This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xh.2ADE/361.1.4.2 Message Board Post: Sorry I forgot to mention. They were Otto Frenzel's The Otto was what I noticed in your letter. The one site is http://www-lib.iupui.edu/special/hdip/home.html I hope you are a Fernsel though. We need to find the Fernsel's . There are so few of them in the US.