This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Jh.2ADI/1377.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: You may have this info, but just in case. In the 1880 census (this time for sure) the family is still in Brown county, Washington township, ED 20, page 41 and is headed by Ransom, has two ages listed 42 and 43, farmer born in Ind and both parents in Ky, - his wife, Lydia (could something have happened to Elizabeth?), 46, keeping house, born in Indiana with both parents in Ky, - his son Franklin, laborer, Ind, - his son Gilmore, 17, laborer, Ind, - his daughter Susan, 15, Ind, and his son Marion, 13, Ind. From the info in the two censuses I would say he was most likely born in 1867 but where in Ind? Good luck. Don