This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lh.2ADE/2094 Message Board Post: Hi fellow researchers: I’m a very active genealogist just like you are. In my daily work I use the FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) to request records from all areas of local, state and federal agencies, courts, etc. The FOIA is a tool that is available to everyone. I have discovered that it works GREAT for obtaining records that are buried in courthouses and other agencies where you get the standard answer “you have to come into the office and look it up yourself.” Wrong. But you have to know where to send it, you have to have the right form, properly worded letter, you have to know what type of information they need to find/retrieve what you are looking for. You need the statutes/codes/act for the specific state you are requesting the info from. You can’t just send in a generic "find this" request. >From one probate court FOIA request, I got 84 pages and two weeks later, 124 more pages. All stuff they copied from microfiche and very old court records. At $ .10 per page. Some of these records went back to 1838! I’ll send you the form, the specific request letter, what you need to send in terms of State codes/statutes, several examples from my own successful requests, suggestions on specifics, if you have them, or if not, where and how to find them. I have compiled a chart of each State’s statutes/codes that you must have to format the request form to your particular State. FOIA is a Title 5 National Act, but this pertains to, for instance, the Department of Justice, FBI, etc., i.e., federal agency requests. Public records are available the same way through each State, but each State has it’s own “FOIA” codes. It can be confusing. The FOIA is available for use in any state for any public record. It does not replace the researcher, but for those of us who have been unable to get to an out of town location or to contact or afford a researcher it's great. My requests have gotten my gggrandfather's household inventory, office contents incl. a list of law books and furniture, guardianship docs for my ggrand uncles and aunts, a (long) list of people that owed him money for mortgages he held, how much, when they were due, how much of a household allowance the Estate had my gggrandmother on for the next 5 years! My mom’s medical records, my grandmother’s medical records, death certificates for numerous relatives in the states and back to Europe. My email and paypal are both [email protected] I will be glad to help anyone with any additional information or reformatting the forms for other states, other data requests, etc. Just send me an email. For the package of information, I request $6.58 for paper, envelope, copying and postage costs. (I had no idea this would be responded to in such huge numbers (!!) and hadn’t planned on it being 20 pages either!) Check [to Kathy Lawler], ca! sh, Paypal (same as email), whatever is easiest for you. If you’d like this information, send your address and $6.58 to Genealogy Princess, 20757 Camden Square, #210, Lathrup Village, MI 48076. I will send you the information (it’s 20 pages) the very day I receive your address in the mail. Thanks! Kathy Lawler Questions to the email, I’ll respond right away. It’s great to actually get the stuff you need to move forward with your research!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Harlan, Brown, Van Nuys, Poarch, Thompson, Hoelscher, Bowermaster, Salmon, Lingemann, Classification: Biography Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lh.2ADE/2093 Message Board Post: Surnames in this biography are: Harlan, Brown, Van Nuys, Poarch, Thompson, Hoelscher, Bowermaster, Salmon, Lingemann, DENVER C. HARLAN of Richmond is senior member of the law firm Harlan & Brown, with offices in the First National Bank Building at Richmond. He represents a very old family of Eastern Indiana and was born at Bethel in this state March 6, 1886. His parents, Milton M. and Sarah J. (Van Nuys) Harlan, were both born in Wayne County, Indiana. His paternal grandparents were Joseph G. and Mary (Poarch) Harlan, the former a native of Wayne County, Indiana, and the latter of New Jersey. Joseph G. Harlan was a son of Elihu Harlan, a native of Kentucky, who arrived in Indiana prior to 1818. The maternal grandparents were William and Celina (Thompson) Van Nuys, who came to Wayne County about 1815. Joseph G. Harlan entered a tract of Government land, Milton M. Harlan died in 1930, and his wife died in 1919. Denver C. Harlan attended district schools while a boy on the farm, graduated Bachelor of Science from Valparaiso University in 1906 and too! k his Bachelor of Arts degree at the University of Indiana, at Bloomington, in 1909. He attended the Indiana Law School, was admitted to the bar in 1911, and has since practiced at Richmond. For two years he was associated in practice with G. H. Hoelscher, and since February, 1923, his partner has been Clarence M. Brown. Mr. Harlan served five years as county attorney of Wayne County and for two terms was a member of the Indiana State Senate. In 1929 he was president pro tern of the Senate and he gave a great deal of study and effort to his legislative duties. Mr. Harlan married April 30, 1914, Laverne M. Bowermaster, who was born at Milton in Wayne County, daughter of Amos Caldwell. They have one son, John Marshall. Mr. Harlan in 1910 married Pauline M. Salmon, who was born at Brownsburg, Indiana, daughter of Jerry N. and Minnie (Lingemann) Salmon. She died in March, 1911. Mr. Harlan is a Republican, a member of the Christian Church, of which one of his grandfathers was a ! minister, and is affiliated with the Masonic fraternity, Independent Order of Odd Fellows and B. P. 0. Elks. His hobby is raising flowers and playing golf, and he is a charter member of the Royal Golf Club of America, the Richmond Country Club, and a charter member of the Kiwanis Club of Richmond, having served as president of the Kiwanis Club in 1930.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lh.2ADE/2092 Message Board Post: Looking for Walter Buress son of Will and Evie Shaw Buress. Walter would be in his early 70!s. F. Anderson Buress

