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    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] Germans to America Look-Ups--Ramblings
    2. Eugene M. Wengert
    3. Passenger's Name: Katharine Woehr Age: 25 Gender: Female Occupation: None Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: Aug. 13, 1881 Final Destination: USA Ship's Name: Elbe Manifest ID Number: 36250 Port of Embarkation: Bremen Passenger's Name: Friedr. Woehr Age: 24 Gender: Female Occupation: None Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: Aug. 13, 1881 Final Destination: USA Ship's Name: Elbe Manifest ID Number: 36250 Port of Embarkation: Bremen Glad to help. Gene Gene Wengert Professor of Wood Processing, Emeritus Univ of Wisconsin-Madison & President The WoodDoctor's Rx, LLC 2872 Charleston Drive, Madison, WI 53711-6502 608-271-4441 Preferred e-mail: WoodDoc@Badger.Alumni.Wisc.edu

    02/19/2001 12:07:06
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] Help Downloading File Portion to Family Tree Maker.
    2. iamcathy
    3. Thank you Gary, Harry, Gene and Susan. The mission was a success! Cathy

    02/18/2001 01:26:23
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] Help Downloading File Portion to Family Tree Maker.
    2. In a message dated 2/18/01 3:03:45 PM US Eastern Standard Time, iamcathy@email.msn.com writes: << Good afternoon list. I have found some information that applies to my family tree but it is within a very large gedcom file. I managed to download the gedcom to a separate Family Tree file, but how do I incorporate just the information I want into my Family Tree Maker file? Any help is greatly appreciated. Cathy >> Hello Cathy, I have Family TreeMaker of Windows 6.0. You can use Family Tree Maker to manipulate that gedcom to extract just the data you want. NOTE: Begin back backing up your current FTM master database and its backup. Mine store as .FTW and .FBK files. 1) Open the gedcom you downloaded and save it as an FTM file. Your original family file will be saved during this process. I would save the downloaded gedcom and the newly created FTM file based on it in a folder by itself. 2) Then go into your Report form in FTM and choose a Custom Report format. 3) With this Custom Report format, right click your mouse button and select Individuals to Include. You can select only the people you want to see in the report individually or by selecting one person and then choosing all descendants or ancestors or both. Review your report to make sure you've included only the individuals you wanted to include. 4) Once the report rebuilds itself, you can export only those people in that report to their own gedcom or FTM file by selecting the "File" menu option and then the "Copy/Export Individuals in Report." Make sure to use a new filename and store this smaller file separate from you own master database. 5) Now you can open this new fil and review it again in FTM database format. or ... 6) Re-open your own original FTM file and merge your newly crreated file into it. Once you get the hang of this procedure, it really works quite nicely. I use this custom report technique to extract specific lines from my master database for relatives who want limited gedcom data on that line. Good Luck!! Have a great day! :-) Gary Rice Roanoke, Indiana <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~frederickrice/">Frederick Rice Family Web Site</A> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~frederickrice/ <A HREF="http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=frederickr ice">Frederick Rice Family WorldConnect database</A> http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=frederickrice (\( )/) '(o o)' ) ( (o o) ~

    02/18/2001 12:49:56
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] Germans to America Look-Ups--Ramblings
    2. Elizabeth Mowry
    3. Eugene M. Wengert wrote: > > I only have 1850 to 1888 > > At 08:20 PM 2/7/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Would you look for J. Eckmann, C.F. Ackman 34 a Goldsmith, E. Ackman 36, W. > >Ackman 6 - they came in 1820 supposedly. > > > >Marge Kientz > >Thanks again > > > > Gene Wengert > Professor of Wood Processing, Emeritus > Univ of Wisconsin-Madison > & > President > The WoodDoctor's Rx, LLC > 2872 Charleston Drive, Madison, WI 53711-6502 > 608-271-4441 > Preferred e-mail: WoodDoc@Badger.Alumni.Wisc.edu Would you have time to look up my Grandparents? Frederick Woehr and Katherine Fredericks Woehr. They arrived in the US in August 1881 and moved to Ft. Wayne. They were naturalized in Ft. Wayne in 1888. Thank you, Betsy Woehr Mowry emowry@net-link.net

    02/18/2001 12:18:01
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] Help Downloading File Portion to Family Tree Maker; GERMANS T...
    2. I have been looking for my g-grandmother. She came here from Germany. I don't know when or where for sure. Her name was Barbra Newberger & I think she came from somewhere around Heidelberg. The spelling came from my grandmother's application for marriage. I hope you have good luck with my name. I wait to hear from you. Many thanks.

