Hello List Warren said: I have misplaced something, can any one tell me what was the Native Infantry number, in Sitapur, that mutinied in 1857, shooting the NCOs' and Officers while on parade?. My memory says that it was #41 but my memory being what it is, you know the rest of the story! It does appear to be the 41st, refer the FIBIS Fibiwiki page "Mutiny at Seetapore" http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Mutiny_at_Seetapore Cheers Maureen (Sydney)
Hello List Frances said: Has anyone come across a family member with the first name of Yorrick? I have discovered such a person who was born in India around 1797. >From my research it appears to be a very uncommon name. I'd be interested to hear from listsers as to why a father with the "sensible" name of George, whose father was Alexander, whose brothers were Charles and William, whose uncles were Francis and James and George, would name his son "Yorrick." Yorrick's mother was an Indian lady and that's about all that is known about her--other than the pet names George gave to her. The two were not married and George's father Alexander was not happy about the attachment between the two.. Would it be anything to do with Shakespeare's words "Alas, poor Yorick"? http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-quotes/alas-poor-yorick-knew-him-horatio or http://tinyurl.com/3e4v3v Cheers Maureen (Sydney)
Hello List Lynne said: Can anyone tell me anything about the 36th Regiment of Foot in India about 1863-76? I have George Garlick as a Private/Corporal/Sergeant who was in India at that time, but I do not know what this Regiment did and can find very little through Google. George's daughter was born in Lucknow (1864) so I presume he was involved in the Lucknow uprising. His son seems to have been born in Shahjeampore, West Bengal (1866).The Regiment was also known as the Herefordshire Regiment or the "Saucy" Greens. The FIBIS Fibiwki has a page "36th Regiment of Foot" http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=36th_Regiment_of_Foot There are a few mentions of where the Regiment was stationed in the FIBIS Fibiwiki page "Stations of British Troops in India" http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Stations_of_British_Troops_in_India Cheers Maureen (Sydney)
Hi Frances, Re the name Yorrick, Maybe they were Shakespeare enthusiasts - "*Hamlet:* Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio, a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy. Cheers Ainslie.
So if Yorrick is a respelling of the Danish name Jorck, which is a form of George, how outlandish would it be to speculate that when George Cumming named his son Yorrick he was naming him after himself, albeit in an indirect, almost joking way? Do you think it would have been common enough knowledge for a Writer in the EIC in the late 18th century that Yorrick was a variant of George (in addition to being a skull in Hamlet?)? Could it be that in his capacity as Writer in the Bengal Division, George Cumming had encounters with people from the Danish EIC and learned from them that their name Jorck was translated as Yorrick??? Frances
Of course, I meant without an account...time to slow down! Sorry all. Allison
It was operator error on my part - make sure you don't include the asterisk at the end of the link. They are public pages so even with an account you should be able to see them. Allison
Sorry, working now. Allison In a message dated 9/20/2010 3:49:26 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ronniebangalore@gmail.com writes: Dear Peter and All, Sharing some photographs that I took along with a friend of the old European Cemetery in Chikmagalur, Karnataka, India, now referred to as the CSI (Church of South India) Cemetery. Click on link: * http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=212121&id=562453058&l=ea6ca1dd69* Cemetery not maintained at all. Heavy grass, but not too much of brambles. Can be cleaned by cutting the grass. There doesn't seem to be any attempts to burn away the grass. cheers ronnie ===== India Mailing List ===== Families in British India Society: http://www.fibis.org Archives for this list can be found at: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=INDIA and at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/INDIA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This link does not seem to be working -I got the following message from Facebook. 'This content is currently unavailable This public photo link is invalid. It may have expired.' Allison Howes
Maureen and others, Ellen b. 1840, and William Calderwood's b. 1828 Brown mother's name was Beeba Jan (a local, I believe). He did not marry Beeba Jan. It seems he wanted to provide for her and these children in his Will written in India and he left a third of his estate to each after leaving some monies to a church in Stewarton, Scotland. It does not mention his wife who he married in Scotland in 1813 and their child. Whether he had anything in Scotland they might have inherited, I do not know. I found Ellen Brown, 11, b. in India in the 1851 England census living at 13 Frederick Place, Clifton, Gloucestershire, England. She is listed as a scholar and she was living with quite a few other people. I do have both siblings birth info and Ellen's brother, William Calderwood Brown, was an Assistant Civil Engineer at the time of his death. He married an Ellen Tapsell in 1848 and they had 3 children. I need to find her death record. Elaine
Lynne, I have looked a list of 19th.Cent. Regiments (circa 1892) and the 36th.Foot was the 2nd.Worcestershire Regt.!!!! Earlier they were also shown as the 29th.Regt of Foot. Look them up on Google as they may have a museum site.... Good Luck Peter
Hello List A recent item on the FIBIS Blog gives information about the latest National Archives podcast, called the First Afghan War by journalist and historian Jules Stewart http://blog.fibis.org/?p=284 For those interested in podcasts, the National Archives podcasts include categories family history and military history. Another podcast relevant to India is called "Sahib, the British soldier in India, 1750 - 1914" by Professor Richard Holmes , the author of a book with the same title. The links are set out in the FIBIS Fibiwiki page Podcasts http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Podcasts Cheers Maureen (Sydney)
Can anyone tell me anything about the 36th Regiment of Foot in India about 1863-76? I have George Garlick as a Private/Corporal/Sergeant who was in India at that time, but I do not know what this Regiment did and can find very little through Google. George's daughter was born in Lucknow (1864) so I presume he was involved in the Lucknow uprising. His son seems to have been born in Shahjeampore, West Bengal (1866). The Regiment was also known as the Herefordshire Regiment or the "Saucy" Greens. Thanks Lynne Simpson Canberra Australia
Hi Maureen Like Simon, I had downloaded this book some long while ago, so have checked the pagination. Curiously the pdf says there are 1265 pages in all, but the last numbered page is 469 which is the end of a list of "Administrations of Estates". Again, as noted by Simon, the book is divided into 3 parts, with pagination restarting at 1 at the beginning of each. By the way, I confess to still using XP, but was advised at the weekend that Win 7 is streets ahead of Vista. Cheers Sylvia > -----Original Message----- > From: Maureen Evers [mailto:maureen.evers@bigpond.com] > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 9:00 PM > To: india@rootsweb.com > Subject: [INDIA] Google Books problem-any suggestions? > > Hello List > > > > I have come across a few Google Books where I cannot read > online the last hundred or so pages. However, if I use the > "Plain text" function, which is a transcription, I can click > my way to later pages. > > > An example is The Bengal and Agra annual guide and > gazetteer, for 1841, where the last page I can easily access > is page 366 and if I keep clicking on the pages, up to 370.