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: VAUGHN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lh.2ADE/2091 Message Board Post: Trying to locate German Township where my GGGrandfather William Vaughn was suppose to of died approx 1847, If anyone has info regarding this, I would appreciate it very much. Thank you. Lillie Gaul [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Outland, Copeland, Waltz, Kepler, Dille, Davis, Parker, Classification: Biography Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lh.2ADE/2090 Message Board Post: This book has no cover, and no index, and no author. I bought it on Ebay; it just has the insides, but it is full of Indiana biographies. I am not researching this family, just thought I would share. I do not know anymore about these families or these surnames. NOTE: I don’t know if there is any additional mention of this family in the book, it has no index. I do not want to sell this book. I am typing the biographies from it. Typed by Lora Radiches: Surnames in this biography are: Outland, Copeland, Waltz, Kepler, Dille, Davis, Parker, EUGENE LEE OUTLAND, principal of high school at Centerville, Wayne County, is the son of a veteran educator of Eastern Indiana, Joseph W. Outland, now retired. Joseph W. Outland was born in North Carolina, in 1861, and in 1863 his parents, David and Margaret (Copeland) Outland, came to Indiana and settled on a farm near Greenfield. Joseph W. Outland attended public schools, the Spiceland Academy, the Richmond Normal School, Butler College and Indiana State Normal at Terre Haute. In the meantime he began teaching, at the age of twenty, worked in district schools for three years in Hancock County, and in Wayne County was principal of the school at Greens Fork four years, at Webster seven years and at Milton five years. In Richmond he was principal of the Sebastopol schools for thirteen years. He gave up active schoolwork in 1924 and makes his home in the modern residence he built at 400 Lincoln Street. Joseph W. Outland married, in 1890, Miss Virgie M. Waltz, who was born at G! reens Fork, Indiana, daughter of Lee and Amanda (Kepler) Waltz. She died in January, 1920, leaving two children, Eugene Lee and Lloyd, the latter a student in Earlham College. Joseph W. Outland in 1923 married Anna B. Dille, who was born in Miami County, Ohio, and was the widow of Amos C. Dille, a machinist and farmer. Mrs. Outland attended school at Fountain City, was a student in Earlham College, the Terre Haute State Normal, the Teachers College at Indianapolis, and also has an interesting record as an educator, having taught four years in New Garden Township, four years in Fountain City, one year at Abington, one year in Greens Fork and two years at Williamsburg. Later she taught for five years in the public schools of Richmond. She is a member of the Ex-Teachers Club and the Current Events Club, the W. C. T. U. and is a member of the Central Methodist Episcopal Church. Joseph W. Outland is a member of the Society of Friends. He votes independently and is a member of the! Independent Order of Odd Fellows. Eugene Lee Outland was born at Greens Fork in Wayne County, Indiana, June 13, 1896, and attended public schools in the different localities where his father was principal of schools. He is an A. B. graduate of Earlham College at Richmond and in 1924 was given the Master of Arts degree at the University of Chicago. His first work as a teacher was done in the schools of Orange in Fayette County. For six years he was principal of schools at Economy, Indiana, and since 1927 has been principal of the Center Township High School at Centerville. Mr. Outland in September, 1918, enlisted as a private and was made band sergeant in the Seventy-second Field Artillery at Camp Taylor, Louisville, Kentucky, later was at Camp Knox and received his honorable discharge in February, 1919. He married, June 10, 1920, Miss Iva S. Davis, who was born at Columbus, Indiana, daughter of Lewis E. and Cora Alice (Parker) Davis. They have one daughter, Virginia Lee, bo! rn June 10, 1928. Mr. Outland is a member of the Christian Church, is an independent in politics, belongs to the Masonic fraternity and the Eastern Star, the Knights of Pythias, the American Legion and is a member of the Indiana and County Federation of Teachers. He is eligible to membership in the Sons of the American Revolution.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lawler, Lalor, Mendenhall, Bartlett, Sumner, Hatch, Gilman, Trow, Caldwell, Badger, Charles, Ludiker Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lh.2ADE/2089 Message Board Post: Dear fellow researchers: First, this is not spam or advertising, honest, I will give you my home telephone number if you want to contact me. I am a genealogist just like you are. I have figured out a way to get records that you can do from home that actually will get you somewhere! In my every day professional work I use the FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) to acquire records from all areas. The FOIA is a tool that is available to all Americans. The request is free. But you have to know where to send it, you have to have the right request form, a properly worded letter, you have to know what type of information they need to get you what you are looking for. While you cannot just send in a generic "find this" request, using the proper request the proper forms and properly worded legal letter you will result in getting documentation you are seeking. I received 84 pages the first probate request and two weeks later received an additional 124 pages of documentation from the same request. Some of these records went back to 1838. I will send you the form, the request letter, what you need to send them in terms of specifics, if you have them, or if not, where and how to find them. I have compiled a list of each State’s statutes that you will need to format the request form for your particular State. I have included some specific searching directions and examples that may help you. Obtaining information and documentation is what the Freedom of Information Act is for! But you have to know how and where to use it. What specific State statute to request it under. And the records have to exist. The FOIA is available for use in any state for any public record. It does not, not replace the researcher, but for those of us who have been unable to physically get to an out of town location or to contact an active researcher it's great. As a result of my request I have my gggrandfather's entire household inventory, his entire office contents down to the list of law books and furniture he owned, the guardianship papers for all of my ggrand uncles and aunts, I have a (long) list of people that owed him money for mortgages he held, how much, when they were due, how much of an allowance the Estate had my gggrandmother on for the next 5 years! Again, this is just one tool. My email is [email protected] I will be glad to help anyone with any additional information or reformatting the forms for other states, other data requests, etc. and will send a paper for that. I am requesting a $5.00 fee paper and copying costs. I had no idea this would be responded to in such huge numbers and I can’t afford that much copying. So, send me a self-addressed stamped envelope with $1.08 postage on it to Genealogy Princess, 20757 Camden Square, #210, Lathrup Village, MI 48076. I will send you the information (it’s 20 pages) the day I receive the envelope. A 6X9 envelope works best, or a 5 X 7. I also have just signed up for Paypal. My Paypal information is [email protected] (checking account). The amount is $6.08. I will send the information to you the instant I receive your address in the notification. Do me a favor and email me to the address above and let me know if you’re going to be requesting the info so that I can have copies prepared. In the meantime, start searching for as many specifics as you can get. This is not "send me the death certificate of...." This is "I searched the probate database for (county) and found that my ggrandfather's estate is in your records. It is between the years XXXX and XXXX." Then there is more legal lingo, etc. etc.. Anyway, I am sorry this post is so long. Also, please advise anyone else you think may be interested in this information in other lists. Thanks! Kathy Lawler

