I have a court case of 1858 Owen Co, IN. in which John and Hugh Murphy were >sentenced to prison for manslaughter. They began serving their sentences of >10 yrs. in Dec 1858. I received copies of their admittance to prison and >their release, but haven't been able to find out what the charge for >manslaughter was about. Hugh names his brother Perry on his prison record and John's record says he's marr with 1 child and also names John's father as William Murphy. Hugh Murphy b.1830 was the s/o Thomas Murphy, and John Murphy b. abt 1834-39 was the s/o William Murphy. I think Thomas & William Murphy were brother-in-laws although unproven. I assume the manslaughter crime that Hugh and John Murphy were sent to prison for was the same crime-- but I've not been able to find anything on what the actual crime was about. Both men were sentenced from Owen Co, IN to 10yrs of prison. I have their prison records-- but it only says sentenced for manslaughter. John's father William Murphy lived in Putnam Co/1850 census-- and in Clay Co on the 1860 census-- 1870 Morgan-- 1880 Owen Co, IN. Thomas Murphy was listed on the 1840 & 1860 Putnam Co cen - 1870 Owen Co cen where he died after 1880 census. Thomas had also lived in Morgan Co at one time and some of the family lived in Monroe Co, IN at one time or another. Thomas Murphy and his sons are missing on the 1850 census. The trial may have only taken place in Owen Co-- and the actual crime committed somewhere else; as you can see the Murphy families moved around alot. Owen Co has no records on the trial only the fact that they were sent to prison from there. I welcome any ideas. Thomas was my gr gr gr grdfather. Can anyone help with this? Thanks, K Hembree

will try to look but not related so may not find anything... On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:21:25 -0800 "Bargerhuff Hembree" <philly@netusa1.net> writes: >I have a court case of 1858 Owen Co, IN. in which John and Hugh Murphy >were >>sentenced to prison for manslaughter. They began serving their >sentences of >>10 yrs. in Dec 1858. I received copies of their admittance to prison >and >>their release, but haven't been able to find out what the charge for >>manslaughter was about. Hugh names his brother Perry on his prison >record >and John's record says he's marr with 1 child and also names John's >father >as William Murphy. >Hugh Murphy b.1830 was the s/o Thomas Murphy, and John Murphy b. abt >1834-39 >was the s/o William Murphy. I think Thomas & William Murphy were >brother-in-laws although unproven. I assume the manslaughter crime >that Hugh >and John Murphy were sent to prison for was the same crime-- but I've >not >been able to find anything on what the actual crime was about. Both >men were >sentenced from Owen Co, IN to 10yrs of prison. I have their prison >records-- >but it only says sentenced for manslaughter. John's father William >Murphy >lived in Putnam Co/1850 census-- and in Clay Co on the 1860 census-- >1870 >Morgan-- 1880 Owen Co, IN. >Thomas Murphy was listed on the 1840 & 1860 Putnam Co cen - 1870 Owen >Co cen >where he died after 1880 census. Thomas had also lived in Morgan Co at >one >time and some of the family lived in Monroe Co, IN at one time or >another. >Thomas Murphy and his sons are missing on the 1850 census. The trial >may >have only taken place in Owen Co-- and the actual crime committed >somewhere >else; as you can see the Murphy families moved around alot. Owen Co >has no >records on the trial only the fact that they were sent to prison from >there. >I welcome any ideas. Thomas was my gr gr gr grdfather. Can anyone >help >with this? >Thanks, K Hembree > > > > >==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== >This list brought to you by Rootsweb,be sure to check us out at >http://www.rootsweb.com/ > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

yeah just tempting me aren't you.... ??? Are you in Indiana ??? if not I might make a stab at finding some info for you ... it is snowing and I can't go any where so after Supper oh excuse me after Dinner (in case you are royalty.) I might try to get you some stuff on email.. On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:37:24 EST JANLENB@aol.com writes: >I'm throwing out some more surnames for those of you who might be >reserching >the MILLER surname. >Robertson, Barr, Spencer, Gardner, Orr, Rossok, Holt, Loudermilk, >Came, >Roeschlein, >Deakins, Jackson, Harper, Hardesty, Wurl, Huter, Barnhart, Hoover, >Pritchett, >Modesitt >Watts, Carpenter, Gillfillan, Brown, Pence, Proctor & Borders. >If any of you have any above names and think it might fit with our >MILLER >fqmily I'd >love to hear from you. Jan Baldwin in OKC > > >==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== >Help support Rootsweb,become a member at; >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

