Greetings.I sent this mail once before but have as yet had no reply.Being my first time on this site I am not sure whether the mail went to a wrong address ???So here it is again. I am trying to findout whether the STEWART EA that I came across whilst searching the Boer war 1899-1902 files on 'Find my past'was the Ernest Alfred STEWART that I am searching for.All that was listed was rank-volunteer.Unit-Indian army military accounts & a list of several awarded medals giving roll & page numbers. Please can one of you kind folk point me in the right direction for further investigation. Fingers crossed once again.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: louliecsb Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2542.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Anne, A number of other listers to the main India list have also replied re De Vine with interesting information, did you receive those? Cheryl Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
I agree with Liz that there probably has been an error in transcription. The St John's Church records list Sarkies G Mackertoom aged 74 buried in Rangoon 24 April 1905. krs Nadia Nadia Wright Amassia Publishing http://www.amassia.com.au
I checked the National Archives (English one) Documentsonline http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/ for a WWI Medal Index Card (MiC) for Edward Steevens, without result. However, it may interest listers to know that MiC for eligible members of the Indian Defence Force are included. They don't include much information, but nevertheless nice to have - they rarely include a full first name, but just first and second initial. The following is quoted from TNA's information about WWI MiCs "Indian Army Medal Index Cards "DocumentsOnline holds the medal cards of over 20,000 soldiers who served in the Indian Army during WW1. The cards record the medal entitlement of soldiers who were entitled to, or made a claim for, campaign medals. * Indian Army medal cards can be found within catalogue references WO 372/25 to WO 372/29. The Army Medal Office created these cards after the war had ended, and generally they record the latest unit that the soldier served in and the last rank he held. Some of the medal cards record claims for medals that were made as late as the 1930s. The cards record a soldier's entitlement to the British War Medal and the Victory Medal. Many soldiers were also awarded one or more clasps to go with the British War Medal, and this is also recorded on the cards. The award of a clasp is indicated by a reference on the right hand side of the card, but unlike other medal cards the reference will not direct you to other records. Unlike the other medal index cards, which have been scanned 6 per page, you will only receive one medal card per download. " I was pleasantly surprised to discover a card for great-uncle Percy Soundy in this set - but indexed as P R Soundy. Although Ancestry has also digitised the MiC (and in colour, back and front of cards), they have NOT yet included the Indian Army personnel, or many other colonial forces; over all their dataset contains about half a million less cards than in the National Archives set. Cheers, Sylvia > -----Original Message----- > From: ron howe [mailto:howeron@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:26 PM > To: india@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [INDIA] FW: Anglo Indian Force > > There was an Auxiliary Force India (AFI) GOOGLE >
Dear Mark Your quote below, you should check out what the Regiment was doing in the Malabar, and you will be surprised at the action they were involved. I have just returned from North Kerala, and was tracking down some of the WW1 graves, and found an interesting history behind the soldiers deaths in 1921. This skirmish was known as the Mophala Rebellion. A good deal of information is on the net. The action was quite chivalrous more than glamorous, and their deaths horrifying. cheers ronnie " > >From the Great War Forum, No.2 Company served in garrison on the Malabar > Coast with the South Lancs (Regiment) > > So nothing very glamorous, but a mystery solved and an explanation for what > he was doing in that part of the subcontinent." > >
Dear All I have just re-joined the list after an absence of some years. For your info I have been transcribing the embarkation records of British regts to India, NSW etc as well as destinations along the way, such as the COGH. So far the records from 1800 - 1829 have been completed. The results have been posted on the FIBIS web site. The Regt, date of embarkation, ship, Officers names and numbers of troops/wives/children are listed. Referer to the FIBIS web site, but if you have problems finding your ancestor please let me know and I will try to help. (NB I am not able to do detailed research on looking up soldiers names in ships logs etc). I am now working on the records from 1830 - 1838 and hope to have this finished in a few months time. Regards Jerry Wraith
Thanks to those who replied to this message, it has been really helpful, and the following has since been found:- Thanks to the reference provided by Maureen I was able to get these details from the file at the BL:- Private in the Anglo-Indian Force, Infantry, No.II Company. His date of enlistment was 23 June 1916 and the place of enlistment Burma >From the Great War Forum, No.2 Company served in garrison on the Malabar Coast with the South Lancs (Regiment) So nothing very glamorous, but a mystery solved and an explanation for what he was doing in that part of the subcontinent. Thanks again to all, Mark
Cheryl This is interesting. I have looked on the new LDS beta site and cannot find the detailed record you refer to for Sarkies Mackertich's death 24 April 1905 Rangoon. However, I did find the reference to it on the OLD LDS site, detailed as you gave it to me below. However, my own records suggest that Sarkies G. MACKERTOOM died on the 24 April 1905 in Rangoon and not MACKERTICH. I think this is a clear indication that the record needs to be reviewed personally and reliance should not be put on the transcript of the LDS website until such time as you or I can confirm the details. MACKERTOOM and MACKERTICH are two different families. I'll put it on my list of look ups the next time I'm up in London (which won't be for a while), if its urgent I suggest you get the film out yourself and look, but as it stands you MAY have the details of the wrong person in your files. Sorry I can't be any more help. Best wishes Liz Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2010? Please go to www.chater-genealogy.com. <snip Hi Liz. Do you have any information on Sarkies Mackertich he was possibly born around 1831 the LDS have his death as 24/4/1905 Rangoon. snip>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: annebrooker Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2542.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Cheryl many thanks for that information. The odd thing is that Carlos or Charles Leslie De Vine married several times. He was a ship's surgeon and his 2nd wife was Sarah Amelia Mactetich (last quarter 1883 in London) and his 3rd wife's name was Sophia John (married in 3rd quarter 1889) on census her birthplace is either Jersey or India!) Her 2 children were born in Jersey) This is shaping up to be a good story! thanks again - Anne Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
Hi Liz. Do you have any information on Sarkies Mackertich he was possibly born around 1831 the LDS have his death as 24/4/1905 Rangoon. I have a little information but not much. I have two of his daugther's marriages Anna to Thomas Anderson and Sophia to James D'Caccia Cheryl
I have the following information. Sarah Amelia APCAR born 30th December 1843 Calcutta, baptised 2 January 1844 at the Armenian Church, Calcutta, parents: Apcar Haratoon (Hartoon = Aratoon) APCAR and Anna nee CATCHICK. See Armenian Church register No. 851. Sarah Amelia APCAR married Pericle Pandazy JOHN on 3 October 1864 at the Greek Church, Calcutta. See FIBIS entry Times of India entry 1864. John Nierses MACKERTICH born 17 April 1836, died 1 February 1881 Calcutta, married Amelia Sarah JOHN nee Apcar 27 March 1871. His father was Nierses MACKERTICH her father was Apcar Haratoon APCAR (Haratoon = Aratoon). (John Nierses MACKERTICH's grave can be found on my website). I have no details of a Sarah Amelia Mackertich marrying anyone named De Vine. Hope this helps a little. Regards Liz Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2010? Please go to www.chater-genealogy.com.
