, Watson and Aiton, and Norris and Weller were among others who took substantial contracts with greater or lesser degrees of success." Kerr has a reference to this - "Herapath's Railway Journal", 26 April 1862, p438. If you have searched Google Books on the "Lee...contractor" then one of the hits will be for PROGRESS REPORT OF FOREST ADMINISTRATION IN THE CENTRAL PROVINCES 1863-64 By CAPTAIN G. F. PEARSON. Double click on the hit and then search within this book for "Whittaker". I got three hits - pp24, 68 and 102 - describing the work of "Mr Whittaker" in cutting down some 30,000 teak trees and supplying 25,000 sleepers to the Nagpur branch of the GIPR. As I noted other Forestry Reports, you may well find further references elsewhere - I think this is what they call a result! Hugh Wilding

Sorry Harsh... On 17 August 2010 19:55, Vanya Orr <orrvanya@gmail.com> wrote: > Here is a little something about P.Orr and sons in Mount Road... I will > root around & see if I can find anything about Pophams, David.. meanwhile > this is a small flavour of things as they were... warm greetings, Vanya Orr > > it was a tradition at P.Orr's that there would always have to be a Director > on the premises during working hours right round the year! This ensured that > Madras Society shopping here was always served by someone almost on that > society - and not by a salesman, no matter the latter's immaculate white > suit, just the right tie, shoes that shone and impeccable manners. From > owner-directors' hands, P.Orr's passed into the Amalgamations Group and > then, in 1967, Anantharamakrishnan sold the business to his friend Karumuthu > Thiaigaraja Chettiar, in whose family the business remains, but with the > property strongly disputed even after recent court rulings. > > Chisholm's 60 feet by 30 showroom that was the chief attraction of P.Orr's > building in its heyday was a veritable Victorian wonderland of ornate > chandeliers, floors with shining tiles, richly embellished walls that were > an "art gallery" of the coats of arms and heraldry of British and Indian > royalty and nobility, and, above all, scores of ornamental showcases, with > their glass gleaming and their rosewood and teak polished almost every day. > And in the showcases, themselves works of art, were the riches of P.Orr's, > ranging from watches to silverware, from precious stones to jewellery. > > There also used to be renowned Diamond Table, the display of rubies and > jade that the Rangoon branch regularly supplied, and case after case of > watches, chronometers and silverware. Today, no longer can you see here the > Golconda or the 68-carat Guntakkal Diamond, nor displays of silver and gold > table service or trophies. > > Today, it's back to roots - and that's watches. Behind it all there also > survives what used to be a fascinating horolgical workshop, a maze on > different levels, with hundreds of stools and workbenches where hundreds of > employees pored over the intricacies of the innards of watches and clocks, > while at other levels jewellery was created, gold and silver engraved. > > There was a time when P.Orr's even went beyond its traditional business, in > an unconscious reflection of Peter Orr's engineering roots which, from time > to time, manifested themselves in some new creation of his - like his > mechanical process to work the city's punkahs by steam! During that short > excursion, P.Orr's assembled bicycles, served as agents for Oldsmobile, > Cadillac and Wolseley cars, sold and serviced sophisticated surveying > equipment and even had an arms and ammunition section, where arms repair was > a specialty. Over the years, and particularly after Independence, department > after department was closed down and it is with watches the firm is > primarily associated once more." > > > > > -- Vanya Orr, Project Director Earth Trust Ketty Post Nilgiris, Tamilnadu, India mob.: +919787749943 office: +914232517036 www.earthtrustnilgiris.org

Listers Are their any Madras newspaper archives available online or at the British Library for around 1912? Thanks Gary

Hi Listers, does anybody have any info on the railway, especially the railway hospital at Secunderabad in the late 1800s? Thanks Gary

ST JOHNS CHURCH CEMETERY TRICHINOPOLY---PL NOTE I have photographs of all the grave names. 1]Alfred Williams[assist Surgeon Madras]died 14/4/1849 aged 26 yrs 2]Albert Homerton died 26/10/1851aged 4 yrs [son of william Homerton] 3]General Michael Riddell[command southern division]died 3/11/1844 aged 50 yrs 4]George Dennis Thomas born 23/9/1888 died 26/9/1961 5]George Henry 2/12/1933 aged 54 yrs 6]Jane Margaret Dennis died 25/11/1924 aged 68 yrs 7]John Elliott[conductor ]died 19/11/1851aged500 yrs 8]Frederick Richard Gerrard born 22/8/1855 Coonoor died 30/12/1919 9]William White[key serjeant] date unclear 10]Ensign Arthur Wellesley Brabazon died 5/10/1833 aged 22 yrs Capt R Burton died 3/7/1882 aged 28 yrs 11]Harry Macfarlane died 6/7/1940 aged 70 yrs 12]Richard Adolphos D'MONTE BORN 16/12/1883 DIED 29/8/1940 14wILLIAM alexander Mackenzie died 18/2/1849 15]Jane Johnson died 2/9/1848 aged 23 yrs[daughter of William & Caroline Johnson 16]Caroline Ellen Johnson died 20/8/1855 aged 48 yrs 17]Lousia Mary Cheek[wife of Wigram A Cheek] died 17/12/1860 aged 22 yrs 18]Thomas Smith Parker[veterinary surgeon]died 28/1/1861 1st regiment Madras 19]Matilda White[wife of surgeon T White] died 6/8/1848 aged 39 yrs 20]Francis Walker died 17/4/1819 aged 19 yrs