Michael, By the look of this site http://www.historic-shipping.co.uk/robwigram/lmelville%2013.html the "Lady Melville" made only one voyage to India in 1824... ...and by the look of this site http://isp.ans.com.au/~rampais/genelogy/india/indexes/embarks.htm LDS film 1866880 has the embarkations for this voyage. Noel

FIBIS members’ research interests updated by Valmay Young The FIBIS members' interests have been updated. Over 4,800 interests are now listed. These can only be accessed by FIBIS members when logged in to the FIBIS database website. http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/

Tombstones and Monuments in Ceylon by J. Penry Lewis, C.M.G. by Valmay Young Tombstones and Monuments in Ceylon by J. Penry Lewis, C.M.G. FIBIS is pleased to announce that we have fully scanned, transcribed, indexed and uploaded Tombstones and Monuments in Ceylon by J. Penry Lewis, C.M.G. to the FIBIS database website. All 2235 surnames are searchable and include images of the pages the entries appear on. Our thanks go to Bill Hall, Alan Edmonds and Merran Ainslie for all their hard work on this project.

Times of India newspaper births, marriages and deaths 1928 by Valmay Young Births, marriages and deaths as reported in the Times of India newspaper 1928 editions have been uploaded to the FIBIS database website. The data comprises of 366 births, 181 marriages and 1033 deaths, a total of 1580 entries. Our thanks go to David Edge and his team.

Hello List Michael, there are some records for this ship's voyages at the British Library, which often, but not always, contain a passenger list See the FIBIS Fibiwiki page Ship's Journals http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Ships%27_Logs which leads to http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlmar_3 <http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlmar_3&cid=1 -1-161#1-1-161> &cid=1-1-161#1-1-161 or http://tinyurl.com/k4cjj5h Cheers Maureen From: Michael Stuart < [email protected]> Subject: [INDIA] Lady Melville Madras arrival 1824 Passengers Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:08:28 +0800 Hi All, I suspect my great-great grand father arrived in Madras on the Lady Melville in July 1824. I found an old entry someone made on rootsweb for the boat and that year but it was incomplete!! Can anyone access the full passenger list for that year and confirm if he disembarked or not and any personal details?...... Many thanks, Michael Stuart, Western Australia

Hi All, I suspect my great-great grand father arrived in Madras on the Lady Melville in July 1824. I found an old entry someone made on rootsweb for the boat and that year but it was incomplete!! Can anyone access the full passenger list for that year and confirm if he disembarked or not and any personal details? Also Bevan Buckley are you on this list. I found an old post elsewhere where you also enquired about George. Would like to make contact. Many thanks, Michael Stuart, Western Australia

Hello List Shirley I'm not quite sure what you are asking. Delhi was part of Bengal. However, if you are referring to the Bengal Wills at the British Library, it is my understanding that these records only contain wills proved at the High Court at Calcutta. So if you believe that your ancestor's will was proved at Delhi, his will would not be in these records. But you may feel it is worth while checking. Cheers Maureen Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 12:33:23 -0700 From: Shirley Barbur <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [INDIA] INDIA Digest, Vol 8, Issue 148 Hi Maureen, Thank you for the information. If James Stephens will was proved in Delhi or thereabouts, would we still be looking under the Bengal presidency or somewhere else? Shirley

Hi Maureen, Thank you for the information. If James Stephens will was proved in Delhi or thereabouts, would we still be looking under the Bengal presidency or somewhere else? Shirley

Thank you Ann - will try the school - Thelma.

Hi Ed   Where would we be without the LDS site!   We all appreciate the dedication and long hours volunteers put in.  However may I gently point out that in most instances there are no page/folio numbers or else it would have been provided.  The item below is an exact presentation of the LDS record.    Unfortunately this will continue to be an ongoing issue for these good people.   Regards Indi     Name                             Victoria Niderham Burial date                     29 May 1894 Burial place                    Calcutta, Bengal, India Death date                     29 May 1894 Age                                   52 Birth date                       1 842 Marital status                Widowed Spouse's name              Joseph Niderham Indexing batch no.        B39358-5 Film                                 512350     Ed Keen said > Hello List, ...They said many people are not putting all of the information in their requests that is available on the FamilySearch.org indexes. They said the biggest items missing are volume and/or?page numbers.  When there is no page numbers they then need to go through the film until they find the record and then go to a scanner.  This can be very time consuming for the volunteers unless the record happens to be near the beginning of the film. I hope this gives everyone a better perspective on what is going on behind the scenes and how dedicated all of these LDS?volunteers are in fulfilling your requests...

