This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Crouch / Smith /Carter Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.indiana.counties.bartholomew/97.487.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Elsie... We have a Susan Kizzias who married Benjamin Crouch,( no children) and married second to Enoch Jones Smith (their daughter, Pricilla Josephine was my ggrandmother) Susan then married William Madison "Matt" Carter. Is our Susan and Your Lavina the same person? Our Susan had 5 children by Smith and 4 by Carter. She was born May 7, 1843 in Clay co.,Indiana..died April 15, 1921 in Velma, Stephens co., Okla. is buried in the Velma cemetery.... Would like to exchange infro... we have a Photo of her but not one of Crouch or Smith. Please contact me at my e-mail address.. ( sallydavis05@charter.net ) Thanks and hope to hear from you..... Wilma F.