In answer to Leonie's question. I located a digitised copy of 'Dehra Dun - Past and Present', a guide to Dehra and the Doon district written in 1929 by a Captain O. E. S. Power, and have downloaded it page by page (all 116 pages) and re-compiled it into a single .pdf document of 4.6MB. I've also bookmarked the file as I went through it. Unfortunately some pages were missed in the digitisation procedure, but it does allow us to conclude that were three hotels in the town at that time - the Royal (formerly known as the Northern), the Alexandra and the Gresham. The Victoria is mentioned, but in such a way to strongly suggest that it had closed by 1929. The book is a strange little document; it is deficient in that it has no map, nor a list of European residents. Nevertheless it might be useful to anyone who has an interest in the town. If you have a genuine overwhelming urge to possess a copy of this document, I can send it to you as an e-mail attachment, but please contact me off-list - remember, though, it is 4.6 MB. This offer is open for a limited time only. If anyone from FIBIS administration is interested and reading this, I could burn it on to a CD for the Society and send it to you. Even dress it up a bit with a nice cover! Noel

Where would I look to find the service records of people who joined the British Indian Army in India in WW2 and were subsequently demobbed in England as British subjects. Would there be campaign medals? Any help greatly appreciated. Marion

Hello List Leonie and Noel, the Digital Library of India has some online Thackers for the required period, See the FIBIS Fibiwiki page Directories online, section Thackers Indian Directory http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Directories_online#Thacker.27s_Indian_ Directory or http://tinyurl.com/q567xvl Cheers Maureen Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 20:22:32 +1000 From: "Noel Clark" <[email protected]> Subject: [INDIA] Hotels in Dehra Dun To: <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Leonie, I would say the best place to look would be the Mofussil section of the various editions of Thacker's Indian Directory, and look through 'Commercial' for Dehra Dun. In 1895 there was certainly one hotel, the 'Victoria', managed by Walter Francis Trotter; he was also there in 1879. There was also an establishment called 'Theodore's Lodge', proprietor Lalla Munee Ram. These are the only two establishments listed in 1895. I don't know of any other editions of Thacker on-line. There are further editions in the State Library of Victoria (1911, 1917, 1925, 1929, 1933), but they are held offsite and have to be ordered up. Last time I did this I think two editions were missing. See also http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~poyntz/India/directories.html#SOG_au . South Australia is not mentioned. Noel

Hello List Noel, thank you for posting this. I'm sorry I can't give you any information, but until your post I was unaware down load of an entire book was even possible. For the information of other Listers, I did a Google search, which resulted in the http://www.sanskritdocuments.org/scannedbooks website page which gives details of a number of different software programs, the first mentioned of which is DLI Downloader 0.23 which is mentioned in the next link. http://dlidownloader.blogspot.com.au/ The following link gives detailed instructions for a download, based on the DLI Downloader 0.23 program http://techstunted.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/downloading-books-from-digital-li brary.html or http://tinyurl.com/olo83a6 I too wound be interested to know whether anyone has experience of any of the downloads. As was said on the last blog "DLI is an ambitious project. But, over the past couple of years, I've been wondering why anyone would go to the trouble of uploading so many valuable books and not ensure easy access". Cheers Maureen (Sydney) ** Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 11:02:20 +1000 From: "Noel Clark" <[email protected]> Subject: [INDIA] Downloading books from the Digital Library of India Just wondering whether anyone has actually downloaded the 'DLI Downloader' software and then downloaded a book from the Digital Library of India website? So far I have downloaded short books one page at a time, always being reluctant to download software from the net without being sure it's safe. One page at a time is OK for books of, say, 100 pages or so, but not really feasible for longer books. Would appreciate any comments anyone has. Thank you. Noel

Just wondering whether anyone has actually downloaded the 'DLI Downloader' software and then downloaded a book from the Digital Library of India website? So far I have downloaded short books one page at a time, always being reluctant to download software from the net without being sure it's safe. One page at a time is OK for books of, say, 100 pages or so, but not really feasible for longer books. Would appreciate any comments anyone has. Thank you. Noel