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Flanagans Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lh.2ADE/180.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry: Our line does not have any Tuny Flanagan. Ours is Philip & Elizabeth Flanagan; Isaac Wamper and Martha Jane Flanagan; Roy Emory and Cornelia and then my dad, Isaac Wamper and Martha W. Flanagan. Philip was born 1801 in NC, but the rest lived in ChurchHill TN. My dad then moved to Avon Indiana and married mother here. Dad is 93 and lives in CA now with my sis. Mother died in 1994. I do not have anyone by John L. at Avon.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lh.2ADE/180.1.1 Message Board Post: I am also a Flannigan descendant. Living in Indiana. I have a question for you. I am doing our line and I have a John L. Flannigan who married Lillian. They supposively came here from Arkansas. His brother in Arkansas was a minister. They had one child their named Tuny. Then other children here in Indiana. If you could give me any advice on finding this line I would appreciate it greatly. THank you Lishelle

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Flanagan, Flanigan Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lh.2ADE/180.1 Message Board Post: My gr.gr.grandfather, Philip Flanigan, was married to an Ellen Dunn as his second wife. His first wife was Elizabeth McLaughlin; 13 kids; Ellen Dunn and then Parthana Hunter, 3d wife. They lived in Anderson Co. TN when he was married to Parthana, but originated in Lincoln Co. NC (1801) and probably died about 1890. He was married to Ellen in 1867. I live in Indiana, but The Flanagans go back 50 years or more to ChurchHill, TN, also, and are buried there. We can't find Philip's death or birth certificates and he spelled his name various ways due to inability to read or write.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CONDON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lh.2ADE/1972.1 Message Board Post: Could someone look up the Condon name in the state of MD for anything on a Perry Condon or Perry Green Condon, as born in MD in the year 1800.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lh.2ADE/12.1 Message Board Post: Were you able to get any information on Catharine Schenck Denise and Arthur Cox. I have a little information but not much.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mohr, Hawkins, Klipsch, Pruitt, Greenlee, Murry, Yates. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lh.2ADE/501.1 Message Board Post: Re: your query concerning Mary Hawkins. Her parents are Jasper N Hawkins and Hannah A. Klipsch. I believe that Hannah's family can be found, for instance, in the Family- Search Ancestral File database (AFN; GQ19-41), and in the Klipsch genealogy by Urbahns and Tretter, privately printed. Hannah's father is Carl/Charles Klipsch an immigrant from Germany, and her mother is Sarah Jane Thornell. Now maybe you can help me with the descendants of Fred Mohr and Mary Hawkins. I have the names of their 5(?) children and their spouses: Charles P b 1899 mar Mabel Pruit 1923. Fred W b 1902 mar 1929 Rosamond Greenlee Wilbur Edward b 1905 mar Irma Frances Murry 1935. Mildred Agnes b 1908 d 1908. Henry Norton b 1909 mar 1929 Effie Yates. Am I correct so far? Best wishes. Sue

