Dear Listers. Can anyone please help us with details re this query? Wondering if anyone on the India List has heard of Richard Barron (1798-1838), 3rd Regiment and ADC to Sir Frederick Allen. Many Thanks. PAtricia B. C. Canada

Hi Warren.....if you Google delhi durbar medal 1911, there are many hits, and it also brings up Google images, in which you can see the medals.  Cheers De in Aus Searching for RAYMOND, HARDIE, BURNS, WALLIS, DAVIDSON, WHITE, ALLEN, OWEN/S, LARENGO, PATHE, SCOTT, WICKENS, MAYBERY, WILKINS. ________________________________

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carolnortje Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2372.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for posting this reply janetree23. I posted this message for a friend of mine, who is connected to your family and she would love to hear from you direct. I believe she sent you an email, but has not heard anything back. Regards Carol Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello List Norm, Extra Ship: When requirements to ship cargo exceeded the amount of space provided by the Regular ships, the EIC would charter one or more vessels specially for one particular season's voyage, out to the east and back. These were known as the Extra Ships. In practice, however, an Extra Ship was often hired for several years in succession if the need was there and it performed well. http://www.eicships.info/help/shiprole.html from Andrea Cordani's website The voyage could be one of the voyages of the Larkins (3) 1811/2 St Helena and Bengal. Capt Thomas Dumbleton. Portsmouth 10 Mar 1812 - 19 May St Helena - 20 Sep Calcutta - 27 Nov Saugor - 16 Mar 1813 St Helena - 5 Jun Downs. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlmar_3&cid=1- 1-171&kw=Dumbleton#1-1-171 or http://tinyurl.com/aot8akm You could order a copy of the records from the British Library if you wanted more information. See the FIBIS Fibiwiki page "Ships Logs" for details of these records http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Ships%27_Logs Cheers Maureen (Sydney) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of norman archibald Sent: Wednesday, 27 February 2013 5:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [INDIA] Margaret GRANT Dear People, I was sent a copy of a passenger list that was sourced from Bengal and Calcutta Directories. It was the departure from Calcutta of a Miss Margaret GRANT in December of 1812 on a HC Extra ship captained by Thomas Dumbleton. Could anyone on the list suggest where the ship may have been going and could someone on the list advise what a HC Extra ship might be. My g.g.g.great grandmother, Margaret Matilda GRANT was born in Cooch Behar, West Bengal in 1797 and married in London. Could this be her on her way back to england as a child? Margaret`s father John Alexander GRANT was a planter. He died sometime prior to 1804, the year Margaret was christened in Cooch Behar. Norm.

I asked two people on the Find My Past stand - they both told me that the records would start to come on line in the summer. Nigel Butterfield -----Original Message----- From: Maureen Evers Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [INDIA] FW: IOR digitised records on Find My Past: update Hello List A further update: I noticed a photo on the FIBIS Face book page from the recent "Who Do You Think You Are Live" and the caption said: "... asking Find My Past when the British Library India Office Records will go online. No definite answer, but could be about three months" http://tinyurl.com/bx8vmtm Cheers Maureen (Sydney)

Dear People, I was sent a copy of a passenger list that was sourced from Bengal and Calcutta Directories. It was the departure from Calcutta of a Miss Margaret GRANT in December of 1812 on a HC Extra ship captained by Thomas Dumbleton. Could anyone on the list suggest where the ship may have been going and could someone on the list advise what a HC Extra ship might be. My g.g.g.great grandmother, Margaret Matilda GRANT was born in Cooch Behar, West Bengal in 1797 and married in London. Could this be her on her way back to england as a child? Margaret`s father John Alexander GRANT was a planter. He died sometime prior to 1804, the year Margaret was christened in Cooch Behar. Norm.

Hello List A further update: I noticed a photo on the FIBIS Face book page from the recent "Who Do You Think You Are Live" and the caption said: "... asking Find My Past when the British Library India Office Records will go online. No definite answer, but could be about three months" http://tinyurl.com/bx8vmtm Cheers Maureen (Sydney) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maureen Evers Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013 11:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [INDIA] IOR digitised records on Find My Past: update Hello List I recently asked Find My Past, on one of its blogs, when the India Office Records would become available and received the following reply "We're working on the British India records and will publish them in the coming months, starting with the ecclesiastical returns. This is as specific as we can be at the moment but we'll let you know as soon as there's more news. Thanks, Jess (findmypast.co.uk digital content manager)" Cheers Maureen (Sydney)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: theclanpeter Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2783/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Please can anyone help . On death cert for appx 1944 do they have other info like: Date of birth , maiden name, and informant? Also how can I contact the correct office! Have E mail Mumbi ( Bombay) 4 times different depts No reply. Thing my gggrandmother died there have the date but No way of checking. Thank you Arcot Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Dear listers, Would someone please describe the colour of the ribbons on the Volunteer Decoration and the Delhi Durbar Medal of 1911. Thanks very much Warren Abbott

