Does anybody have a record of the marriage of Henry Harrington (? 1803-?1843) Indigo plantar of Jessore and Julia Eliza Bridget (surname unknown) (1808-1868) ? There were three known children Hannah Julia bn 1827, Bridget bn 1830 and Eliza bn 1834. There may have been others including a Henrietta Florence Harrington bn in Calcutta 1843.

This is a good site for many reasons and the owner is to be congratulated and thanked. But, while I can't speak for anyone else, it does not list my ancestors who were born in India and are on the 1871 UK census. Colin --- On Thu, 14/10/10, Maureen Evers <maureen.evers@bigpond.com> wrote: From: Maureen Evers <maureen.evers@bigpond.com> Subject: [INDIA] FW: UK Census lists 1841-1871 of those born in India To: india@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, 14 October, 2010, 7:27 Hello List De said: This is certainly a major effort, and should be commended, but beware....not all persons are on this large list. I had previously found quite a few Wallis from my tree in the Census lists on the FIBIS site and looked for them on this site, thinking that I might have been able to add to those I had. Sadly most of the ones I already had were not there. The information for the data on the FIBIS site  advises it is for the  1881 census. So it is a different data set to the data on the spuddybike.org.uk website mentioned by Liz which is for 1841-1871 Cheers Maureen (Sydney)  ===== India Mailing List ===== Families in British India Society:   http://www.fibis.org Archives for this list can be found at: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=INDIA and at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/INDIA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you to everyone who has replied to me both on- and off-list wrt my enquires about Bengal Public Consultations and the notation against a Bengal burial index record. You will have seen the on-list replies to the first enquiry. Wrt to the burial record, the notation 'IS2/152' means 'Indian States, Volume 2, page 152.' According to the LDS Family History Library catalogue, in the series 'Ecclesiastical returns, Indian States, 1889-1950' there are three LDS films: 498603 is the Index to births and deaths 1923-1950; 527422 is Volume 1 of baptisms and deaths 1889-1950; 527423 is Volume 2 of baptisms and deaths 1889-1950. The entries from Volumes 1 and 2 have been extracted and form part of the databases to be found on the LDS 'beta' search site. Noel

This is certainly a major effort, and should be commended, but beware....not all persons are on this large list. I had previously found quite a few Wallis from my tree in the Census lists on the FIBIS site and looked for them on this site, thinking that I might have been able to add to those I had. Sadly most of the ones I already had were not there. Cheers De in Aus Searching for RAYMOND, HARDIE, BURNS, WALLIS, DAVIDSON, WHITE, ALLEN, OWEN/S, LARENGO, PATHE, SCOTT, WICKENS, MAYBERY, WILKINS.

Dear Listers I have recently found this website that lists anyone born in India or Burma who appears on the UK census returns for 1841, 1851, 1861 and 1871. A remarkable achievement to list them all. If the owner is on the India List, then I would very much like to offer my congratulations for extracting such useful information. http://spuddybike.org.uk/familyhistory/census/index.html best wishes Liz Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2010? Please go to <http://www.chater-genealogy.com/> www.chater-genealogy.com.

Hello List Joss said: My great grandparents were married at St George's Church 15 Apr 1889 and I have the details from the British Library records N/1/208 which give the information one would expect: names, ages, marital status, his profession, both places of residence, fathers' names, banns, witnesses. Would the original records give anything additional to this, for example might they mention the bride's suspected Anglo Indian origins? The impression I get, and this is based more on earlier records than 1889, is that whether racial background was recorded depended on the views of the individual minister, and could vary over time in the same church Also you need to know just what is meant by the wording used and the meaning may be specific to that church, perhaps at that time. Recently I gave some links to records from St Mary's Madras, which are based on the actual church registers. There is a footnote in for the 1780 records saying "native" of India means a person who was born in India. "They might be of European blood or mixed parentage" http://www.archive.org/stream/genealogist00unkngoog#page/n287/mode/1up or http://tinyurl.com/25mdrt7 This March 2009 archived post mentions a researcher in Agra, if Joss' friend doesn't have time to look at records in Agra. http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/india/2009-03/1237825961 The link within given for contact details seems to be for another site now, but I have a note that the contact telephone numbers were Home: 562 2480255; Cell: 9837057271 and 9837407970 Cheers Maureen (Sydney)

