Hi There Could someone have a look a the 1841 census please and tell me who is living with THOMAS LYNN Born 1774 & living in Devon. He is a famous Naval Officer - hoping to link him to my Lynn family in India Thanks Very Much Sue

Thank you for that, Peter! It must have run in the family, because I have found in the LONDON GAZETTE January 4, 1895 that my g-grandfather John Pearson Vaillant is listed as an Insolvent, too! As he was running two families at the same time (I am from the legitimate line!) and fathering children within a couple of months of each other from both women, I am not surprised that he was bankrupted! I see that a Freddie Colquhoun asked for info re the Vaillants in 2006 on the message board, but have been unable to contact him. I hope I have mailed this to the right address - I find the several email addresses below very confusing (I am getting old!) - Audrey von Lintzgy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 17 March 2013 16:30 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [INDIA] Vaillants of Rangoon, Burma/Calcutta, India This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pgevans170 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/1165.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Audrey, The London Gazette on page 2238 of its 26/08/1830 edition has the following entry included in its list of prisoners (for insolvency) held in the prison in Bombay "Philip John Vaillant, Lieutenant in the 13th regiment of Native lnfantry,on the Bombay establishment.- A prisoner in the Gaol of Bombay." You may know that the London Gazette is freely available to read on line. I hope that this may be helpful. Peter Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ===== India Mailing List ===== Families in British India Society: http://www.fibis.org Archives for this list can be found at: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=INDIA and at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/INDIA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Marian and Peter, Would you please include me in any discoveries as I'm very keen to find information regarding a Captain John Clarke RN (d. Oct 1776 Madras). He was born about 1730 - where I don't know. I suspect Ireland or maybe London. After all these years Marian there is a vague possibility of a Clarke link, perhaps? When in London last year, I saw the (extremely faint) marriage entry for Capt John Clarke RN to Mary Rogers 1760 in Madras. This very legible entry is found on the FIBIS site, but it was good to see the original. Cheers Helen - Brisbane

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pgevans170 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/1165.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Audrey, The London Gazette on page 2238 of its 26/08/1830 edition has the following entry included in its list of prisoners (for insolvency) held in the prison in Bombay "Philip John Vaillant, Lieutenant in the 13th regiment of Native lnfantry,on the Bombay establishment.- A prisoner in the Gaol of Bombay." You may know that the London Gazette is freely available to read on line. I hope that this may be helpful. Peter Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AudreyvonLintzgy Surnames: Vaillant Classification: birth Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/1165.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am descended from Charles Louis Vaillant, through John Pearson Vaillant and his daughter Aileen Grace Vaillant, who married Major Clarence StClair Cameron. They lived in Calcutta. My mother was John Pearson Vaillant's granddaughter. I would welcome more information on this Vaillant family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi List, re Debra's request I have had help from the Dutch Burgher Union, they hold various family trees . hope thats helpful, Jackie

Marion asked: Peter Many thanks for the information on Ships Journals. You have jogged my memory and looking through my papers on Thomas Clarke I have just found notes referring to Ships Journals IOR/L/Mar A-B 1605-1856. I now recall that you gave me this lead some years ago which I followed up and I subsequently found the following reference: Royal Admiral 1786-1788(1) IOR/L/MAR/B/338D (Journal), 338N (1)( Ledger) 3338N(4)( Imprest.) Would these have been three separate files? --ooOoo-- Yes, Marion, when you get a chance, please go to the British Library and request the L/MAR/B/338D and 338N Volumes. These should each separately include lists of the names and ranks of the ship's crew (with dates of engagement/discharge) plus details of their pay. Good Hunting Peter Bailey Chairman Families in British India Society www.fibis.org

Hello List Marion, the FIBIS Fibiwiki page Ships' Logs has more information http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Ships%27_Logs Cheers Maureen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of marion walter Sent: Friday, 15 March 2013 3:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [INDIA] The Royal Admiral Peter Many thanks for the information on Ships Journals. You have jogged my memory and looking through my papers on Thomas Clarke I have just found notes referring to Ships Journals IOR/L/Mar A-B 1605-1856. I now recall that you gave me this lead some years ago which I followed up and I subsequently found the following reference: Royal Admiral 1786-1788(1) IOR/L/MAR/B/338D (Journal), 338N (1)( Ledger) 3338N(4)( Imprest.) Would these have been three separate files? As far as I can remember I didn't find any list of names but perhaps I didn't pursue it far enough or ran out of time.. I probably went off on another search and poor old Thomas Clarke was left on hold. So I shall have to try to get up to the India Office and have another go. Regards Marion

Hello List Debra, the FIBIS Fibiwiki has pages Ceylon and Dutch, which may give you some ideas http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Ceylon http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Dutch Cheers Maureen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Debra Ewles Sent: Friday, 15 March 2013 3:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [INDIA] SALDER dutch soldier in Ceylon Hello List I was wondering if anyone can point me the the right direction with regards to Dutch in Ceylon. Most of my ancesters up until now have been traced back to India however I never knew how some of them got there. I recently came across a posting on Google that led me to theV.O.C website and I found a listing for the name Christoffel Jochem SALDER from Slendel sailed away on ship HUIS te Assenburg from Holland 19 March 1729 arriving in Ceylon 05 Nov 1729 The Family name SALDER is my brickwall ,I have been researching my tree for the last 5 years, so any little snippnet of info regarding the name or how Dutch ancestry would be welcome. Kind regards Debra

