Hello; i'm researching the Moore's and Roberts in Clay Co. around 1830 to 1860's. iI have films of deeds in that time era I'm researching now, plus probate records after 1850 to 1860. Associated lines Cooper, Aldridge, Oswalt, Wilson. Any lines that came from around Henry Co., Ky. in mid 1800's. Randy May

The bridge on SR 59 was there in early thirties when I crossed it to go to Howesville school. I expect it was old then and I don't remember any construction on it. Could be wrong about it. Back then the Muirs lake was a fishing and boating place. In the winters it was used for ice skating. I remember autos being out on the ice. It has since become more like a swamp. The bridge has been replaced with large pipes. I suspect any WPA work would have been done on some of the smaller drainage ditches or on the old Wabash and Eire Canal. It seems like I remember my dad working on one, but it was several miles from Howesville. The CCC did a lot of work when they were building Shakamak State Park west of Jasonville. I think they may still have reunions there or did. Thos boyss would be getting up in years John Cashman, Coal City, Grew up at Brunswick, any body know where that was??

Hi Becky, Are you referring to the Meirs Lake bridge at the end of Lone Tree Road on Highway 59? I think it must have been a reconstruction job since 59 is the main road from Jasoncviille to Clay City and Brazil and U.S. 40 (the National Road). They perhaps was putting up the iron bridge. Don't remember any other kind of bridge being there. A wooden covered bridge could have been there. Sorry, I'm not that old. If I'm wrong, someone correct me. Please! I'd like to know too. Doris Louise Neal of Lewis Township

I am well aware that these programs provided jobs and help the men employed by them to feed and cloth their families.............My dad was in the CCC camp, I have his footlocker, and discharge papers. also had uncles that dug by hand what was then know as Lake Bennett, known today, as Wolly Hollow State Park, in Arkansas on the Wpa program, just did not know what the letters stood for. thanks for the info carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: JANET K WILLIAMS <JANETWILLIAMS@Prodigy.net> To: <INCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 4:18 PM Subject: Re: 1930's Bridge in Howesville > Very good reply!!!!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: emo <emo@silverback.gorilla.net> > To: <INCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 3:43 PM > Subject: Re: 1930's Bridge in Howesville > > > > WPA is for Works Progress Administration, a program to employee some of > the > > people who couldn't get regular work during the depression. They built a > > lot of public buildings, bridges, parks, etc. As soon as the economy > > improved they went back to work in the private sector. As a "public > > assistance" program it was nothing like Welfare in the late 20th Century. > > The people on WPA worked, were glad to get a job, feed their families and > > retain their personal honour. > > > > There was also another depression period program you may hear about, CCC > it > > is for Civilian Conservation Corps, it also put people to work. These > > programs were not a hand out, they were forms of employment. As with any > > group of "employees" there were some slackers but, the majority were hard > > working honest Americans. They belonged to my parents generation. The > > younger able bodied men of that generation also served their country > during > > WW2 (World War 2) and many of them gave their lives. > > > > And other programs instituted by FDR's administration in the mid 1930s. > > Sorry I just can not understand why our schools don't teach our countries > > history. > > > > EMO > > > > kmoore wrote: > > > > > > Can anyone out there please tell me what WPA stands for? I know it was > > > a public assistance program in the depression, but never knew what the > > > Letters WPA stood for. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Carolyn > > > kmoore@netusa1.net > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <KEVBEX@aol.com> > > > To: <INCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 8:06 AM > > > Subject: 1930's Bridge in Howesville > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > After a fun day of shopping with my mother yesterday, we were eating > > > our > > > > dinner and talking about the past (always a fun subject), and I > > > remembered > > > > that my grandfather, Noel Craig, worked on a bridge in Howesville > > > during the > > > > depression. We believe that it was part of the WPA work. > > > > > > > > Does anyone by chance know the name of the bridge that was built or > > > redone at > > > > that time? If so, was is being built from scratch or was it being > > > redone? > > > > I'd like to get any info I can on this bridge to include in my > > > grandfather's > > > > history. > > > > > > > > Thank you everyone! > > > > > > > > Becky > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== > > > > Visit the Clay County Indiana InGenWeb site at; > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~inclay/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== > > > To remove your address from this list visit; > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~inclay/list.htm > > > > > > ==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Clay County Indiana InGenWeb site at; > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~inclay/ > > > > > ==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== > Help support Rootsweb,become a member at; > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