No - it's for real I'm in OK and yes we have that white stuff here - very unusual for us tho. Do you belong to any of these names? Jan B. in OKC

this is a good idea also... On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:22:15 EST Mary2gard@aol.com writes: > >--part1_a1.11b2ae2.25c46db7_boundary >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >--part1_a1.11b2ae2.25c46db7_boundary >Content-Type: message/rfc822 >Content-Disposition: inline > >Return-Path: <ILCRAWFO-L-request@rootsweb.com> >Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com >[172.18.146.2]) by > air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v67_b1.21) with ESMTP; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 > 07:16:43 -0500 >Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com >[204.212.38.27]) by > rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v67_b1.21) with ESMTP; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 >07:16:29 > -0500 >Received: (from slist@localhost) > by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA17989; > Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:15:38 -0800 (PST) >Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:15:38 -0800 (PST) >Message-ID: <008f01bf6a52$592dcea0$4941abcd@default> >From: "gayle" <gayle1@wheatstate.com> >Old-To: "RJMRAZIK" <RJMRAZIK@email.msn.com>, <ILCRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> >References: <005c01bf696e$67767a00$485f1b3f@RJMRAZIK> >Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 06:14:08 -0600 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 >Subject: [ILCRAWFO] real info for census form! >Resent-Message-ID: <nrGA_D.A.8YE.pntk4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> >To: ILCRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-From: ILCRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: ILCRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <ILCRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/604 >X-Loop: ILCRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: ILCRAWFO-L-request@rootsweb.com > >We are hearing reminders about saving a copy of our census form--a >good >idea, but as genealogists, the information our families want to know >is >already going to be available, but the real thing we need to be >concerned >about is giving as much information as possible. > >That means women include your maiden name as part of your name. Mary >Smith >Schultz >If they ask for birth or marriage year, include month as well. Feb >1945 >If they ask for birth place don't say MO, say Osceola, St. Clair Co, >MO. >If you have twins, indicate it near their name. Mary (twin) Susie >(twin) >Under occupation write the normal one, and also include genealogist >teacher/genealogist > >Look it over, you will get the idea. Give them "more not less" > >Gayle > > > >--part1_a1.11b2ae2.25c46db7_boundary-- > > >==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== >Help support Rootsweb,become a member at; >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I'm throwing out some more surnames for those of you who might be reserching the MILLER surname. Robertson, Barr, Spencer, Gardner, Orr, Rossok, Holt, Loudermilk, Came, Roeschlein, Deakins, Jackson, Harper, Hardesty, Wurl, Huter, Barnhart, Hoover, Pritchett, Modesitt Watts, Carpenter, Gillfillan, Brown, Pence, Proctor & Borders. If any of you have any above names and think it might fit with our MILLER fqmily I'd love to hear from you. Jan Baldwin in OKC

--part1_a1.11b2ae2.25c46db7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_a1.11b2ae2.25c46db7_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <ILCRAWFO-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.2]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v67_b1.21) with ESMTP; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 07:16:43 -0500 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v67_b1.21) with ESMTP; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 07:16:29 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA17989; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:15:38 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:15:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <008f01bf6a52$592dcea0$4941abcd@default> From: "gayle" <gayle1@wheatstate.com> Old-To: "RJMRAZIK" <RJMRAZIK@email.msn.com>, <ILCRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> References: <005c01bf696e$67767a00$485f1b3f@RJMRAZIK> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 06:14:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: [ILCRAWFO] real info for census form! Resent-Message-ID: <nrGA_D.A.8YE.pntk4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: ILCRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: ILCRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: ILCRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <ILCRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/604 X-Loop: ILCRAWFO-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: ILCRAWFO-L-request@rootsweb.com We are hearing reminders about saving a copy of our census form--a good idea, but as genealogists, the information our families want to know is already going to be available, but the real thing we need to be concerned about is giving as much information as possible. That means women include your maiden name as part of your name. Mary Smith Schultz If they ask for birth or marriage year, include month as well. Feb 1945 If they ask for birth place don't say MO, say Osceola, St. Clair Co, MO. If you have twins, indicate it near their name. Mary (twin) Susie (twin) Under occupation write the normal one, and also include genealogist teacher/genealogist Look it over, you will get the idea. Give them "more not less" Gayle --part1_a1.11b2ae2.25c46db7_boundary--