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maureenr5 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2801.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: FamilySearch index record: Name: Henry Ashley Calvert Emile Gender: Male Burial Date: 10 Jan 1918 Burial Place: Lucknow, Bengal, India Death Date: 10 Jan 1918 Age: 49 Birth Date: 1869 Marital Status: Unknown Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B75048-6 System Origin: India-EASy GS Film number: 527550 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGKH-9QX You can request a copy of the full record which may have cause of death. For more information about this, see the FIBIS Fibiwiki page "Family Search Centres" http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Family_Search_Centres http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/t/e/Robert-D-Stewart/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0545.html mentions Redvers Cavendish, born September 17, 1899 in Gwaliar, (usual spelling Gwalior) India, and died March 15, 1976 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada Cheers Maureen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cathyc671 Surnames: Emile, Ashley-Emile, Perkins Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2801/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Am searching for early 1800s records for Alfred Emile (1805-1869) who married Elizabeth (no last name?) and Sophia Perkins (1811-1852). Father of Henry Ashley Emile who seems to have fathered all the Ashley-Emiles in India. Where can I find birth records for these years in Bengal? I have used IBIS, FamilySearch, and India Office and come up short trying to go back any further. Unable to find any information on parents of Alfred or Sophia or birthplace in India or UK. Also looking for any information on Redvers Henry Ashley Emile (1899-1976) who called himself RHAE Cavendish or his sister Renee Emile (1917-1942) buried in Lucknow cemetery. Their father Henry Ashley Emile (1845-1916) was supposed to be a judge in India who was murdered in 1916. Unable to confirm this. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BaseleyG Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2352.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi! Reg, WE are for sure related, my dad used to go on about the De Youngs and Dilloway family, his cousins. William and Mary had a son, HENRY VERNON COLLINS who is my great-great grandfather. I'm a BASELEY. If you require any further info I'd love to share CUZ. Gary Baseley [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Leonie, I would say the best place to look would be the Mofussil section of the various editions of Thacker's Indian Directory, and look through 'Commercial' for Dehra Dun. In 1895 there was certainly one hotel, the 'Victoria', managed by Walter Francis Trotter; he was also there in 1879. There was also an establishment called 'Theodore's Lodge', proprietor Lalla Munee Ram. These are the only two establishments listed in 1895. I don't know of any other editions of Thacker on-line. There are further editions in the State Library of Victoria (1911, 1917, 1925, 1929, 1933), but they are held offsite and have to be ordered up. Last time I did this I think two editions were missing. See also http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~poyntz/India/directories.html#SOG_au . South Australia is not mentioned. Noel

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: arslanxyz Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2217.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hey ! I am from Multan . there are like 4 to 5 old chourch here in Multan . Can I help in away way ? please reply me at Facebook: ID : www.facebook.com/muhammad.a.tahir.3 TY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank you to all who responded to my query on St. John's, Sealdah, Calcutta, Bengal. As always, I appreciate your help. Sincerely, Nancy Rixon Lilly

Unlike his brothers who were employed in the railways, my great-uncle Denis Narcis(us) Ortiger (1874-1933) was in the hotel business in Dehra Dun where, in July 1914 he married Alice Mary Phillips, and where he died on 20 December 1933. Can anyone advise if and where a listing of hotels in Dehra Dun might be accessed/obtained? Léonie Fretwell Burra, South Australia [email protected] www.fretwell.kangaweb.com.au <http://www.fretwell.kangaweb.com.au/>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maureenbrown60 Surnames: Brown, Bellard Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2800/mb.ashx Message Board Post: >From the 1901 census I know that James and Ann Jane Brown (nee Bellard) lived for a while in India. They had two sons born there: William J. Brown b.1874 Calcutta and Joseph Brown b. 1876 Seetapur. Their next son (that I know of) was born 1880 in Liverpool. I am having trouble searching the records here for information about their time in India and would very much appreciate some help please! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The following announcement appeared in the West Briton newspaper, Truro, Cornwall, UK on 5 June 1857 and is forwarded from the CORNISH-GEN List. I have no further information, nor any interest in the family. I purely forward it to the List in the hope that it's of use to someone. Best wishes, Tom Thompson, St Agnes, Cornwall. ---0--- West Briton & Cornwall Advertiser - 5 June 1857 Marriages At Ottery St. Mary, Devon, on Monday last, the Rev. A. F. TURQUAND, second son of the late William James TURQUAND, Esq., of the H.E.I.C. Bengal Civil Service, to Ellen Eyre, daughter of the Rev. Dr. CORNISH, vicar of Ottery St. Mary..

The following announcement appeared in the West Briton newspaper, Truro, Cornwall, UK on 5 June 1857 and is forwarded from the CORNISH-GEN List. I have no further information, nor any interest in the family. I purely forward it to the List in the hope that it's of use to someone. Best wishes, Tom Thompson, St Agnes, Cornwall. ---0--- West Briton & Cornwall Advertiser - 5 June 1857 Deaths At Bombay, India, on the 15th of April, Mr. William ANCELL, aged 37 years, formerly of Penzance..