    02/18/2001 10:54:25
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] Help Downloading File Portion to Family Tree Maker; GERMANS TO AMERICA
    2. Eugene M. Wengert
    3. Cathy, There is a MERGE function under teh FILE heading. however, make sure that you back up your orignal file (not just the normal FTM back-up, but make a separate file name; do not use the back-up file in this operation). The problme will be that FTM can merge those names and dates that seem to match perfectly, but the others it goes thorugh and lets you decide. unfortunately, if you go through and merge a husband, it will give the wife two husbands (the same name) and you will ahve to go through and merge these too. So, be prepared for a long arduous process. Alternatively, you can take the GEDCOM you have and make it into a FTM file by itslef and then make smaller trees (like asn outlien descendant tree and copy this tree to a 3rd file and then merge this smaller file with your original file. being smaller, it is muc easier to handle (I think). Gene P.S. I am still doing GERMANS TO AMERICA look-ups. I only received 14 requests so far!! Gene Wengert Professor of Wood Processing, Emeritus Univ of Wisconsin-Madison & President The WoodDoctor's Rx, LLC 2872 Charleston Drive, Madison, WI 53711-6502 608-271-4441 Preferred e-mail: WoodDoc@Badger.Alumni.Wisc.edu

    02/18/2001 07:37:17
    1. [INALLEN-L] Help Downloading File Portion to Family Tree Maker.
    2. iamcathy
    3. Good afternoon list. I have found some information that applies to my family tree but it is within a very large gedcom file. I managed to download the gedcom to a separate Family Tree file, but how do I incorporate just the information I want into my Family Tree Maker file? Any help is greatly appreciated. Cathy

    02/18/2001 05:02:56
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS
    2. Patricia Bogel
    3. Thanks for the info on the Raneys. Well, that list will take me a while. I'll get back to you after I've had a chance to look later. Since the baptisms and marriages aren't indexed it will take longer. The memberships is in alpha order but that's all. Pat SNUGAZA@aol.com wrote: > > Thank you Pat, > William C. Raney and Elsie Maud Kimmel were my grandparents. His > brother, Theodore S. Raney, and her sister, Mae C. Kimmel were married in > Wayne St. M.E. Church five months earlier. The Mrs. Theodore Raney you knew > was the 2nd wife of Theodore, following Mae's death in 1947. Theodore's 2nd > wife was a 1st cousin of his 1st wife Mae. Her maiden name was Elva Ione > Connett but she was also on her 2nd marriage, following the passing of her > 1st husband, Ernest Emrich, who preceded her in death by over 65 years. My > Great Aunt Elva passed away in 1983 at the grand age of 91. > As to specific names and dates for lookups in the Wayne St. M.E. > Church records, the birth years for the above mentioned individuals for > possible baptismal records are as follows: > William C. Raney b. 1885 > Theodore S. Raney b.1883 > Elsie M. Kimmel b.1889 > Mae C. Kimmel b. 1886 > There was also Elsie Raney b. 1889 who married (m.1909) Henry Rapp b. 1885 > > One generation further back are: > John Raney (b. Scotland) who married (m.1882) Emma Elizabeth Reed (b.1865) > Newton Kimmel (b.1860) who married (m.1884) Catherine McNair (b. 1865) > > Aunts, Uncles, and a few of the cousins with possible Wayne St. M.E. Church > ties for which baptismal (post 1859) and/or marriage records (post 1863) > might exist include: > > William George Pool who married (m. 1866) Mary Ann Mathias > James Thomas Pool who married (m. 1865) Eva Elizabeth Hazzard > Francis Pool (b. 1867) who married (m. 1893) Flora B. Houghton (b. 1869) > William J. Pool (b. 1870) who married (m. 1896) Mary Hettie Welbaum (b. 1865) > Lewis Rhodes Pool (b. 1872) who married (m. 1899) Bertha Joker (b. 1878) > Viola Pool (b. 1877) > Flora M. Pool (b. 1880) > Newton A. Pool (b. 1883) > Mary Susan McNair (b. 1859) who married (m. 1878) Andrew Dallas Branstrator > John N. McNair (b. abt 1862) > Stella Ann Kimmel (b. 1862) who married (m. 1887) David S, Connett > Nancy Kimmel (b. 1864) > William A. Kimmel (b. 1866) > Milo Charles Kimmel ( b. 1869) > Sarah Catherine (Kate) Kimmel (b. 1872) who married (m. 1895) William Wiebke > Bishop S. Kimmel (b. 1876) who married (m. 1898) Fannie Wass > Ida May Kimmel (b. 1879) who married (m. 1904) Eugene Joy > > Any info would be appreciated. > > Thanks again, > > Rich Raney