Joss, the original marriage registers WILL have the signatures of your great grandparents. Additional information that MAY be found:- 1) place of baptism 2) date of baptism 3) whether the bride (or groom) was Christian - if so of what kind 4) name of mother 5) dates and places of other life events 6) consanguinity I would send your friend along with her camera, she may be allowed to photograph the register. Or better still go yourself. best wishes, Mark

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maureenr5 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2540.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Peter For background information the FIBIS Fibiwiki has articles "Conductors" and "Ordnance" http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Conductors http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Ordnance Cheers Maureen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PeterHenderson67 Surnames: Warburton Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2540/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can anyone tell me what the (Indian) Ordnance Commissariat Department (OCD) did in the period around 1854 to 1863. And what duties would a Conductor & Sub-conductor employed by the OCD have undertaken? My gggrandfather, John Warburton, was given the (warrant officer) rank of Sub-conductor in 1854. He went to work with the OCD and was made a Sub-conductor of Ordnance on 7 August 1857. His posting is shown as "Arsenal". He was appointed Conductor on 16th November 1859. And was pensioned (retired) in 1863 at the age of 44. He had previously been a Sergeant in the 2nd Company, 6th Batallion of the Bengal Artillery which as I understand it was a Regiment of the East India Company. He had served in the Sutlej Campaign during the First Sikh Wars (1845-46). Any information would be much appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

My great grandparents were married at St George's Church 15 Apr 1889 and I have the details from the British Library records N/1/208 which give the information one would expect: names, ages, marital status, his profession, both places of residence, fathers' names, banns, witnesses. Would the original records give anything additional to this, for example might they mention the bride's suspected Anglo Indian origins? I ask because a friend is having a holiday in India in December. She has already very kindly agreed to take some photographs and might be prevailed upon to check the records for me, but I don't like to ask if it is not absolutely necessary as her schedule is pretty tight and I'm sure she'd much rather be admiring the Taj Mahal than rummaging around church registers! Thanks Joss Robin Volkers wrote: St George's Church ... Agra ...the diocesan offices, and the bishop's residence are very close to St Paul's Church at 4/116 Church Road, Civil Lines Agra. The bmd records are also kept here, and I found the staff extremely helpful

Tom, A quick look at the 1892 Kellys Handbook found the following folk....who may or not be the ones you discovered! Peter D Rogers, Suffolk UK. ------------------------------------------------------------------- > West Briton & Cornwall Advertiser - 13 February 1852 > Births > At Hoosheearpore, in the Jullunder Doab, on the 1st of November, last, the > wife of Lieut. ALBERT H. BAMFIELD, Adjutant of the 7th Irregular Cavalry, > a > son. BAMFIELD, Maj-Gen. Albert Hy. Served in Punjab Campaign 1848-9. With Expyd.force against Boree Afreedes in Kohat Hills 1853. Maj-Gen B.S.C from 1889. --------------------------------------------------- Death - Thompson THOMPSON. Naturally with your name there was not a match...been there etc.....Pity that we do not have her maiden name as she appears to be a local. > At Bombay, on the 9th of January, ELIZA, wife of Lieut. EDWARD THOMPSON, > 8th > Native Infantry, and late of Penzance, aged 26 years. ------------------------------------------------------- Death - Bull West Briton & Cornwall Advertiser - 20 February 1852 > Deaths > At Wuzeerabad, in the Punjaub, on the 22nd of December last, BESSIE, wife > of > lieut. MARSHALL V. BULL, of H. M. 10th Foot. Her many amiable and > estimable > qualities had procured her the love of both her relatives and friends. > She > was within three weeks of completing her twenty-first year, and has left > an > infant and a devoted husband to lament their irreparable loss. BULL, Marshall Valantine. Col. 2nd. son of J.Bull, Marlborough House, Falmouth(D.1851.) Born 1823. Married 1, only dau. of F.Retallack. 2. 2nd.dau of Cpl.J.Bromhead,77th.Foot. 3. 1883 Caroline only dau. of W.Herbert Mansel, late 6th.Drag.. J.P. Cornwall, late 10th.Regt.lt-Col(Hon.Col.)1st.Cornwall R.V. from 1875. Roscarrack,Budock,Falmouth. -------------------------------------------------------

Hi All Can anyone help to look plus solve a mystery, I have a Frederick Llewellyn Aitkins also known as Llewellyn Frederick born 29th August 1915 I have him baptised at the (Wesleyan) Methodist Church what looks like Popham's Broadway Madras, on 19th September 1915 abode give as Lahore. Now the mystery is was he born in Madras or Lahore documents I have shown his place of birth as both so would like to know which is correct any help would be very much appreciated Regards Janice