Yorkshire Family History Fair by Valmay Young FIBIS will have a stand at this years Yorkshire Family History Fair in York on Saturday 29th June. We will have several experts on hand to help people with research enquiries plus a small selection of books, FIBIS Guides and Fact Files for sale. Anyone interested in helping to man the stand please email: [email protected] Yorkshire Family History Fair Events Page For further details, including map and opening times, see the events page http://www.new.fibis.org/events/event/yorkshire-family-history-fair

Oral History Project by Valmay Young Niamh Dillon, a British Library staff member, is researching a Ph.D thesis at Goldsmiths College, University of London on migration within the British Empire in the 20th century, and more particularly on the lives of British people living in India in the period leading up to independence from Britain. She is hoping to record interviews with people who experienced life in India before independence, and their subsequent experiences after moving to Britain post-independence. If you would be willing to help her with a recorded interview please contact her by email at [email protected] or [email protected], or by post to Niamh Dillon, National Life Stories, British Library, 96 Euston Road, LondonNW1 2DB All recordings will be conducted in accordance with the ethical principles laid down by the Oral History Society. With the interviewees consent, the recordings will be archived at the British Library where she has been managing oral history projects since 2003

Training workshops in using India Office Records family history sources by Valmay Young Training workshops will be held on 9 July and 21 August 2013. Taking into account comments made on some evaluation forms by attendees of the long-established introductory sessions in family history, APAC Reference Services working in tandem with the Families In British India Society (FIBIS) are delighted to present specialized sessions looking at biographical sources for military personnel. No previous knowledge of the subject is expected or required. If, therefore, you believe you have European ancestors who served in the Indian sub-continent whether as officers or private soldiers, please book your free place by contacting [email protected] Depending on the level of interest shown, we plan to offer repeat sessions at regular intervals. The next session will be held on the afternoon of 4 September 2013. Book a place on the training workshops Asian and African Studies enquiries The British Library 96 Euston Road London NW1 2DB United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0)20 7412 7873 Fax: +44 (0)20 7412 7641 E-mail: [email protected]

Hello List Nancy, it appears this church is now part of the Roman Catholic Calcutta Archdiocese : Kolkata Deanery http://www.archdioceseofcalcutta.in/deaneries-kol.html You could try contacting the Archdiocese http://www.archdioceseofcalcutta.in/contact.html Maybe a phone call would give you better results than an email. Cheers Maureen Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 12:44:07 -0500 From: NANCY LILLY <[email protected]> Subject: [INDIA] St. John the Evangelist, Sealdah Does anyone on the list know where the baptism/marriage/burial registers of St. John the Evangelist, Sealdah are housed? I am looking for pre 1900 records. Do you have a contact person? Thank you. Nancy Rixon Lilly searching for ANDERSON, BAPTIST/E, BEATSON/BEADSON, BOTELHO/BOTELLHO, DE ABREU, D'CRUZE (& VARIANTS),D'SILVA/DESILVA, FERNANDES/FERNANDEZ, FERRON, LUCAS, PAUL, PELLY, QUINLAN, RIXON, STANISLAUS in Bengal, India!

Hello List Marjorie, I have not heard of any researchers. I have heard, probably third or fourth hand, about an organisation called "Your Man In India" which has a document procurement service. I have not used this service, and know nothing further about the company than the website. https://www.yourmaninindia.com/ Perhaps, instead of contacting individual churches as you have mentioned below, you could try contacting the relevant Archdioceses. Of course this may not be successful either. Perhaps phone contact may be a more successful option. The FIBIS Fibiwiki page "Church Records" has links which should enable you to locate Archdioceses for the Church of North India (protestant churches for Bombay), and for the Roman Catholic Archdioceses. http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Church_records Cheers Maureen Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 12:42:55 +0100 (IST) From: MARJORIE GAHAN <[email protected]> Subject: [INDIA] BOMBAY LOOK UPS To: [email protected] Dear List - if the following message feels like deja vous - it's just me persevering in the hunt for my family's history! Can anybody give me any info regarding people on the ground doing look ups in church records in India. Bombay, and areas of Mahim, Parel,Byculla and Dadar specifically. I would be quite prepared for research fees. I have been banging my head against that brick wall, contacting individual churches by letter, and apart from diligent response from Bangalore and Mysore, received no replies. Thank you Marjorie - Ireland