hello list looking for family of Charles Martin father of Charles Oscar William Martin born 09 1849 died 06 01 1881 Bombay many thanks Ian

Dear Geri Thank you for looking at the Dutch Archives for Albertus Francois Van Holt. I have no information on him apart from [1] the announcement [from FIBIS database] of his daughters birth in 1799 in Madras., [2] the death of his wife in 1857 in Madras, and [3] his possible death also from the FIBIS database in 1817, the transcription reads A. J. Van Holt not A. F. Van Holt, and there may have been an error in the original notice of this event. regards and thanks Mary Anne 1. Albertus Francois van Holt (Gearoidin Dent) Message: 1 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:49:57 +0100 From: Gearoidin Dent <[email protected]> Subject: [INDIA] Albertus Francois van Hol Someone recently asked me via the India list to do a check up for the above person in the Dutch archives. I have checked 'WieWasWie' and also The Hague Archives for this person, but unfortunately no success. The only person who came close to this name was a Reinier Francois Van Holt, who is registered in the VOC passengers list as a Soldier arriving in Indonesia on the 9th September 1741. He was discharged in 1753. It's possible that this person is a relative given the similarity in name, but of course I cannot verify this. I should add that the Dutch archives are only just starting to put stuff online in one central location, so its possible that at some future stage, this above person will show up. Otherwise, one needs to know where the person was born or baptised in order to do any research. The good thing is, that mother's maiden names are always given, since one never loses their maiden name even when they marry. Very often if you know the mother's name, you can also r! esearch under the maiden name as all records, regarding births and deaths will show the mother's maiden name. Well, I wish whoever it was who made the request, lots of luck with their research. I'm sorry that I don't know their name, but I accidently deleted the India List email. Geri ------------------------------

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ejh1_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2746.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Did you ever get replies to your question? One of his children is described on the following site - www.launcestonfamilyalbum.org.au/detail/.../francis-stuart-pictet Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

If SKS has access to British newspapers on Findmypast, I would appreciate details of marriage announcement in Chelmsford Chronicle 20 Sept 1912, snippet of which reads "...Mrs B. Bunyer, and granddaughter of Col. R.Angelo....at St Thomas Cathedral Bombay....The ceremony was performed by the Rev. A.W. Sawtell, Senior Presidency Chaplain..." Leslie George Town, Penang

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MajellaP Surnames: CRONAN Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2788/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Greetings from Australia. Does anyone have access to 1) a history of the above, and/or 2) records for the above? A 2002 post shows that there are records held by the community (http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/INDIA/2002-09/1031947746) I know from research (on the web and via print books) that C Troop formed in 1805 as the Rocket Troop Madras Horse Artillery. Also, that it saw time in China during the Opium Wars, and the second Burma War. Gaps in my ancestor's 10 child timeline (as built from Family Search data) suggest that he saw time in both arenas; possibly also in the Sikh wars of 1845-49, and the second war in China (1856-59). It also appears he left the service after the Mutiny and the restructure of the armies in 1858. My ancestor is Thomas CRONAN. I found a FIBIS record showing his marriage in 1839 at St Thomas Mount, Madras. He died in 1875 in Madras. My goal is to learn more about C Troop, and to determine where in Ireland Thomas CRONAN came from. If no-one can assist, I understand my best course of action is to access documents at the National Archives in Kew, and the British Library (India Office) in London. All advice welcome. Thank you, Majella Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Someone recently asked me via the India list to do a check up for the above person in the Dutch archives. I have checked 'WieWasWie' and also The Hague Archives for this person, but unfortunately no success. The only person who came close to this name was a Reinier Francois Van Holt, who is registered in the VOC passengers list as a Soldier arriving in Indonesia on the 9th September 1741. He was discharged in 1753. It's possible that this person is a relative given the similarity in name, but of course I cannot verify this. I should add that the Dutch archives are only just starting to put stuff online in one central location, so its possible that at some future stage, this above person will show up. Otherwise, one needs to know where the person was born or baptised in order to do any research. The good thing is, that mother's maiden names are always given, since one never loses their maiden name even when they marry. Very often if you know the mother's name, you can also research under the maiden name as all records, regarding births and deaths will show the mother's maiden name. Well, I wish whoever it was who made the request, lots of luck with their research. I'm sorry that I don't know their name, but I accidently deleted the India List email. Geri