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lh.2ADE/2088 Message Board Post: I have spent many years and thousands of hours researching the Dye family. My daughter has prepared a booklet of "Just Dye Facts," which has over ten thousand entries, and over 350 pages of birth, death and marriage dates from each of the 50 states, DC, and British Columbia.The information is in a loose leaf binder, so you may add your own notes If interested, e-mail me at [email protected]

Thank the Military - National Military Appreciation Month If you are so inclined, visit the Department of Defense web page below and sign a brief message thanking the men and women of the U.S. military services for defending our freedom. The compiled list of names will be sent out to our soldiers at the end of the month. So far, there are only about 1,000,000 names. What a shame. National Military Appreciation Month (please pass it on to your email friends) takes 10 seconds...literally Lets see if we can make it a cool 2 million! >National Military Appreciation Month</A>

Success story I want to thank everyone who has responded to my listings for Jane (Jennie) DAVIS, SMITH, LEWIS b. 1853 in KY. In 1880 she is living in Hamilton Township, Jackson Co., Indiana. My Grandfather Raymond Oliver Smith was born in Jonesville,Bartholomew County, Indiana. I located Jane Lewis living with Peter and Mary Glouse in the 1920 Cesnus of Indianapolis, Center Township, Marion County, Indiana in 1920. Jane is listed as sister-in-law. Thanks again Wanda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Goeller Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lh.2ADE/1421.1 Message Board Post: Mary, I believe the Harry L. Goeller whose background you are researching is a brother to my grandfather, George L. Goeller who was born in Dayton, Ohio. I too am searching for more information on our ancestors. According to records in my possession there were 4 children born to William Frederick and Alice Gilbert Goeller. Your Harry and my George were among them.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Swisher Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lh.2ADE/2087 Message Board Post: I am researching Jesse SWISHER, b. 1774 in PA, moved to Wayne Co., then to Batholemew Co., later to Warren Co., Indiana. He is the son of Abraham SWISHER. Jesse married Barbary Jane WORTS (WERTZ) in 1800. I have just moved to Germany, and thought this would be an ideal time to gather some new data from local sources. Does anyone have any information or documents, such as marraige records or land records on the SWISHER family? Thanks, Mike Wood

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Davis, Smith, Lewis Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lh.2ADE/2086 Message Board Post: Success story I want to thank everyone who has responded to my listings for Jane (Jennie) DAVIS, SMITH, LEWIS b. 1853 in KY. In 1880 she is living in Hamilton Township, Jackson Co., Indiana. My Grandfather Raymond Oliver Smith was born in Jonesville,Bartholomew County, Indiana. I located Jane Lewis living with Peter and Mary Glouse in the 1920 Cesnus of Indianapolis, Center Township, Marion County, Indiana in 1920. Jane is listed as sister-in-law. Thanks again Wanda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lh.2ADE/290.1.1 Message Board Post: I am working on updating the Stainbrook history. Reply to [email protected] I will try to answer questions and hope you can update your line. Margaret Stainbrook

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lh.2ADE/766.1 Message Board Post: Hi Bette, I have been searching for awhile, and I was amazed to find your message. John Lambert Overman (Sutton) was born July 3, 1829, and died November 5, 1895. He married Martha McClaskey, daughter of James McClaskey and Lavisa Collier. John Lambert Overman was my great-great-grandfather. His son, Joseph Overman was my mother's grandfather. Her name is Ruby JoAnn Huebner. Joseph Overman was the father of my mothers' Mother, Alta Overman, and My Aunt Ida Lee Morris. They were twins. I have a bible with names and dates that was left to me by my great grandfather, it includes, Sutton, Huebner, Cook, McClaskey, Overman. I hope to hear from you soon, Sharlyn