Very good reply!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: emo <emo@silverback.gorilla.net> To: <INCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 3:43 PM Subject: Re: 1930's Bridge in Howesville > WPA is for Works Progress Administration, a program to employee some of the > people who couldn't get regular work during the depression. They built a > lot of public buildings, bridges, parks, etc. As soon as the economy > improved they went back to work in the private sector. As a "public > assistance" program it was nothing like Welfare in the late 20th Century. > The people on WPA worked, were glad to get a job, feed their families and > retain their personal honour. > > There was also another depression period program you may hear about, CCC it > is for Civilian Conservation Corps, it also put people to work. These > programs were not a hand out, they were forms of employment. As with any > group of "employees" there were some slackers but, the majority were hard > working honest Americans. They belonged to my parents generation. The > younger able bodied men of that generation also served their country during > WW2 (World War 2) and many of them gave their lives. > > And other programs instituted by FDR's administration in the mid 1930s. > Sorry I just can not understand why our schools don't teach our countries > history. > > EMO > > kmoore wrote: > > > > Can anyone out there please tell me what WPA stands for? I know it was > > a public assistance program in the depression, but never knew what the > > Letters WPA stood for. > > > > Thanks > > Carolyn > > kmoore@netusa1.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <KEVBEX@aol.com> > > To: <INCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 8:06 AM > > Subject: 1930's Bridge in Howesville > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > After a fun day of shopping with my mother yesterday, we were eating > > our > > > dinner and talking about the past (always a fun subject), and I > > remembered > > > that my grandfather, Noel Craig, worked on a bridge in Howesville > > during the > > > depression. We believe that it was part of the WPA work. > > > > > > Does anyone by chance know the name of the bridge that was built or > > redone at > > > that time? If so, was is being built from scratch or was it being > > redone? > > > I'd like to get any info I can on this bridge to include in my > > grandfather's > > > history. > > > > > > Thank you everyone! > > > > > > Becky > > > > > > > > > ==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== > > > Visit the Clay County Indiana InGenWeb site at; > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~inclay/ > > > > > > > > > > ==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== > > To remove your address from this list visit; > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~inclay/list.htm > > > ==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Clay County Indiana InGenWeb site at; > http://www.rootsweb.com/~inclay/ >

WPA is for Works Progress Administration, a program to employee some of the people who couldn't get regular work during the depression. They built a lot of public buildings, bridges, parks, etc. As soon as the economy improved they went back to work in the private sector. As a "public assistance" program it was nothing like Welfare in the late 20th Century. The people on WPA worked, were glad to get a job, feed their families and retain their personal honour. There was also another depression period program you may hear about, CCC it is for Civilian Conservation Corps, it also put people to work. These programs were not a hand out, they were forms of employment. As with any group of "employees" there were some slackers but, the majority were hard working honest Americans. They belonged to my parents generation. The younger able bodied men of that generation also served their country during WW2 (World War 2) and many of them gave their lives. And other programs instituted by FDR's administration in the mid 1930s. Sorry I just can not understand why our schools don't teach our countries history. EMO kmoore wrote: > > Can anyone out there please tell me what WPA stands for? I know it was > a public assistance program in the depression, but never knew what the > Letters WPA stood for. > > Thanks > Carolyn > kmoore@netusa1.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <KEVBEX@aol.com> > To: <INCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 8:06 AM > Subject: 1930's Bridge in Howesville > > > Hello everyone, > > > > After a fun day of shopping with my mother yesterday, we were eating > our > > dinner and talking about the past (always a fun subject), and I > remembered > > that my grandfather, Noel Craig, worked on a bridge in Howesville > during the > > depression. We believe that it was part of the WPA work. > > > > Does anyone by chance know the name of the bridge that was built or > redone at > > that time? If so, was is being built from scratch or was it being > redone? > > I'd like to get any info I can on this bridge to include in my > grandfather's > > history. > > > > Thank you everyone! > > > > Becky > > > > > > ==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Clay County Indiana InGenWeb site at; > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~inclay/ > > > > > > ==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== > To remove your address from this list visit; > http://www.rootsweb.com/~inclay/list.htm

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Can anyone out there please tell me what WPA stands for? I know it was a public assistance program in the depression, but never knew what the Letters WPA stood for. Thanks Carolyn kmoore@netusa1.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <KEVBEX@aol.com> To: <INCLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 8:06 AM Subject: 1930's Bridge in Howesville > Hello everyone, > > After a fun day of shopping with my mother yesterday, we were eating our > dinner and talking about the past (always a fun subject), and I remembered > that my grandfather, Noel Craig, worked on a bridge in Howesville during the > depression. We believe that it was part of the WPA work. > > Does anyone by chance know the name of the bridge that was built or redone at > that time? If so, was is being built from scratch or was it being redone? > I'd like to get any info I can on this bridge to include in my grandfather's > history. > > Thank you everyone! > > Becky > > > ==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Clay County Indiana InGenWeb site at; > http://www.rootsweb.com/~inclay/ > >

Hello everyone, After a fun day of shopping with my mother yesterday, we were eating our dinner and talking about the past (always a fun subject), and I remembered that my grandfather, Noel Craig, worked on a bridge in Howesville during the depression. We believe that it was part of the WPA work. Does anyone by chance know the name of the bridge that was built or redone at that time? If so, was is being built from scratch or was it being redone? I'd like to get any info I can on this bridge to include in my grandfather's history. Thank you everyone! Becky