Reginald William STAPLETON married Dorothy Annie SMITH at St Paul's Asansol in 1936. Reginald was the son of Arthur Hornett STAPLETON and his wife Eliza Ann. Arthur died at Asansol in 1930. Does anyone know anything of this family? David
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: louliecsb Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2542.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Anne PS: I forgot to add another Bengal marriage. Anna APCAR -m- George Archibald BISHOP 11 Sept 1862 IOR Ref: V102 F61 Her father is named as Apcar Arratoon APCAR Cheryl Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
I am now really in a spin. I hope someone can help me unravel this problem. Emmanuel Gonsalves had three children and one of them I understand was called Joseph. Joseph had three sons called, Whittington, Cornelius and Ambrose. Cornelius had four children, Ettie, Bertie, Crawford and Mavis. Now checking the FamilySearch I found that the father of Cornelius was called Futon. I know that Cornelius, Ambrose and Whittington were brothers and Bertie, Ettie, Crawford and Mavis were Cornelius's children. What happened to Joseph? Who was Futon and who was his father? Can someone help and put me on the right track please. Joyce Munro
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: louliecsb Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2542.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Anne, I have a connection to MACKERTICH via a D'CACCIA marriage. Via the LDS (beta pilot site) There is a Bengal marriage 27 March 1871 N/1 F76 Amelia Sarah JOHN -m- John MACRERTICH (note spelling) Her father is named as Apear Aratoon APEAR (note spelling) his as Meires MACRETICH. In this case APEAR the e could well be a C and read wrongly as could the spelling above for both surnames. Also her christian names could have been swapped round. This could well fit and De Vine could be her third marriage. Worth checking to see if any witnesses are named. Cheryl Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.
There was an Auxiliary Force India (AFI) GOOGLE > >
Hello List Mark said: From web searches I can see that there was an Anglo Indian Force which took part in WWI, and some (Rawding) papers and photographs exist in the Centre of South Asian Studies at Cambridge. Does anyone have access to these records? Or know more than the very little information which comes up on the web? The book "The Anglo-Indian Force" by C.T. Robbie. Allahabad, c1919 is in the catalogue of the India Office Records at the British Library IOR/L/MIL/17/5/4318 Cheers Maureen (Sydney)
There are 56 pages of Apcar Leslie DE VINE's service papers with the AIF and they can be found by going here: http://www.naa.gov.au/ and then Name Search and entering just the surname 'De Vine' and choosing World War 1 as the Category of Records. He states that he was born in St. Helier, Jersey, and from the age given this was about 1886/1887. In the papers is a copy of his marriage certificate, where he names his father as Carlos Leslie De Vine, Doctor of Medicine. When he enlisted in 1914 he gave his mother's address as 78 Mallinson Road, Clapham Common, Surrey. If you put "Apcar Leslie De Vine" or "Carlos Leslie De Vine" into Google you will get various hits. Among them you will find his baptism in Jersey. His mother may have been Sophia John, whom Carlos married in 1889 in London. Noel
The BMDs for the Bombay Times of 1847 have just been posted to the FIBIS website. There is an entry under Deaths for the 7 July edition which has a potted biog of Gregory Apcar. Leonie Fretwell Burra, South Australia lfretwell@bigpond.com www.fretwell.kangaweb.com.au
I have a marriage at Madras in 1919 of Edward William Steevens, presumably the son of my grandfather through his first wife (as yet unidentified.) His occupation is given as Private, AIF, stationed Fort St George. I find it difficult to believe that the Australian Imperial Force would be stationed at Fort St George, and the alternative is "Anglo Indian Force" >From web searches I can see that there was an Anglo Indian Force which took part in WWI, and some (Rawding) papers and photographs exist in the Centre of South Asian Studies at Cambridge. Does anyone have access to these records? Or know more than the very little information which comes up on the web? I have found numerous mentions of "Anglo Indian force" but it is apparent from the context that these do not refer to the same military organisation. thanks in advance, Mark