For Maureen. Many thanks for the information. You have enthused me even more to go back over my research with renewed hope. Regards Marion

Hello List I was wondering if anyone can point me the the right direction with regards to Dutch in Ceylon. Most of my ancesters up until now have been traced back to India however I never knew how some of them got there. I recently came across a posting on Google that led me to theV.O.C website and I found a listing for the name Christoffel Jochem SALDER from Slendel sailed away on ship HUIS te Assenburg from Holland 19 March 1729 arriving in Ceylon 05 Nov 1729 The Family name SALDER is my brickwall ,I have been researching my tree for the last 5 years, so any little snippnet of info regarding the name or how Dutch ancestry would be welcome. Kind regards Debra

Peter Many thanks for the information on Ships Journals. You have jogged my memory and looking through my papers on Thomas Clarke I have just found notes referring to Ships Journals IOR/L/Mar A-B 1605-1856. I now recall that you gave me this lead some years ago which I followed up and I subsequently found the following reference: Royal Admiral 1786-1788(1) IOR/L/MAR/B/338D (Journal), 338N (1)( Ledger) 3338N(4)( Imprest.) Would these have been three separate files? As far as I can remember I didn't find any list of names but perhaps I didn't pursue it far enough or ran out of time.. I probably went off on another search and poor old Thomas Clarke was left on hold. So I shall have to try to get up to the India Office and have another go. Regards Marion

Marion wrote: Following the recent information from Fibis, this snippet from the Derby Mercury may be of interest. I came across it when researching Thomas Clarke who went to India on the Royal Admiral in 1787. "Shipping News London January 2nd 1787 On Saturday night a desperate and alarming Affray broke out on board the Royal Admiral Indiamen at Gravesend between Seamen and Hanoverian Troops. The scuffle grew outrageous and no less than 6 sailors were forced through portholes overboard and were with extreme difficulties saved from death. The seasonable interference of the Officers at length quieted the tumult, but not before several men were desperately wounded. Derby Mercury January 1787" Would there be Muster Rolls for the British contingent on this ship? Marion --ooOoo-- Thank you so much Marion for this interesting 'snippet'. Yes, indeed. There may well be both a Commander's Journal and a Crew List for this voyage in the L/MAR/B series in the India Office Records. My guess is that it would have needed about four Indiamen to have taken the two Hanoverian Regiments to India. It should be relatively easy to locate the records of at least three. I understand that one of the ships foundered off Rio de Janeiro en route to India. The soldiers and crew were saved to go on to Madras and I hope that the Commander saved his journal too! Good Hunting Peter Bailey Chairman Families in British India Society www.fibis.org

Following the recent information from Fibis, this snippet from the Derby Mercury may be of interest. I came across it when researching Thomas Clarke who went to India on the Royal Admiral in 1787. "Shipping News London January 2nd 1787 On Saturday night a desperate and alarming Affray broke out on board the Royal Admiral Indiamen at Gravesend between Seamen and Hanoverian Troops. The scuffle grew outrageous and no less than 6 sailors were forced through portholes overboard and were with extreme difficulties saved from death. The seasonable interference of the Officers at length quieted the tumult, but not before several men were desperately wounded. Derby Mercury January 1787" Would there be Muster Rolls for the British contingent on this ship? Marion

Hello List David, although it is not directly connected with your enquiry, this Rootsweb India Message Board thread, to which I gave a reply, seemed to have a Parsi connection. So perhaps there was some intermarriage http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/417.1/mb.ashx There are FIBIS Fibiwiki pages German and Jewish http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=German and http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Jewish although the early Jews in India seemed to be Baghdadi Jews, rather than European Jews, so perhaps you should be focusing on the German connection. Cheers Maureen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Railton Sent: Saturday, 9 March 2013 8:44 AM To: [email protected]; INDIA-BRITISH-RAJ Subject: [INDIA] TUBACK I have the name Maneckji Pestonji Tuback born about 1827 probably in Bombay. He was Commissioner of the Baroda Police. He married a Parsi and his children were Parsi. His father may have been Pestonjee Merwanjee Tuback born about 1809. What I am having difficulty with is a Parsi having what appears to be a non Parsi surname. Is it not unusual if not unheard of particularly in those times for the children of a mixed Parsi non-Parsi marriage to be Parsees? I am guessing that Tuback is German and maybe Jewish. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? David

I've also received my free copies, fantastic. Joan Hi All, I've had a great result with receiving the free copies of records also, it's wonderful. Cheers, Jill

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: highland_denny Surnames: Palmer, Rose Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2526.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Lesley, Sorry, no Ada is not in my tree. It appears that my great uncle Harold Palmer went to India all on his own, leaving the rest of his family behind in England. He adopted a son Dennis Rose who subsequently took the Palmer name and went to Australia in the 1960s. Good luck with your research, Denise Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi All, I've had a great result with receiving the free copies of records also, it's wonderful. Cheers, Jill

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 1_ljb48 Surnames: Palmer/Speechly Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2526.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I am related to the Palmer families from India and in my family I have these people in my family tree: Daniel Speechly married - Ada Louisa Georgiana Palmer are they in ur family tree. Cheers Lesley Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.