Penni I hope I told you that you'd found the correct William Vallange. I posted the following on FIBIS: I have decided to start again to attempt to find the Indian mother of my Gt Gt Grandmother, Mary Agnes Alexander Condell. Mary Agnes was born in Bangalore, around 1827/28. She had a brother, Charles Alexander Condell, born around 1829/30. Their father, Major Joseph Alexander Condell of the HEICS, returned from India around 1834 with his two children and they are in the 1841 census living in Cheadle/Cresswell with their widowed aunt, Mary Bucknall (née Condell), a schoolmistress and sister of their father, who seemed to disown them (he did not mention them in his will and in 1836 he married a 19-yr-old in Aberdeen Scotland. The family were all devout Roman Cathollics, and Cresswell has an interesting RC history. Mary Agnes Alexander Condell, was married in St Mary's Chapel, Cresswell on 12th May 1849, to James Joseph Collins, a tailor from Chester. I do not know what happened to her brother Charles. The person I would dearly love to find is her Indian mother, who did not appear in the 1849 Cresswell marriage entry, sent to me by the present Priest of St Mary's (and two other parishes - a busy man). As a Major in the HEICS (an interpreter in the 31st Native Infantry) the father of her children must have had some record somewhere of an Indian "wife" and family although he retired when his children were very young and their mother may well have died, Any suggestions will be gratefully received. I am not sure how many websites and blogs are connected but I've copied it here (slightly edited), just in case someone comes up with an answer. Ronnie in Bangalore tried but failed. In fact I posted a photograph of my Gt Grandmother, Catherine Mary, on his website, instead of her mother, Mary Agnes Condell. Genealogy can be extremely muddling at times! Now I come to think of it he was a Captain when in the 31st Native Infantry and retired when he was a Major the 1st Native Infantry. At one time they called him John Alexander Condell, just to make things difficult. Dian

Searching for name of mother to James Gerald HALL b 1889-1890 Madras m Adelaide Margaret HOGG 1913&1915 Madras. We know James Edward HALL was the father and Archibald Fitzmaurice HALL a sibling to James Gerald Hall. Any BMD records for any of the names mentioned would be fantastic to help resolve the missing link to connect the family, would greatly appreciate any sibling information. We believe the HALL family originated in IRELAND and arrived into India circa 1700s-1800s. Linda Kemp (nee Hall) Location : South Australia Email : [email protected]

Here is a ROWE family from Bombay, India. It is descended from the ROWE family that I posted on October 31st., 2009, on this list. William Francis ROWE, son of Peter Anthony ROWE and Anna Suzanna MANOL, was born about 1859, probably in Bombay. About 1886 / 87, William married (1) Anne Frances Isidora ESPERANCE, from Bandra, Bombay. She died, aged 29, on August 14th., 1898. William married (2) Victoria Josephine DSILVA, in the Cathedral of Our Lady of Hope, Buleshawar, Bombay, on September 19th., 1904. William, aged 62, died on July 4th., 1921; Victoria died on August 5th., 1960; they are all three buried, with m.i., in the Rowe grave in Sewri Cemetery. William had issue, by each of his two wives. William and Isidora had issue, including: 1. Olive Mary ROWE, born on March 11th., 1890. On May 1st., 1911, in the Chapel of St. Theresa, Girgaum, she married Dr. Joseph Valentine FERNANDEZ. Joseph Valentine was an Assistant Surgeon in the 2nd. Norfolk Regiment. He died in Mesopotamia on December 1st., 1915, in W.W. 1. Olive died on December 28th., 1940. They had issue. 2. Stanislaus Frederick ROWE, born on September 8th., 1891. On September 26th., 1927, in the Chapel of St. Theresa, he married (1) Teresa Ethel DSOUZA. Teresa died on May 8th., 1933. Stanny married (2) Winifred Edith DSOUZA. Stanny died on June 15th., 1967. Stanny had issue, through both his wives, three sons, in all. 3. Mabel Dorothy ROWE, born on May 11th., 1893. On February 3rd., 1929, in the Chapel of St. Theresa, she married Julian William PAUL. Julian had been born on February 21st., 1896, and baptized in Cannanore, India. Julian worked in the British Govt. Foreign Postal Service. He, later, ran J. W. Paul Freight Brokerage Co, Bombay. Julian died on January 10th., 1957 and was buried in Bangalore. They had issue. William and Victoria had issue, including: 4. Mary Monica ROWE, born on August 28th., 1911. In about 1932, Mona married Joseph Michael COLACO. They had issue. I would be pleased to share ROWE family history notes with any descendant or researcher of this family, all cousins of mine. Best wishes. Peter Ferreira Toronto, Canada.