I am trying to find the Death Certificate and/or Obituary of Temulji B. Nariman [aka Dr. Sir Temulji Bhicaji Nariman] * Born: September 3, 1848 - Navsari, India * Died: August 1940 - Bombay, India (Parsi Lying in Hospital) I think Temulji B. Nariman might have died on August 1st, 1940 but I am not sure. Also trying to found out when Temulji B. Nariman's wife died, unfortunately I only know her name as Lady Nariman. Any help would be gratefully. Thank you -Jim
I just googled the words fund holder and found there is plenty online information on this. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ABERDEEN/2005-11/1132072079 take too much space to reproduce it in an email.. Cheers Ainslie.
I found 2 entries from Bengal Military Orphan Society (this far) on the FIBIS site for: 1. Ellen Brown b. Sep 10, 1840 arrived in England April 24, 1841, fathers name: Bt Major H. Brown, the rest lists missing pages. 2. Ellen Brown b. Sep 10, 1840 arrived in England April 24, 1849, fathers name: Bt Major W. Brown, pension payable: Agents, date of discharge: May 26, 1853, Remarks: Dead (Name crossed through on original document. Questions. I believe they are the same person but first initial of father is incorrect (H) on first on? Did she die May 26, 1853 somewhere in England? Who would she have gone to England with? She was only a few months old the first time and 9 years old the second time? Why would she be going back and forth? Is this information available? So far I have not found her brother William Calderwood Brown so am I to assume he did not go to England? I know Major Brown allowed for these children in his will dated 1844, he died 1845, stating " I hereby appoint the directors and managers of the Bengal Military Orphan Fund the trustees of my aforesaid children." Thank you. Great Site!! Elaine
Maureen suggested that the name is an allusion to Shakespeare. Yes, true, and there is a second literary allusion. The other is to a character in a novel called Tristram Shandy, which is mid-18th century, and was and is considered very bizarre. Not the kind of novel that people would have lapped up. It just strikes me as odd that a Writer in the EIC would name his son Yorrick unless the kid or he were moribund or he had a mordant sense of humor or he wanted to really irritate his family back in Scotland. His daughter, by the way, has a very ordinary name: Jane. Frances PS. I found out this child's name via the EIC ships' records which are in the IOR. They are a treasure trove and the sooner they get digitized the better for folks like us. I also learned some specifics about the death of Yorrick's father on board the Anna. Apparently,his effects were sealed up in the presence of the gentlemen on board and transferred to a Danish ship. The captain, however, is not clear as to where the transfer took place and his grammar is such that I can't tell if the body was transferred as well.
Maureen, I have found that different browsers can make a difference. We had trouble with Google Chrome downloading and opening pdfs for a while, so used another browser. Bronwyn -----Original Message----- From: india-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:india-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Simon Harding Sent: Monday, 20 September 2010 1:57 AM To: india@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [INDIA] Google Books problem-any suggestions? > Has anyone else had this problem?. Has anyone any suggestions as to what I > can do? > Maureen I have problems like this on an intermittent basis. Sometimes individual books fluctuate between preview only and full view, depending on unknown factors but probably includes your country. Because of this I try to download the PDFs when I can. Of course you then lose the ability to search in them. With regard to this particular book it is actually 1263 pages long. It is in three parts and Vol. 3 is 466 pages long. I also hit a limit (p475) in what I could step through in the PDF, but found I could download the entire work without problem. I have a copy I downloaded about 18 months ago for comparison. The new version turns out to be a scan of the same original, as identified by an ex-libris stamp and personal annotations, but strangely the PDF is now 73Mb whereas it was previously 68. If you have particular items you need to look up I can extract the relevant pages and send them to you. Simon. ===== India Mailing List ===== Families in British India Society: http://www.fibis.org Archives for this list can be found at: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=INDIA and at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/INDIA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello to all, I have misplaced something, can any one tell me what was the Native Infantry number, in Sitapur, that mutinied in 1857, shooting the NCOs' and Officers while on parade?. My memory says that it was #41 but my memory being what it is, you know the rest of the story!. I will be in Jhansi next month so if I can run any errands, e mail me the details and I'll see what I can do. Warren Abbott