Hello List Bev said: I have several ancestors in my India family tree who appear to descend from Irish/RC backgrounds - names (first & surname) and occupations/regiments substantiate this. However, this line of my family are scant in all of the available records - BL, LDS, FIBIS I therefore wonder whether a military expert can advise on the campaigns and movements of the 87th Royal Irish Fusiliers (Regiment of Foot)? I have a marriage in 1855, so I know that my 3xG Grandfather was in India by that time as a Sargeant in the above regiment Bev could read the following FIBIS Fibiwiki articles for avenues to explore *"87th Regiment of Foot" http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=87th_Regiment_of_Foot *"British Army" http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=British_Army. Section 4.1.2 "Service and pension records" details WO 97 records which are now available on Findmypast. These are an excellent source if an ancestor was discharged with the necessary criteria for inclusion in these records. They do not contain men who died in the Army *"Chaplains Returns" http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Chaplains_Returns Cheers Maureen (Sydney)

Bev Embarked for Calcutta 1849. A history of this regiment (to 1853) can be downloaded at http://ia700104.us.archive.org/8/items/recordofeightyse00canniala/recordofeightyse00canniala.pdf HTH Simon.

Hi List, I have several ancestors in my India family tree who appear to descend from Irish/RC backgrounds - names (first & surname) and occupations/regiments substantiate this. However, this line of my family are scant in all of the available records - BL, LDS, FIBIS I therefore wonder whether a military expert can advise on the campaigns and movements of the 87th Royal Irish Fusiliers (Regiment of Foot)? I have a marriage in 1855, so I know that my 3xG Grandfather was in India by that time as a Sargeant in the above regiment but I wonder what records I should look at to find out:- When he enlisted? Where men for this regiment were enlisted? When this regiment travelled to India What were this regiments movements earlier than 1855 Really I am just trying to find out where/what I should look at to find earlier records of this line. Thanks Bev

The following announcement appeared in the West Briton newspaper, Truro, UK on 9 July 1852. I have no further information, nor any interest in the family. I purely forward it to the List in the hope that it's of use to someone. Best wishes, Tom Thompson, St Agnes, Cornwall. ---0--- West Briton & Cornwall Advertiser - 9 July 1852 Deaths At Windsor, last week, Col. SPILLER, H.E.I.C.S.

Hello List Karl said: I am trying to locate details pertaining to an ancestor - Charles Gustav Roth of German stock. He was employed in Kashmir India with the Maharaja circa 1858. He was part of the British East India Company. The East India Company in India was transferred to the British Crown in August 1858 Kashmir was a Princely State. The impression I am under is that East India Company employees working there would probably be connected with the Army or Civil Service, perhaps the Political Department, however I have no definite knowledge about this. I looked in some online directories covering more senior members of the Civil Service and Army, for 1857,1859 and 1869 but could find No mention of the name Roth. This was using the search facility which is sometime not as accurate as it could be. I also checked the Beta Family Search site without success. Does Karl have any further information to send to the List, including why he believes Charles Gustav Roth worked for the East India Company, rather than directly for the Maharaja of Kashmir? If he did work for the East India Company/Government of India, there may be records at the British Library such as those for the Uncovenanted Civil Service, but Karl would need to have some indication about the occupation Charles Gustav Roth was in. If he worked directly for the Maharaja, I do not know of any records. Cheers Maureen (Sydney)

Hi Daphne I have the entry from the Bengal Obituary, but thank you for your kind offer. Kind Regards Olga ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email

On 12 November 2010 19:55, Penny Helliwell <penny@helliwell.com> wrote: > Hi List, > > > > Thank you so much Maureen and Noel for your information and help. I will > now > send for the films from the LDS. I didn't know that you could order them > online, that is whywe went to the centre itself. > Many Thanks again, > Penny > > google LDS family history go to Library then Services and see this:: Ordering Copies by Mail To obtain photocopies of a few pages from a book or a few frames of microfilm or microfiche, please use the appropriate Request for Photocopies form available on this site<http://www.familysearch.org/ENG/Search/RG/frameset_rhelps.asp?Page=./research/type/Form.asp&ActiveTab=Type>. Copies cost U.S.$2.00 each, with a U.S.$4.00 minimum charge. Please follow the instructions found on the form. This could be easier/ cheaper than the BL