Hello List Anne, as Maundy Charles Rodgers Rodgers was in the Indian Subordinate Medical Department, the FIBIS Fibiwiki page Apothecary sets out the records available if you want to research his medical career. http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Apothecary Cheers Maureen (Sydney) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of anne rogers Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013 4:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [INDIA] Birth details and parents of Maundy Charles Rodgers Rodgers Dear Listers I know Maundy Charles Rodgers Rodgers was born 4 December 1884 in Ootacomund. He was a Doctor in the Indian Subordinate Medical Service and served as a doctor in the military during the two World Wars. He married Alice Baroni in 1909 in the Catholic Cathedral in Calcutta. On his marriage papers his father was quoted as William Bernard Peters. If anyone can shed any light on Rodgers or Peters I should be very grateful indeed. Many thanks Anne Rugby UK

Does anyone know if any records exist of the Directors of the East India Company at the British Library other than the list of names and dates. I only know that my ancestor Charles Chambers was a Director from 1755 - 1757 and again from 1763 to 1768. His son Charles Chambers Jr was also a director after him. Charles Chambers Sr was also Consul of Madeira. Surprisingly but happily, the FIBIS site has the birth record of his son John Chambers in Madeira. >From newspaper and burial records, I know that Charles Chambers Sr died in London in 1776 and no age was recorded but I am trying to find out when and where he was born. Thank you. Pippa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: theamblerfamily Surnames: Ambler Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2401.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Try here: http://www.macfamilytree.com/Richard Ambler/TheAmblerFamily.com Family Tree/persons/person72.html If you find a connection to my ancestors in India, please let me know. Best wishes Richard Ambler Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Penni, no wonder we have problems! I'll have a look at the Iver 1871 census. In the meantime I have tracked down the surname Evers. Mayor Henry Condell, in his will dated 24 Oct 1971, left Melbourne Lodge and a dwelling house next to Melbourne Lodge, Ealing, for the use of his son William Vallange Condell and Arthur Ever of Marlborough St, Regent St. in the county of Middlesex. No idea why Arthur Evers is connected to the Condells. The will is quite difficult to read but not impossible! Dian

Hi Dian Have a look at the 1871 UK census, Iver, Buchinghamshire. William Vallende Condell age 40(or 43 black mark on page), Visitor, born Tasmania, transcribed incorrectly as Jamaica Regards Penni

A interesting article from Mail Online http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2280763/Hundreds-British-war-graves-Indian-city-face-dug-make-way-new-railway-line.html  Cheers De in Aus Searching for RAYMOND, HARDIE, BURNS, WALLIS, DAVIDSON, WHITE, ALLEN, OWEN/S, LARENGO, PATHE, SCOTT, WICKENS, MAYBERY, WILKINS.

Hello Dian I had a quick look at Ancestry and found an interesting 1861 census in Brampton, Kensington Middlesex. William V Condele age 23, Visitor, born Australia, British Subject staying with Edward Welsh age 36 'Gentleman' born West Indies also a B. S. and his wife Annie age 27 born in America a B. S. along with Agnes Emily Welsh age 4 born in Shropshire a Visitor. This may not be your man but another spelling to explore and a very interesting household. Penni

Hello Penni The surname was often spelled Cundell in the same family as Condell. Oddly, my Major Joseph Alexander Condell (HEICS) had a nephew called William Vallange Condell, born 1927 in Hobart, son of Joseph's brother, Henry Condell, first Mayor of Melbourne when it was a new town. William Vallange Condell married twice, once in Australia and again in England where he lived for the rest of his life. I would love to be able to say you had found him in Kensington, but the age is wrong and he dropped the surname Condell, calling himself William Vallange, as did his son Clement Vallange Condell, who called himself Clement Vallange Vallange! The Mayor's wife was Marion Vallange from Tranent in Scotland, hence the use of her surname. All the best, Dian