Hello List,   I just returned from a two week research trip with a genealogy group to the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah.  On my first day, I was using a scanner and I was seated next to two ladies who had small baskets with film boxes in them and lists of what was to be scanned.  I asked them if they were fulfilling email requests.  They answered that they were and the lady to my immediate right said her request was from London and the other lady said she was fulfilling requests from Australia.  They said that they were spending their entire day filling orders and that they and the other LDS members were still about a month behind in completing orders.  That seems to be consistent with what I have heard in the past on this list.  What I would like for everyone to know is how many very dedicated people are working at the library every day fulfilling orders.  At 5 o'clock on most nights many of the young elders move into the scanner areas and fill orders until the library closes at 9:00 PM.  The number of patrons usually drops off at about 5:00 PM so more scanners are available.  The International floor has about eight scanners and the US and Canada films floor has fifteen.  All day long some of the young elders and some of the older members who are performing a two year mission at the library are seen fulfilling orders.  I do have a request from those two ladies I met my first day and who I saw every day at scanners on different floors.  They said many people are not putting all of the information in their requests that is available on the FamilySearch.org indexes.  They said the biggest items missing are volume and/or page numbers.  When there is no page numbers they then need to go through the film until they find the record and then go to a scanner.  This can be very time consuming for the volunteers unless the record happens to be near the beginning of the film.  I hope this gives everyone a better perspective on what is going on behind the scenes and how dedicated all of these LDS volunteers are in fulfilling your requests.   I spent most of my time in British records in the second basement floor (B2) looking for my Edward Lee family from County Carlow.  Edward went to India with the 16th Lancers in 1822, had three children with his wife Catherine (John 1823, Charles 1825 and Jane 1827) and was invalided back to the UK in 1829. Does anyone on the list have my Lee's in their tree?   Ed Keelin San Jose, California

Diana's 4th great-grandmother was at least half Indian: http://gma.yahoo.com/princess-dianas-hidden-ancestral-secret-revealed-170430408--abc-news-topstories.html?goback=.gde_101635_member_250049934 Janice Sellers

Here is another BOCARRO family group, living in Bombay, India. Edward J. BOCARRO was born in 1864, baptized in the Church of Our Lady of Health, Cavel, Bombay, in 1864. Edward married Mary NORRIS. Edward was in Government service. Edward 84 died on August 27th., 1948. Edward and Mary had issue: a. Herman Bocarro, died with no issue. b. Mervyn Bocarro. Lived in Bandra, Bombay, near St. Andrews Church. Mervyn worked for the G.I.P. Railway. Married and they had 2 girls. c. Richard Bocarro, m Coleen Durham. They lived in Bandra, near St. Andrews Church, and they had 3 children: Stewart, Barry and Dale??? d. Stanislaus (Stanny) Bocarro, no issue. e. Percy Bocarro f. Frank Bocarro, m Lily. They lived in Bandra, near St. Andrews Church. Frank was excellent with auto maintenance and worked, for some time for the Western India Automobile Association, W.I.A.A.. Frank later moved to the Middle East, where he died. About 1990, Lily died in a car accident in Australia. Frank and Lily had five children, names not known. I would be delighted to share BOCARRO family history notes with any descendant or researcher of this family, all cousins of mine. Best wishes. Peter Ferreira Toronto, Canada.

Hello List Shirley, the FIBIS Fibiwiki has a page "Wills, Administrations, Probate and Inventories" http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Wills,_Administrations,_Probate_and_In ventories or http://tinyurl.com/3u9mpwx There are copies of wills available at the British Library proved at the High Courts of Calcutta, Madras and Bombay. These records are also available on LDS microfilm, with a microfilm of the index for each Presidency. However I am doubtful whether someone who lived in the Central Provinces would have a will proved at these High Courts, so I suspect you would not be able to find a will for him. Other wills, proved at District Courts in India, if they exist at all now, would be in India. Cheers Maureen Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:26:43 -0700 From: Shirley Barbur <[email protected]> Subject: [INDIA] Searching for STEPHENS, DUNNE, WRIGHT, CURTIS Hello List, My grandfather James Alexander Stephens 1866 - 1933 was a lawyer who lived in India practically all of his life. I know that he was in the Civil Service in the Central Provinces, but not much more that that. Does anyone have suggestions how and where to look for his last will and testament? I think it would clarify a major brick wall in my family tree. Thank you, Shirley

Does anyone have a photograph/postcard or similar of Campbell Barracks, Dilkusha (Lucknow) late 19th/early 20th century that they would allow me to use in a family history book please? I have searched for one without success. Thank you. Noel

