Hello List John said: I have three document-copies all marked as *"Secret*": What type of documents were marked as : "Secret"? Secret may refer to Secret Department which, at the time in question, dealt with military plans and operations and all transactions with country powers. Refer my previous email http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/india/2010-06/1276919814 For more information on Officers of the Bombay Army, there is a reprint of the book "Alphabetical List of the Officers of the Bombay Army from 1760 to 1834" compiled by Dodwell and Miles, 1838, corrected to September 30, 1837 currently available. Refer the FIBIS Fibiwiki page Bombay Army <http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Bombay_Army> http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Bombay_Army Cheers Maureen (Sydney)

Hi List, I have posted several times over the years on the current dead-end to my ELLISON family line. However I'm not sure I have ever sort advice on looking further via military records...so here goes. My 4x G Grandfather James ELLISON b. 1779 d.1821, is noted as a H.C. Marine on both his marriage (Calcutta) and burial records (Ft William). I have also found information in one of the early directories which mentions James as a Master/Pilot in the HC Marine. I have however not been able to find a birth record for James in India but would love to trace this side of my family back to the UK. Can those of you with knowledge on military history advise what (if any) records might contain information about James Ellison? Either LDS Film to look through or specific MIL records in the IOR. Or if military passenger lists exist at NA in Kew?? Any advice on where else to look, that I haven't explored already would be extremely welcome. Thanks Bev Researching Family Names in India: ELLISON, ROBBINS, HINE, BLYTH, BERESFORD, MADDEN, NAVIN & REA.

Thank you so much. You always have something for me to feed on!! John On 8 November 2010 14:55, Maureen Evers <maureen.evers@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hello List > > John said: I have three document-copies all marked as *"Secret*": What > type > of documents were marked as : "Secret"? > > Secret may refer to Secret Department which, at the time in question, dealt > with military plans and operations and all transactions with country > powers. > > Refer my previous email > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/india/2010-06/1276919814 > > For more information on Officers of the Bombay Army, there is a reprint of > the book "Alphabetical List of the Officers of the Bombay Army from 1760 > to > 1834" compiled by Dodwell and Miles, 1838, corrected to September 30, 1837 > currently available. Refer the FIBIS Fibiwiki page Bombay Army > <http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Bombay_Army> > http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Bombay_Army > > Cheers > > Maureen (Sydney) > > > > ===== India Mailing List ===== > > Families in British India Society: http://www.fibis.org > > > Archives for this list can be found at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=INDIA > and at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/INDIA > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- John John A.Thomas Dr. John A.Thomas,MD,FRCPath, FAMS

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Alistair79 Surnames: GORDON Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2550/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know where I can find a back copy of The South of India Observer newspaper dated 28th July, 1858 ? The British Library, India Office records, do not hold copies and an online search on COPAC reveals that no other major institution in the UK holds copies of this newspaper either. Does anyone know of a non-UK institution holding archive copies of this newspaper ? I urgently need this particular edition for my research. Alistair London, England Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pippachilderhouse Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2546.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have now got an appt at my local centre but speaking to someone there has raised a doubt in my mind. Do the microfiles that I can order to view from the LDS contain more information or records not included on the Familysearch search? (If that makes sense?) Otherwise i can't see much point in viewing them, but the person I spoke to didn't seem to think they would contain more or different information. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The son of William Brown, with an Indian woman, was named William Calderwood Brown. After doing more research on the Brown family, I found out it was the maiden name of the father's grandmother. Elaine Sharp Sacramento CA USA