Lisse, I printed out your query and will keep it in my files as I have a margaret McBride which married Robert Spear December 20, 1821 in Belmont Co., Ohio. I have no other information on Margaret's family so far. I have her birth as December 1796 in Ireland and death September 7, 1873. Margaret and Robert are buried at the Rehofeth Church Cemetery in Owen County, IN. I have not been to this cemetery as yet. My parents are from the Clay and Owen County, IN areas and I do get there as often as I can. I live east of Indianapolis now, but my sister lives in Putnam County and we do a lot of research in Clay County at the CCGS in Centerpoint. If you let me know where your family is buried along with names and any information you have to help me find the stones, I would be happy to get pictures for you when I get back down there if you don't find anyone else to get them for you. I am not certain how long it will take me to get them, but would be happy to help. If you have any information linking your McBride's to my grgrgrandmother Margaret, I would love to hear from you. I have a lot of info on the Spear line, but have not worked on the McBride line yet. A lot of the Spear information I have was graciously shared by my Aunt who still lives in Clay City and did work at the CCGS. Linda

Take LOTS of money....<VBG> >I will be in Indiana in a few weeks looking for depression glass and >antiques. Does anyone have any suggestions of areas to look in. Thanks >Cheryl

Does anyone have knowledge of Oscar A. Cole, b. 1860 to James A. & Sarah (Kirkpatrick) Cole? In 1879, he married Florence Farr/Forr, d/o Niles H. & Nannie (Mullis) Forr/Farr. They had one child, Ora A. Cole, b. 1879. Thanks, Kathy kscott@kdsi.net

If you are near the Indianapolis area, there is a place in Plainfield(Hendricks County) called Gilley's. It is right on US 40 on the west side of town. Plan on spending the whole afternoon there. Case after case after case of glass and other collectibles. Also, a small cafe, and home decor/crafts area. One of my favorite places to visit. Lori

Hi all I have a John Wesley Cole, b 3-4-1849 Greene County, In, d 4-3-1890 Moultrie County, Illinois married 8-14-1871 Moultrie County, Illinois Nancy Jane Watkins b, 10-24-1850 Indiana, d 2-1-1934 Sullivan, Moultrie County, Illinois Source: Watkins Research Papers, found in trunk of Laura Watkins Albers, compiled by Dorothy Mildred Craig Watkins The Cole were big land holder in Illinois per some of the letters written back and forth between the Ooley's and the Watkins and Sullivans and Coles Norma Ooley Herman

I will be in Indiana in a few weeks looking for depression glass and antiques. Does anyone have any suggestions of areas to look in. Thanks Cheryl