this is true and probably the only thing they could do would be to make the person responsible for their own injuries.. On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:57:33 EST TSTOIKES@aol.com writes: >Let us hope that no one forgets that even with access it is still >private >land. And as such we should each respect that there are problems >associated >with us being on it. > If you bring a lunch or stuff to make rubbings with.... pack it out >with >you. > Don't bring children or pets with you unless it is okayed by the >owner and >you can arrange to keep an eye on them. > Remember to think safety. Look for snakes and logs half hidden in >the >grass or other things of that nature. (This hinges on insurance and >lawsuit >fears for the property owner) > I would say that most of us are pretty good about it. But it only >takes >one to sour a property owner on the rest of us. >terri > > >==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== >This list brought to you by Rootsweb,be sure to check us out at >http://www.rootsweb.com/ > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

do you have a John williams in your line -- John w Williams born 1836 On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 01:09:46 EST Valrikcal@aol.com writes: >Great idea! > >Valerie Williams > > >==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== >To remove your address from this list visit; >http://www.rootsweb.com/~inclay/list.htm > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

duh? this would be a great idea -- glad you reminded me... On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:39:54 EST Mary2gard@aol.com writes: >"The year 2000 is a Census Year. most of the census will be taken by >mail, so after you have filled out your census form why not make a >copy >of it and file it with your important papers. Then your family will >not >have to wait 70 years to learn about you." > >Submitted by >Sun2Moon11@aol.com >Extracted From: Marilyn105@aol.com on PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com > > >==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== >To remove your address from this list visit; >http://www.rootsweb.com/~inclay/list.htm > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

haven't read the bill yet but I am for gaining access to private cemeteries. On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:17:03 EST DIXIELJAW@aol.com writes: >Hi again, > Let me try this once more and this time PASTE IT...!!! >I sent this to all my friends and all my mailing lists, because, I >thought it >was important to us all... > > X-Message: #3 >Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:03:51 -0800 >From: "Edward A. Black, Sr." <w6uyf@earthlink.net> >To: WVKANAWH-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <3890EAF6.FE38D6E4@earthlink.net> >Subject: [WVKANAWH] [Fwd: {not a subscriber} Legislation] >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Ed & Phyllis Griffith wrote: > >> The West Virginia Legislature is again considering a bill (SB 90) >which >> should be of interest to all genealogists with ties to this state. >> >> The bill deals with public access to cemeteries located on >private >> land. The bill would ensure that family members and genealogists >could >> not be denied reasonable access to those burial sites and >cemeteries. >> >> You can download and read a copy of the bill which passed >the WV >Senate >> and was sent to the House of Delegates for consideration at: >> >> ftp://129.71.161.247/ftp-senate/SB90%20SUB1%20ENG.wpd >> >> If after reading the bill you are in agreement that it is a >good >bill, >> please send an email expressing your support to the members of the >House >> Judiciary Committee at: cglagola@mail.wvnet.edu and entering the >> delegates name in the subject line of the message. There has been >one >> recent change in the Committee membership, substitute Delegate Arley >> Johnson for Delegate John Pino. >> >> You can find the members of the committee at: >> >> http://www.legis.state.wv.us/House/hcom.html >> >> A similar message should also be sent to the Speaker of the >House >> Robert Kiss and the Majority and Minority leaders. >> >> This bill was also up in the Legislature last year but died >in a >> committee, we should urge the legislators to act quickly and get >the >> bill out before the rush at the end of the session. >> >> Those of you who actually live in WV should also email your >local >> Delegates. >> >> To keep track of the Bill go to: >> >> http://129.71.161.247/bill_status/2000/Actions_House.cfm >> >> and enter 90 in the box. >> >> Please pass this along to other interested individuals. >> >> Ed Griffith > >-- > > >==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== >To contact the INCLAY list owner,send a message to; >fred@claynet.com > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