Dear Lists!! I have three document-copies all marked as *“Secret*”: from the then *Bombay Presidency Governor* dated 12 December 1778 noted in the minutes on 1st February 1779 No 2, mentioning the advances of the Grenadier Sepoys under the Command of Capt James Stewart; another an *Intelligence report from Poona* dated 25 February 1779 No:3 mentioning the death of Capt. James Stewart and a dispatch from the *Bombay Government* to the Select committee dated 27 March 1779 marked 3 May 1779 No:7 mentioning Capt. James Stewart’s skirmishes and his subsequent death on 04 Jan. 1779. What type of documents were marked as : “Secret”? There were other deaths that took place around that time [04 Jan 1779] but why was Capt. Stewart’s death particularly mentioned in a secret communication? Mention of Capt. James Stewart name has *not been* made in the following documents: 1: appointments of Officers and cadets in the Minutes of the Court of Directors of HEICo series B in the India Office Records. 2: *Alphabetical list of the officers of the Bengal and Madras armies; with the dates of their respective promotion, retirement, resignation, or death ... from ... 1760 to ... 1834 inclusive, corrected to ... 1837<http://www.archive.org/details/alphabeticallist00dodwrich> .I have not been able to access the Bombay Army Lists completely* 3: Embarkation Lists from England to India for the period 1750 – 1769 in L/MIL/9/85-86 but found no reference to James Stewart. 4: a search of Wills showed that Capt James Stewart died intestate and an administration was granted to one Patrick Crawfurd Bruce (P/416/77-78). Patrick was evidently a banker who seems to have known the Capt for some time. This is evidenced in the statements in his letters of 1776 IOR/MSS Eur Photo Eur 418 and in one dated 21 July 1776 where he refers to reimbursements of stoppages due from Capt Stewart’s battalion. I do not know if he was one of the many “slop sellers” who existed at that time and may perhaps account for the acquaintanceship. He was listed in 1806 belonging to Taplow Court, Bucks., an East India merchant in London, and a partner in Vere, Bruce & Co. This company seems to be still existent. 5: A perusal of Ecclesiastical records do not show his name, but then I do not know if when such person when killed in battle in a foreign country would have his name recorded in these records. 6: He has been mentioned as having been the ADC to the then Governor. He has also been involved in raising the Guards battalion and the Rajputana Rifles but no definite dates are given. Any thoughts on this Captain??Many thanks for your help. John Prof.Dr. John A.Thomas,

Hello List Patricia asked for John: you might ask on the List if anyone has information on St. Theresa's Church in Mahe - and whether the French made transcripts as did the English and took them home. This is a very famous church and I have very little on it. The FIBIS Fibiwiki page French http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=French has information about LDS microfilms for Mahé It also has links to the Archives Nationales d'Outre-Mer (ANOM) in the city of Aix en Provence, France, which is the Archive in France which has records of India, and to a Fibiwiki page Mahé Cheers Maureen (Sydney)

Hi Rachel, I think you need to look at records from the UK. Ancestry has the marriage in St George-in-the East in London, 1888 of Charles Henry Angell. The list of marriage banns for that year shows his bride as Elizabeth Ricketts. This marriage certificate would certainly help on your question. There is also the 1851 census, which shows Charles Henry Angell, an Anglican clergyman in Bradford Yorkshire and his wife Jane (from London), stepdaughter Emma and one month old unnamed son. 1850 BMD records show Charles Henry Angell being born in Yorkshire, who could be the unnamed son in the census. The 1861 census shows the whole family and the son is now clearly named as Charles H. and could be the husband of Hannah Mary Anne Jane which is shown on the IGI Beta. The Charles Henry Angell who married in 1888 in London fits as the son of these two. good luck, Mark

I have bumped into the above names whilst researching my great Uncle Albert Cyril Ricketts. His mother was Hannah Mary Anne Jane Ricketts, nee Cooper, formerly Ansell. Her first husband was Charles Henry Ansell. Another of their children was Charles Henry Ansell. I found a marriage entry for a Charles Henry Cooper Angell to a Daisy Levi. I presumed it was a mistranscription. However, Albert Ricketts travels to England with his wife in 1928, and gives his address in England as care of Mrs Angell. Now if this had been hand written, I would have presumed a mistranscription also, however on the ships record it is typed, and clearly says Angell. Also Daisy Levi's spinster sisters also travel to the same address but unfortunately do not give either name at the address. Naturally I have searched both names on what is available online. Is it possible that the ships record has been mistyped? Would it have been copied, at the time, from a handwritten document? Is anyone connected to either of those names and able to clarify this for me? Rachel Researching in India: Stark Ridge Mason Meredith Dobson Wilkinson Chamberlain Morley Smith Ricketts Researching in Kenya: Keith Mortimer Vincent Alexander Researching in England: Wooler Johns Tremenheere Tregonwell Baker White Sproston Fitzmaurice Researching in Australia and New Zealand: Eastman Ellis ONS # 5357 Research name TREGONWELL http://tregonwell.tribalpages.com/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thipthorp Surnames: Webbe Classification: marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2083.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is a recorded marriage between T Bailie and T Webbe in India. They stayed and brought up their family in India. T Bailie was in the army. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