Hi Sylvia Not actually of use to me, but I want to comment how we as family historians have cause to give thanks for Scottish ancestors because of the tradition that the wife keeps her maiden name. Eleanor in Auckland, New Zealand Sylvia Murphy wrote: > The following record was drawn to my attention yesterday. > Parish of Bo'ness, (OPR 663/4), Linlithgow, West Lothian > > Entries dated 13th April 1784 > "Mr Abraham Roebuck, supercargo in the Honble the East India Company's > Service and Jean Lidderdale had a lawful son born at Macao in China 12th, > baptized 26th May 1777 & named William. > > Mr Abraham Roebuck, supercargo in the Honble the East India Company's > Service and Jean Lidderdale had a lawful daughter born at Macao in China > 3rd, baptized 17th February 1780 & named Anne. > > N.B. The above tow names aare inserted here at the desire of the mother as > the father belongs properly to this parish, being one of the family of Dr > John Roebuck and Hannah" > > There is no further information and I have no connection with this family, > but I hope that it proves of use to someone. > > Sylvia

Alistair of London asked where he can find the South of India Observer. Judith T. Kenny, of the Department of Geography, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Wisconsin, 53201 refers to it in a 2008 article and might advise. Best wishes Mark O'Sullivan Bath

Hello ListMany, many thanks to Maureen Evers for her very prompt reply. The information contained was most interesting and now we know why the children of William and Catherine's marriage born pre 1822 were baptised at St. Dunstans, Stepney and not All Saints, Poplar.I am a member of FIBIS but was not aware of this information on the website. Also thanks to Brinds for advising me of the two books written.Best wishesSimon Bowen

Hello again List I must also thank Brinds for her prompt reply about the two books written. Best wishesSimon Bowen

Hello List, William Foster published two books in 1924 and 1926 called "The East India House - Its History and Associations" and "John Company" the latter includes a chapter and illustration on the Poplar Hospital. brinds ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Evers" <maureen.evers@bigpond.com> To: <india@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 4:36 AM Subject: [INDIA] FW: East India Company Buildings, Poplar > Hello List > Simon said: In the UK 1841 Census I have found that Catherine/Kitty was in > Poplar Hospital, as a pensioner, and that in the 1851 Census she was in > the > East India Company Buildings, Poplar as a Pensioner East Indies Company. > Can > anyone tell me what the East India Company Buildings were? It > obviously > seems that they were for widows/widowers of the EIC but I might be wrong > on > that. Also, any idea when they were built and exactly where? > > The FIBIS Fibiwiki has a page "East India Company" > http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=East_India_Company > which has a link called "Poplar High Street [London]: The Church of St > Matthias and the East India Company's Almshouses" > > Cheers > Maureen (Sydney) >

I think that GRO death certificates are disappointing, though, especially given the fee, since they contain no information about address or relations (you learn the person reporting the death, but not usually whether or what sort of relation they were). Mark O'Sullivan

Olga, I have the monumental inscription for Henry and Dorinda Cornelius from the Roman Catholic Cathedral in Calcutta from "The Bengal Obituary", together with five other Cornelius names including a long passage of information on Mr. Charles Cornelius, assistant in the Board of Trade, c. 1774. There are also a number of Davis names - if interested, let me know the initials of your Davis. Can forward if interested, brinds ----- Original Message ----- From: "olga bedford" <olga.bedford@mypostoffice.co.uk> To: <india@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 9:52 AM Subject: [INDIA] Langtry/D'Souza/Middleton/Weymss/D'Cruz >I never appear to have any luck,with my Names, but nevertheless am trying >again. > > My 3 xGr grandmother was Dorinda Doucett before she married Henry > Cornelius of the HC Marine Board in 1806. > > Whilst I have alot of names & marriages connected to her & Henry, ie, > Cornelius; Davis; Philippe; Nauzais; Freitas. there are still missing > links. > > So if anyone has the above names would appreciate hearing from you. > > Many Thanks > Olga > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > ===== India Mailing List ===== > > Families in British India Society: http://www.fibis.org > > > Archives for this list can be found at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=INDIA > and at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/INDIA > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3248 - Release Date: 11/10/10 07:34:00