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Hello List Phillip, the FIBIS Fibiwiki page Police will give you an idea of the records available http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Police I have never looked at records for Police, but they do sound quite complicated. However even if you find out details about his career, I think it is very unlikely you would find any information about "who his first wife was and if he had any children with her". If you were lucky you might find where he had come from. One of the links on the Fibiwiki page is a book by an author I. Tyrrell who joined the Madras Police in 1860. He had been in a British Army Regiment in India, so it is possible James Grant had a similar background. Coincidentally I. Tyrrell was appointed an Inspector of Police and went to Nellore, but I did not see a mention of James Grant in the chapters about Nellore. Cheers Maureen (Sydney) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Phillip White Sent: Monday, 25 March 2013 12:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [INDIA] GRANT Dear Readers, My great, great grandfather James Grant married Ann Thomas nee Ladore atNellore, India in 1862. James Grant was a widower and Ann Thomas a widow. On the wedding certificate it says that he was an Inspector of Police. He was 42 and she 37 years old when married. Does anyone know if there are any records of the police in Nellore, Madras, India that I could look at which could possibly give me clues to where he was born, who his first wife was and if he had any children with her. Thanks, Phillip

Geri Your email on the Dutch version of findmypast was interesting. I have had a look but my Dutch is non existant. I wonder if you wouldn't mind checking out the name Albertus Francois Van Holt. thanks Mary Anne From: Gearoidin Dent <[email protected]> Subject: [INDIA] Christoffel Jochem Salder To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Further to Debra's message regarding above person, I just wanted to say that I did a quick lookup in the Dutch Archives, and found the following, which I believe is the same person, but the first two names are shown in reverse order. It doesn't give much more info other than where he originated from and when he was discharged from the army. I have translated what the Dutch record says. QuoteJochem Christoffel SalderOriginally from: SlendelProfession: SoldierDebt Letter: Yes Event: End of contractDate: Monday, 18 December 1752Place: Asia Event: Departure RoomDate: Saturday, 19 March 1829Event: Arrival CapeDate: Sunday, 17 Juy 1729 Event: Departure CapeDate: Saturday, 13 August 1729Event: Arrival IndiesDate: Saturday, 5 November 1729 Source:Doc. Type: VOC (Dutch East Indies company)Heritage Institution: South Holland, Formosa and VOChttps://www.wiewaswie.nl/UnquoteI also tried to see if I could find any more records for this person, but nothing showed up. There were a few othe! r Salder's but of course I'm not sure if they are related or not. I don't know where the place Slendel is, nor does it appear either when I do a Google search. For those who may have Dutch ancestors, I recently discovered the website below which is a kind of 'Find My Past'. One can do free searches which have been transcribed, but to see the original documents you have to be a member. Anyway, I hope this may be of some help. If I can be of any further help, please let me know. Geri

Debra - When I was looking for a Meppen ancestor who went to India in 1767 on a VOC ship I received a great deal of help from a very nice lady (Mrs van Hoof) who was the Senior Archivist of the 1st Dept, General State Archives, Prinz Willem-Alexanderhof 20, 's Gravenhage, Netherlands. She explained that all personnel in each VOC establishment are registered according to professional category and in a strict hierarchical order. My chap was in Pulicat, the Coromandel establishment and she managed to find him, helped by the fact he was the only Meppen mentioned. She was able to give me full details of his career including his salary right up to the time that his wages stopped in mid-July 1795 when Coromandel was handed over to the British. I think she found him in the Land Muster Rolls for the relevant establishment. I received this information a very long time ago so I doubt Mrs van Hoof will still be there but these records should still be available. I am not sure what your original request was but I hope this information may be of interest Regards Marion Meppen-Walter