The following announcement appeared in the West Briton newspaper, Truro, Cornwall, UK on 20 February 1852. I have no further information, nor any interest in the family. I purely forward it to the List in the hope that it's of use to someone. Best wishes, Tom Thompson, St Agnes, Cornwall. ---0--- West Briton & Cornwall Advertiser - 20 February 1852 Deaths At Wuzeerabad, in the Punjaub, on the 22nd of December last, BESSIE, wife of lieut. MARSHALL V. BULL, of H. M. 10th Foot. Her many amiable and estimable qualities had procured her the love of both her relatives and friends. She was within three weeks of completing her twenty-first year, and has left an infant and a devoted husband to lament their irreparable loss.

The following announcement appeared in the West Briton newspaper, Truro, Cornwall, UK on 20 February 1852. I have no further information, nor any interest in the family. I purely forward it to the List in the hope that it's of use to someone. Best wishes, Tom Thompson, St Agnes, Cornwall. ---0--- West Briton & Cornwall Advertiser - 20 February 1852 Deaths At Bombay, on the 9th of January, ELIZA, wife of Lieut. EDWARD THOMPSON, 8th Native Infantry, and late of Penzance, aged 26 years.

The following announcement appeared in the West Briton newspaper, Truro, Cornwall, UK on 13 February 1852. I have no further information, nor any interest in the family. I purely forward it to the List in the hope that it's of use to someone. Best wishes, Tom Thompson, St Agnes, Cornwall. ---0--- West Briton & Cornwall Advertiser - 13 February 1852 Births At Hoosheearpore, in the Jullunder Doab, on the 1st of November, last, the wife of Lieut. ALBERT H. BAMFIELD, Adjutant of the 7th Irregular Cavalry, a son.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: PeterHenderson67 Surnames: Warburton, Vince Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2539.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for these two very helpful responses. I have followed your instructions and found Marion Warburton's birth & christening record. And final proof that she was born in Agra! I been looking for this for 6 years!! Yes, St Georges Church looks like the most likely place for the marriage & christening. And I have found it on Google Maps! So this goes onto the agenda for our visit in March! Many Thanks. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have found an entry for my husband's ancestor in the Bengal Artillery, in the muster rolls of the Bengal Army 1777-1783. In the column which shows the means by which they entered the service instead of the name of the ship, or "Dutch Service" etc it states "Country Ship". It shows that he was from Ireland, aged 43, enlisted in London in November 1769. Would it be likely that he has transferred from the HEIC's marine service of some kind - hence "Country Ship"? Regards Ainslie (Perth, WA)

Don't forget that in some years Country Ships did work to London, as "Extra" ships. It's quite possible that new recruits fro the military could have been sent out from England on these ships when returning to India. Also note the Country Ships were crewed largely by Lascars. Simon.

Ainslie wrote: >I have found an entry for my husband's ancestor in the Bengal Artillery, in > the muster rolls of the Bengal Army 1777-1783. In the column which shows > the means by which they entered the service instead of the name of the > ship, > or "Dutch Service" etc it states "Country Ship". It shows that he was > from > Ireland, aged 43, enlisted in London in November 1769. Would it be likely > that he has transferred from the HEIC's marine service of some kind - > hence > "Country Ship"? > This ancestor almost certainly did not join the 'Country Ship' service in London. The likelihood is that he joined either the Company's Army or its Mercantile Service in London and then transferred service out in the East, eventually transferring to the Bengal Artillery. My suspicion is that the clerk who made the original entry in the Bengal Musters may have been overly pedantic whereas, in fact, the country ship may simply have brought him from another Presidency. Assuming that the surname is not too common, my suggestion is that you look in the army recruits' Embarkation Lists both to find him shortly after November 1769 and also to see the destination of that vessel. If he joined the Mercantile Service, you might find him in the Crew Lists of East Indiamen of the same period. Hope this helps Good Hunting! Peter Bailey Chairman Families in British India Society www.fibis.org

Hello List Gary said: Looking at the stamps on the Annual reports the originals are kept at the Bodlien Library. I'm also in Oxford but I don't know if its possible for the public not linked to the University can get access. The Oxford University Library catalogue, under the title "The Annual Report of the Madras Medical College" has the following entry Bodleian BOD Bookstack (IND) Madras Ka 1 Volumes: 1855/1856-1857/1858,1859/1860-1868/1869,1871/1872-1886/1887 Cheers Maureen (Sydney)