>Hello List clink on the link to view the gravestone photographs at the Catholic and protestant cemetery at Hosur Road Bangalore Edmund Bourne > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=95492&l=7f78ea2a02&id=1393072370

> Hello list, please click on the facebook link to view the photographs of gravestones at St Johns Church cemetery Trichy India > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=95488&id=1393072370&l=b3e42185c6

Hello List, 6th Posting of gravestone names of Catholic & Protestant Cemetery at Hosur Road by Edmund Bourne 1]Alfred Armitt died 19/7/1888 aged 15 yrs[2nd Oxfordshire infantry ?] 2]Elizabeth Hades died 8/12/1878 aged 72 yrs 3]Margaret Greer died 10/6/1890 aged 18 yrs[sister of James Greer 2nd Batt Yorkshire Regi] 4]Gerald Andrews born 30/11/1892 died jan 1898 5]James William Hayes died 8/4/1892 aged 68 yrs [husband of Grace Hayes] 6]James Banks died 27th feb 1892 aged 20 yrs-Farrier 19th W.O. hussars 7]William Adams died 23/3/1894 aged 38 yrs[Sergeant 19th PWO Hussars] 8]George Barker died 15/3/1894[19th Hussars] 9]William Pooley died 26/3/1904 aged 26 yrs [1st Essex Regi] 10]Colonel George Frederick Bevan died 12/5/1900 11]Robert Weston Potter born 8/10/1848 died 16/3/1905 12]Henry Courpalais died 20/6/1901 aged 64 yrs[Sumpecay Estates] 13]Harriat Blonde Masrian Taylor died 4/6/1904 aged 22 yrs[wife of James D R Lissenburg daughter of Frederick & Marion Taylor 14]Agnes Mary Lee born 1/4/1857 died 2/2/1919[wife of Samuel C Lee. 15]Michael George Lavell died 11/10/1`905 aged 48 yrs 16]Christiana Erskine died 6/7/1905 aged 50+ 17]Maria Wilhelmina Thomson born jan 1840 died may 1919 18]Alfred Bourne Thomson born 29/7/1836 died 28/2/1904 19]George Forbes Meiklejohn died 25/12/1903 aged 53[Judge Court of Mysore] 20Louisa Bower Pereira died 11/12/1903 [wife of Lieu Colonel 26th Madras NI]

Hi David My experience of Baptism records in India give the mother's first name as well - which has been fantastically useful for me. I had a quick look at what is available on the net and had no luck. If you can get someone to go to the India Office they may be able to find her baptism. Rachel Re: Subject: [INDIA] Eliza Hellen RAWSTORNE Born about 1786 died 08 Jan 1857. Married 17 June 1799, Berhampore, to William INNES (1771-1850), they had seven children. In the 1851 UK census she was in Bath with her age recorded as 65 born in India, British subject. Her father was Major General Edward RAWSTORNR (1745-1801). She is my wife Brenda's 3g-grandmother.

Hi I wonder if you could help. I looked through the pictures of the gravestones, and some of them aren't that clear, and wondered if you could tell me if there was one for Thomas Bateman please Thanks _____ From: india-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:india-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of jewbourne@optusnet.com.au Sent: 07 November 2010 11:25 To: india@rootsweb.com Subject: [INDIA] Fwd:Gravestone photographs at St Johns Cemetery Trichy > Hello list, please click on the facebook link to view the photographs of gravestones at St Johns Church cemetery Trichy India > > http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=95488 <http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=95488&id=1393072370&l=b3e42185c6> &id=1393072370&l=b3e42185c6 ===== India Mailing List ===== Families in British India Society: http://www.fibis.org Archives for this list can be found at: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=INDIA and at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/INDIA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3240 - Release Date: 11/05/10

The following piece appeared in the West Briton newspaper, Truro, Cornwall, UK on 25 June 1852. I have no further information, nor any interest in the gentleman. I purely forward it to the List in the hope that it's of use to someone. Best wishes, Tom Thompson, St Agnes, Cornwall. ---0--- West Briton & Cornwall Advertiser - 25 June 1852 THE BOMBAY ARMY - We understand that LIEUT. HENRY GEORGE RAVERTY, of Penzance, has, under the sanction of the Governor in Council of Bombay, been awarded a donation of 1,000 rupees (GBP 100) from the Government of India, for having passed his examinations with much credit in four languages, namely Hindustani, Persian, Murathee, and Gunerathee. Lieut. Raverty was at the siege of Moultan, &c., and was honoured with the Pubjab medal with clasps for Moultan and Guzerat.