Dear Geri Thank you for very much for your interest. I shall try the mentioned site to see if any of the Salders listed are part of my family. Thanks again Debra

Further to Debra's message regarding above person, I just wanted to say that I did a quick lookup in the Dutch Archives, and found the following, which I believe is the same person, but the first two names are shown in reverse order. It doesn't give much more info other than where he originated from and when he was discharged from the army. I have translated what the Dutch record says. QuoteJochem Christoffel SalderOriginally from: SlendelProfession: SoldierDebt Letter: Yes Event: End of contractDate: Monday, 18 December 1752Place: Asia Event: Departure RoomDate: Saturday, 19 March 1829Event: Arrival CapeDate: Sunday, 17 Juy 1729 Event: Departure CapeDate: Saturday, 13 August 1729Event: Arrival IndiesDate: Saturday, 5 November 1729 Source:Doc. Type: VOC (Dutch East Indies company)Heritage Institution: South Holland, Formosa and VOChttps://www.wiewaswie.nl/UnquoteI also tried to see if I could find any more records for this person, but nothing showed up. There were a few other Salder's but of course I'm not sure if they are related or not. I don't know where the place Slendel is, nor does it appear either when I do a Google search. For those who may have Dutch ancestors, I recently discovered the website below which is a kind of 'Find My Past'. One can do free searches which have been transcribed, but to see the original documents you have to be a member. https://www.wiewaswie.nl/ Anyway, I hope this may be of some help. If I can be of any further help, please let me know. Geri

Dear Readers, My great, great grandfather James Grant married Ann Thomas nee Ladore atNellore, India in 1862. James Grant was a widower and Ann Thomas a widow. On the wedding certificate it says that he was an Inspector of Police. He was 42 and she 37 years old when married. Does anyone know if there are any records of the police in Nellore, Madras, India that I could look at which could possibly give me clues to where he was born, who his first wife was and if he had any children with her. Thanks, Phillip

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: railtond Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2786.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Martin, A few thoughts on your query. Passengers from Ireland probably travelled through Britain. Although I dont know of any on-line passenger lists for voyages starting in Ireland there are lists available on-line from that period of journies starting in Britain. I dont know that you will find arrivals in India. I have found that troops are not usually always listed on published passenger lists but family travelling with them sometime are. If you give me the names and years of birth of the individuals concerned I will see if I can find anything. David Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Brain_Martin Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2786.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Les, Thanks for the names of those troop ships. I will keep note of them, as I may hopefully find some day a place to access passenger records of these ships. Cheers, Martin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: stockieles Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2786.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Martin, I can recall three ships which did carry troops ... SS Strathnaver & Stratheden & Madura (Liverpool?).I can not guess where these passenger records will be, but hope this will help. regards Les Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Brain_Martin Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2786.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi again Maureen, Thanks for the info you received on Maspatamia and Frizzbad. You are probably right that Frizzbad is actually Fyzabad, as one of the Collis children were baptised in Fyzabad in 1926. Thanks again for all your help, I really appreciate it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Brain_Martin Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2786.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Maureen, Thanks for your reply to my post. I agree, the army service record should unlock some answers. So I will be organising my application for this soon. I too have had trouble in finding a death record of Elizabeth on the various records and sources. It might mention her death in her father's army service record hopefully. With regards to the family travelling on a troop ship, would you know if there are records of people who travelled on these? If so, would you know where or who I can contact to get access to them? It will be good to have date for their arrival and departure, rather than estimated before and after dates. With regards to the towns, they could probably be spelt wrong sorry. My Dad's cousin who worked on the tree years ago talked to an older brother and sister of Elizabeth's and she scribbled the names of the towns in her notes. She has emailed me the info from her notes, and she told me that she wasn't sure of the spelling of each. You are right though, the towns will probably be mentioned on the army service record. Thanks again for your help, Martin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maureenr5 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2786.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Martin Frizzbad (mentioned in your other post) could be Faizabad (Fyzabad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faizabad Cheers Maureen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.