Brad Crabb sent me some land patent listings. For those who are interested, you can look at the actual patent at http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ Here are some census index listings: 1830 AIS-Coale William Coale Clay Co, p 265 (not clear which William this is, but think ours.) 1840 AIS-Clay Co, Cole 1840 COLE CHARLES Clay CountyIN 337Posey TownshipFederal Population ScheduleIN 1840 COLE JAMES Clay CountyIN 351Hanson TownshipFederal Population ScheduleIN None listed for Owen in 1840 1850 Clay Co Charles B Cole posey Twp, p 250-- VA Family William Cole Harrison Twp, p 257--NC Family John Coal Lewis Twp p 263--NC Family Richard Coal Posey Twp p 243-- 1850 Owen Co COLE, ARCHIBLE C. p 71 Clay Township COLE C. H. p 057Jennings Township COLE ELIZABETH p 14Wayne Township COLE JAMES p 133 Jefferson Township --NC Family COLE JOHN p 144 Marion Township COLE MATHEW Owen CountyIN 134 Marion Township--NC Family COLE THOMAS N.Owen CountyIN 071Clay Township Do some of these Coles belong to the VA family or do we have a completely different line of Coles here? I believe I saw a reference to Thomas Cole in the early Clay Co land records. -------------------------- The NC Cole Family 1. William COLE1 was born between 1770 and 1780 in North Carolina. His parents were Stephen and Sarah Cole. Stephen was b 1759 and died 1798. (Bev Carman). There is an article about Stephen in "The Heritage of Randolph County, North Carolina, vol. 1" It mentions that Stephen was on the 1779 tax list for Randolph County. Stephen Cole, was listed in the 1790 census for Randolph County, North Carolina. His will was probated in May, 1798. Perhaps this was a death bed will, because he only mentioned 3 children, while the census indicates there were more. Those mentioned were Martha, William and Stephen. William was left two lots of land in Lumberton, Robeson County, NC. There is no evidence that he ever lived there, it would be interesting to know how Stephen came by those two lots. By 1800, Stephen's widow, Sarah is listed as the head of household. (00110/01101). It has always seemed logical that William came from the same area as Nancy's family, since the ages of their children suggest they were married before Christian Luther and the rest of his family left for Indiana. All the children said they were born in Tennessee, but so far no clue has been found as to where in Tennessee, perhaps in part because there are no census records for Tennessee in 1810 and few in 1820. He appeared on the census in 1830 in Clay County, Indiana. They are listed as follows:021100001/ 00010001. The head of this household is age 60-70. The wife is age 50-60, born 1770-1780. It is barely possible that Nancy could have been this old. Remember that all of the ages for Christian's children are estimated. If this is William Cole in 1830, that would mean that three of the girls who are listed for the family were married by that time. The four boys are still at home. He resided , when he patented land, on 3 Mar 1830 in Clay County, Indiana. The land was located as the East 1/2 of the South East 1/4, Section 9, T 10 N, R6 W, containing 20 acres. He resided , when he patented land, on 8 Dec 1831 in Clay County, Indiana. The land was 80 acres, W 1/2 NW 1/4 Sec 10, T 10 N R 6 W. Andrew Jackson was president at that time. On 18 April 1835, William and Nancy Cole of Clay County sold land to Allen Comer, $50, West 1/2 SW 1/4 Section 10, Township 10 North, Range 6 West, A.D. acres. Witnesses were Eli Melton and William Comer. The wife, Nancy, was interviewed separately by Pearce Jones, on same day. Was this a fractional part? James and Zelphia Cole and Allen and Mary Comer appeared to sell this same land, except for a small piece of the tract, to John Long. I didn't find any mention of how James Cole and Zelphia had an interest in this land. He died after 18 Apr 1835 in Harrison Twp, Clay County, Indiana. He was still living when he sold his land in Sec 10, T10 N, R 6 W. Although the estate records for Clay County were destroyed, all of William's children are named as they transferred their interest in their father's land to their brother, Matthew, recorded in the land records.The land in question was that which William patented in 1830. Children listed were: --Allen Comer and wife Mary and John Cole, dated 24 December 1842, recorded 18 February 1843, Book E page 432. --James and Zilpha Cole, dated 15 September 1841, recorded 13 Sep 1842, Book E p 327. --Robert and Sarah Thorlton, dated 13 Aug 1842, recorded 13 Sep 1842 Book E p 239. --William and Elizabeth Cole, dated 15 Sep 1841, recorded 14 Sep 1842, Book E p 330. --Elizabeth Kitchen formerly Walker of Morgan Co, IN, dated 30 Aug 1850, rec 6 Sep 1850, Book H p 472. since her husband is not named, was he also dead? --Samuel and Rachel Lewis, dated 1 Jun 1844, rec 17 Oct 1844, Book F p 159. They were living in Independence Co, AR. He was married to Nancy LUTHER (daughter of Christian LUTHER and Allie SEWELL ) about 1808 in North Carolina. Nancy LUTHER was born about 1782 in Frederick County, Maryland. Christian and Allie Luther appear to have stayed in Maryland until the late 1780's. Remember this is an estimated date. I suspect she was actually not quite this old. She died in 1836 in Harrison Township, Clay County, Indiana. William COLE and Nancy LUTHER had the following children: +2 i. James W. COLE. +3 ii. Mary COLE. +4 iii. William Simpson COLE. +5 iv. Rachel COLE. +6 v. Elizabeth COLE. +7 vi. Sarah COLE. +8 vii. John COLE. +9 viii. Matthew Ralphard COLE.

Lou, Thank you. It looks like more folks are contributing bits and pieces which is going to make a much more clear picture for all of us. The secrets we are all seeking are out there, a little here and some more there. Mine appear to be mostly There, where ever that is! Keep up the good work. Mary

Mary, I am getting old and am not very well. If you see anything you feel would be useful, feel free to contribute to library. Don't be surprised if you find stuff I contributed 20 years ago. :) Regarding the Coles, I am trying to get folks who know about the Coles from VA to answer and help me straighten out all of them. The person i am in touch with from the William Cole line, which includes William Simpson Cole, was virtually paralyzed with fear of stepping on someone's toes or something, but I am finding the ones from VA lived to the north and west of the ones I am interested in. Will try and post the whole thing pretty soon. I am reading all the land records, plan to go up to about 1850.

Lou, Is this William Cole the father of William Simpson Cole? William Simpson Cole was married to Elizabeth Long Staley, my gg grandmother in April 6, 1876. When you get all these different folks sorted out, will you please place copies of your work in the CCGS Library? Mary

Charles B Cole patented land 8/1/39 in Sec 28, T12N, R7W. This is consistent with the land patented by William Cole, Jr. Now, does anyone know if William and Charles had a brother, Thomas Cole? am pretty sure I saw him mentioned in land records.