Penny asks - does the British Library have actual coplies of BMD. The BL microfilms are of hand written transcriptions of original registers in churches in India. They are available to look at (no cost) and take copies of (@ 21p a print). You will need a readers pass (register for free) to use the reading rooms. The BL site gives all the deatils. Colin Rodrigues > From: penny@helliwell.com > To: INDIA@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:55:37 +0000 > Subject: [INDIA] Family Records Centre - copy of microfilm requests > > Hi List, > > > > Thank you so much Maureen and Noel for your information and help. I will now > send for the films from the LDS. I didn't know that you could order them > online, that is why > > we went to the centre itself. > > > > One more thing could anyone tell me please, does the British Library have > actual copies on microfilm of Baptisms, Marriages and Burials please? > > > > Many Thanks again, > > > > Penny > > ===== India Mailing List ===== > > Families in British India Society: http://www.fibis.org > > > Archives for this list can be found at: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=INDIA > and at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/INDIA > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to INDIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ann Chidley's request regarding the birth of 3 children in INdia, Bangalore between 1912 to 1915 shouldnt be a problem. The request should go to the Pastors of St. Mark's Church, M.G. Road, Bangalore 560001 if there are Protestants, and either St. Patrick's Church, Brigade Road, or St. Francis Xavier's Cathedral, Primrose Road, Bangalore 560005, if they are Catholics. The Churches may be able to come up with the details perhaps for a fee for their time, or any researcher also. David Barnabas of the India List may be able to guide you further if necessary. Ronnie JOhnson

My ancestor joined the 18th Hussars in 1859 and served in Bangalore.  In 1866 he transferred to the Commissariat's Dept. Secunderabad and died intestate in 1871.   His widow (also my ancestor) received one-third dues while the remainder was remitted to the War Office.  Both payments were made by the 18th Hussars.     I am keen to learn why the 18th Hussars administered the estate and not the Commissariat's Department.   Also, was the repayment to the War Office for a bond to enter India?    TIA

Hello List Simon said: In the UK 1841 Census I have found that Catherine/Kitty was in Poplar Hospital, as a pensioner, and that in the 1851 Census she was in the East India Company Buildings, Poplar as a Pensioner East Indies Company. Can anyone tell me what the East India Company Buildings were? It obviously seems that they were for widows/widowers of the EIC but I might be wrong on that. Also, any idea when they were built and exactly where? The FIBIS Fibiwiki has a page "East India Company" http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=East_India_Company which has a link called "Poplar High Street [London]: The Church of St Matthias and the East India Company's Almshouses" Cheers Maureen (Sydney)

Hello List Ann said: Seeking birth details of 3 children born Bangalore 1912 to 1915.  Have parents marriage details from familysearch beta, also mother's death in Bangalore. As they were born within the past one hundred years they will not appear in the LDS beta site, even if the original record was at the British Library. Ann should check out the British Library records or equivalent LDS Microfilms for the Madras Presidency, see the FIBIS Fibiwiki page "Using LDS Microfilms" http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Using_LDS_Microfilms Cheers Maureen (Sydney)

Hello List Penny said: One more thing could anyone tell me please, does the British Library have actual copies on microfilm of Baptisms, Marriages and Burials please? Yes, the LDS microfilms are copies of records held at the British Library, and to view these records at the British library you view microfilms. See the FIBIS Fibiwiki Page "Church records" which is part of "Birth, marriage and death records" http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Church_records http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Birth,_marriage_and_death_records Cheers Maureen (Sydney)