what is it?? On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:48:09 EST DIXIELJAW@aol.com writes: >Hi everyone, > I've sent a copy of this to all of my friends and all of my >mailing >lists...I thought it was important to us all... > Dixie Lea in K.C. (Ks.) > > >==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== >To remove your address from this list visit; >http://www.rootsweb.com/~inclay/list.htm > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Let us hope that no one forgets that even with access it is still private land. And as such we should each respect that there are problems associated with us being on it. If you bring a lunch or stuff to make rubbings with.... pack it out with you. Don't bring children or pets with you unless it is okayed by the owner and you can arrange to keep an eye on them. Remember to think safety. Look for snakes and logs half hidden in the grass or other things of that nature. (This hinges on insurance and lawsuit fears for the property owner) I would say that most of us are pretty good about it. But it only takes one to sour a property owner on the rest of us. terri

Great Idea! Thanks terri

Great idea! Valerie Williams

"The year 2000 is a Census Year. most of the census will be taken by mail, so after you have filled out your census form why not make a copy of it and file it with your important papers. Then your family will not have to wait 70 years to learn about you." Submitted by Sun2Moon11@aol.com Extracted From: Marilyn105@aol.com on PABRADFO-L@rootsweb.com

Hi again, Let me try this once more and this time PASTE IT...!!! I sent this to all my friends and all my mailing lists, because, I thought it was important to us all... X-Message: #3 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:03:51 -0800 From: "Edward A. Black, Sr." <w6uyf@earthlink.net> To: WVKANAWH-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <3890EAF6.FE38D6E4@earthlink.net> Subject: [WVKANAWH] [Fwd: {not a subscriber} Legislation] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed & Phyllis Griffith wrote: > The West Virginia Legislature is again considering a bill (SB 90) which > should be of interest to all genealogists with ties to this state. > > The bill deals with public access to cemeteries located on private > land. The bill would ensure that family members and genealogists could > not be denied reasonable access to those burial sites and cemeteries. > > You can download and read a copy of the bill which passed the WV Senate > and was sent to the House of Delegates for consideration at: > > ftp://129.71.161.247/ftp-senate/SB90%20SUB1%20ENG.wpd > > If after reading the bill you are in agreement that it is a good bill, > please send an email expressing your support to the members of the House > Judiciary Committee at: cglagola@mail.wvnet.edu and entering the > delegates name in the subject line of the message. There has been one > recent change in the Committee membership, substitute Delegate Arley > Johnson for Delegate John Pino. > > You can find the members of the committee at: > > http://www.legis.state.wv.us/House/hcom.html > > A similar message should also be sent to the Speaker of the House > Robert Kiss and the Majority and Minority leaders. > > This bill was also up in the Legislature last year but died in a > committee, we should urge the legislators to act quickly and get the > bill out before the rush at the end of the session. > > Those of you who actually live in WV should also email your local > Delegates. > > To keep track of the Bill go to: > > http://129.71.161.247/bill_status/2000/Actions_House.cfm > > and enter 90 in the box. > > Please pass this along to other interested individuals. > > Ed Griffith --

Hi everyone, I've sent a copy of this to all of my friends and all of my mailing lists...I thought it was important to us all... Dixie Lea in K.C. (Ks.)

are you really in oklahoma? On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:08:38 EST JANLENB@aol.com writes: >Mary - You don't know how thankful I am to hear you say the church did >NOT >burn. I've had family that's attended that church for years and I'd >never >heard of it but then I've not been back in awhile except for short >visits. I >thought I was cracking up ;-) boy am I glad I'm not. I guess I'll just >have to >make a trip back there and go thru the book. I certainly do appreciate >the >help you've been to us out-of -state people. Thanks - Jan Baldwin in >OKC > > >==== INCLAY Mailing List ==== >Visit the Clay County Indiana InGenWeb site at; >http://www.rootsweb.com/~inclay/ > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Mary - You don't know how thankful I am to hear you say the church did NOT burn. I've had family that's attended that church for years and I'd never heard of it but then I've not been back in awhile except for short visits. I thought I was cracking up ;-) boy am I glad I'm not. I guess I'll just have to make a trip back there and go thru the book. I certainly do appreciate the help you've been to us out-of -state people. Thanks - Jan Baldwin in OKC