Hi, My name is RON,I live in Perth, Western Australia, I am researching my Indian family connections ,eg.my gg'f Joseph Austin BARRETT b.5th Sept.1859 . Bangalore, Madras ,India The family living in India : My ggg . Henry BARRETT b.1808 Denstone ,Suffolk, England .on the 2nd March 1825 age 17, enlisted in the 54th Regiment of Foot,No.247.Arrived in India 1829. Discharged May 1847 (age 39) on a pension of 1 shilling a day, and died 18th July 1870 in Bangalore. (age62) Henry's parents were William &Susan.(nee?) On the 5th Sept. 1837 in Trichinopoly, Madras, Henry m. Maria EDWARDS b.24th Sept. 1822 Bangalore d.13thSept.1862 Bangalore.(age40) (Henry age 31.Maria age 15 . when married) Maria's Parents were John EDWARDS & Mary SMITH,m.28th Oct.1819. Henry's second m. on the 23rd Sept.1868 in Bangalore. Elizabeth FINCH.(father Peter VANDPOLE) Children: Susannah b.1838 Trichinopoly , Madras.m.20th Dec 1851Madras. Richard HATTEN (ON ?) Elizabeth B.23RD Feb.1841 Belgaum ,Bombay, d.24th Dec. Bilza , Bombay , Madras. Ellen b.22nd Feb. 1843 Secunderabad ,Madras, m. 31st. Mar, 1859. Bangalore. Austin WALTERS. Harriet b.1847 m.31st Dec.1863 Bangalore. Wilson SHERWIN. David b.11thFeb1850.Bangalore (no other details known.) Sarah b.11th May 1852 d.16th May 1852 Bangalore. Samuel b. 10th Feb 1854 Bangalore d.21st April 1858 Bangalore. Henry William b. 18th Oct. 1856 Bangalore (no other details known) Joseph Austin b. 5th Sept 1859 Bangalore d. 6th Nov 1948 Maylands Western Australia. m. 13th July 1884 Perth Western Australia Jane DELLAR, second m.25th Sept 1915. Evelyn CROSS/TRUMAN. James Charles Vivian b.9th April 1862 Bangalore (no other details Known.) Notes to the research. I am endeavouring to trace each family line from b.m.d. , but in the mean time any information as to where the families ended up will be greatly appreciated, the brick wall families are David , Henry William and James Charles Vivian BARRETT. Ron Barrett Rejaa . [email protected]

Hello List, My grandfather James Alexander Stephens 1866 - 1933 was a lawyer who lived in India practically all of his life. I know that he was in the Civil Service in the Central Provinces, but not much more that that. Does anyone have suggestions how and where to look for his last will and testament? I think it would clarify a major brick wall in my family tree. Thank you, Shirley

David Cornelius wrote recently: The second question relates to a damaged photograph which I think might be another ancestor, TW Skinner, who was a conductor in the Madras Artillery. The picture is of a man in a winged collar with a cap or kepi, seemingly with a fur band, a central piece that goes towards the top with a metal button in front, and to the left of the band is an oval embossed badge of sorts. I don't know whther a military man would have worn a white winged collar. Would anyone know what sort of headgear would have been worn by anon-commissioned officer in the Madras Artillery? --ooOoo-- I wonder if David would be kind enough separately to e-mail me a copy of the photo he has. Firstly, because my own ancestor was a Conductor in the Madras Ordnance Dept. I have never seen a picture of the uniform that he wore and would be delighted if this turns out to be an example. Secondly, if someone can show that it is, indeed, the uniform of a Conductor in the Madras Ordnance Dept., we would be delighted to post it on our FibiWiki for all to see. (The damage would be acceptable unless/until we can find an undamaged one) Good Hunting! Peter Bailey Chairman Families in British India Society www.fibis.org

Hello List David, if you think your photograph is after 1837 (ie Victorian era) you could ask your question on the Victorian Wars Forum. You can post a photograph directly on the VWF. However the file size is restricted, so you would get a larger image available by posting, (or asking for the image to be posted) on the FIBIS Fibiwiki, then referring to the URL in your Victorian Wars Forum post. The procedure is set out in the FIBIS Fibiwiki page Mailing lists, section Military. http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=Mailing_lists#Military Cheers Maureen (Sydney) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:30:03 +1000 From: David Cornelius <[email protected]> Subject: [INDIA] Cornelius/ Skinner - Two questions I wonder if anyone on the List might be able to help me with twoproblems that seem to have blocked me?.... The second question relates to a damaged photograph which I think might be another ancestor, TW Skinner, who was a conductor in the Madras Artillery. The picture is of a man in a winged collar with a cap or kepi, seemingly with a fur band, a central piece that goes towards the top with a metal button in front, and to the left of the band is an oval embossed badge of sorts. I don't know whther a military man would have worn a white winged collar. Would anyone know what sort of headgear would have been worn by anon-commissioned officer in the Madras Artillery? Thank you, David Cornelius

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Suzanne_Chester Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.asia.india.general/2808/mb.ashx Message Board Post: lucien was married to lucille berry, lucien was a dipolmat in India child alfred who in turn had children called anne, pierre, guy ,and francoise many thanks sue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.