Hi there We also have this for Rawstorne http://www.bwrogerthorpemanor.co.uk/uploads/HISTORY%20OF%20ROGERTHORPE%20MANOR%20HOTEL.pdf By the late 1700's a Colonel Edward Rawstorne resided at Rogerthorpe Manor and his daughter, Elizabeth Jane Rawstorne has a memorial in St Anne's Chapel at Badsworth church. In the late C18 Colonel Edward Rawstorne resided with his family at Rogerthorpe Manor. It is highly likely that he spent some of his time in India because in Badsworth churchyard, just outside of the South door, stands a large pyramid-like tombstone with the following inscription : "In memory of Osmond Alexander a native from the capital of Hindustan. He departed this life on 18th July 1788. In years a stripling, in person handsome, a temper and disposition most amiable, an honest lad and a faithful servant. This stone is erected by direction of his master colonel Edward Rawstorne. In memory of his adoration and regard". In St Anne's Chapel ( once known as the Rogerthorpe Chapel ) in Badsworth church is another memorial that reads : "To the memory of Elizabeth Jane Rawstorne daughter of Col Edward Rawstorne died August 30 1788 aged 14 years". The church register gives cause of death of Osmond as "Decline" and Elizabeth as "Consumption". It also gives Osmond's age as about 14. Were they friends in India? Obviously Osmond was very highly regarded. ( In the last century, and early this, the children of the area believed that if you ran seven times around Osmond Alexander's tomb he would appear. Apparently the most anyone did was six circuits before discretion took the better part of valour. ) Cheers Jo

Hi David, I think that I have asked previously but will again just in case - We have Elizabeth Rogers who married James Woodfall around 1858 - she died at Negapatam Madras 1 Aug 1871. Is there a possibility that she may be connected with your Rogers. Thank you Irene

In message <E1PEsPo-0006rf-52@mx3.orcon.net.nz> Jo Sunbeam <jsunbeam@hyper.net.nz> wrote: > Hi there > We also have this for Rawstorne > http://www.bwrogerthorpemanor.co.uk/uploads/HISTORY%20OF%20ROGERTHORPE > %20MANOR%20HOTEL.pdf > By the late 1700's a Colonel Edward Rawstorne resided at Rogerthorpe > Manor and his daughter, Elizabeth Jane Rawstorne has a memorial in St > Anne's Chapel at Badsworth church. > In the late C18 Colonel Edward Rawstorne resided with his family at > Rogerthorpe Manor. It is highly likely that he spent some of his time > in India because in Badsworth churchyard, just outside of the South > door, stands a large pyramid-like tombstone with the following inscription : > "In memory of Osmond Alexander a native from the capital of > Hindustan. He departed this life on 18th July 1788. In years a > stripling, in person handsome, a temper and disposition most amiable, > an honest lad and a faithful servant. This stone is erected by > direction of his master colonel Edward Rawstorne. In memory of his > adoration and regard". In St Anne's Chapel ( once known as the > Rogerthorpe Chapel ) in Badsworth church is another memorial that reads : > "To the memory of Elizabeth Jane Rawstorne daughter of Col Edward > Rawstorne died August 30 1788 aged 14 years". > The church register gives cause of death of Osmond as "Decline" and > Elizabeth as "Consumption". It also gives Osmond's age as about 14. > Were they friends in India? Obviously Osmond was very highly regarded. > ( In the last century, and early this, the children of the area > believed that if you ran seven times around Osmond Alexander's tomb > he would appear. Apparently the most anyone did was six circuits > before discretion took the better part of valour. ) Thanks. I have visited Badsworth and stayed at Rogerthorpe Manor, which is now an hotel. Whilst there, I visited the church and saw Osmond's impressive memorial, only went round once though. I have transcriptions of the church registers of Badsworth and nearby parishes. -- Dave Barnett