    02/17/2001 12:04:40
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS
    2. Thank you Pat, William C. Raney and Elsie Maud Kimmel were my grandparents. His brother, Theodore S. Raney, and her sister, Mae C. Kimmel were married in Wayne St. M.E. Church five months earlier. The Mrs. Theodore Raney you knew was the 2nd wife of Theodore, following Mae's death in 1947. Theodore's 2nd wife was a 1st cousin of his 1st wife Mae. Her maiden name was Elva Ione Connett but she was also on her 2nd marriage, following the passing of her 1st husband, Ernest Emrich, who preceded her in death by over 65 years. My Great Aunt Elva passed away in 1983 at the grand age of 91. As to specific names and dates for lookups in the Wayne St. M.E. Church records, the birth years for the above mentioned individuals for possible baptismal records are as follows: William C. Raney b. 1885 Theodore S. Raney b.1883 Elsie M. Kimmel b.1889 Mae C. Kimmel b. 1886 There was also Elsie Raney b. 1889 who married (m.1909) Henry Rapp b. 1885 One generation further back are: John Raney (b. Scotland) who married (m.1882) Emma Elizabeth Reed (b.1865) Newton Kimmel (b.1860) who married (m.1884) Catherine McNair (b. 1865) Aunts, Uncles, and a few of the cousins with possible Wayne St. M.E. Church ties for which baptismal (post 1859) and/or marriage records (post 1863) might exist include: William George Pool who married (m. 1866) Mary Ann Mathias James Thomas Pool who married (m. 1865) Eva Elizabeth Hazzard Francis Pool (b. 1867) who married (m. 1893) Flora B. Houghton (b. 1869) William J. Pool (b. 1870) who married (m. 1896) Mary Hettie Welbaum (b. 1865) Lewis Rhodes Pool (b. 1872) who married (m. 1899) Bertha Joker (b. 1878) Viola Pool (b. 1877) Flora M. Pool (b. 1880) Newton A. Pool (b. 1883) Mary Susan McNair (b. 1859) who married (m. 1878) Andrew Dallas Branstrator John N. McNair (b. abt 1862) Stella Ann Kimmel (b. 1862) who married (m. 1887) David S, Connett Nancy Kimmel (b. 1864) William A. Kimmel (b. 1866) Milo Charles Kimmel ( b. 1869) Sarah Catherine (Kate) Kimmel (b. 1872) who married (m. 1895) William Wiebke Bishop S. Kimmel (b. 1876) who married (m. 1898) Fannie Wass Ida May Kimmel (b. 1879) who married (m. 1904) Eugene Joy Any info would be appreciated. Thanks again, Rich Raney

    02/17/2001 11:59:34
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS
    2. Patricia Bogel
    3. Rich, I just noticed another Raney/Kimmel marriage: Mel (something) C. Raney and Elsie Kimmel on December 23, 1909. Same preacher but no other notes. Also a Claud Kimmel to Kiester woman (can't make out name) on August 14, 1909, same minister. I remember a Mrs. Theodore Raney from years ago. Was she your mother? Pat SNUGAZA@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Pat, > I think I found some Methodists! I know for a fact that my parents and > paternal grandparents were married at Wayne St. M.E. Church, but that was > after 1907. In the time frames you offer, I'm not too sure who was there, as > my kinfolk church-hopped a bit. My likely surnames are KIMMEL , RANEY, POOL, > and MCNAIR. Less likely are BRANSTRATOR, (Jesse) RICE, and (George W.) REED. > > Thanks, > > Rich Raney

    02/17/2001 01:54:00
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS
    2. Patricia Bogel
    3. Rich, a number of the names you mentioned are in these books, but I would need specifics. I find a marriage of Theodore Raney and Mae C. Kimmel on July 15, 1909. The were married by C. Claud Travis but there are no other comment. The record indicates they are from Fort Wayne. Pat SNUGAZA@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Pat, > I think I found some Methodists! I know for a fact that my parents and > paternal grandparents were married at Wayne St. M.E. Church, but that was > after 1907. In the time frames you offer, I'm not too sure who was there, as > my kinfolk church-hopped a bit. My likely surnames are KIMMEL , RANEY, POOL, > and MCNAIR. Less likely are BRANSTRATOR, (Jesse) RICE, and (George W.) REED. > > Thanks, > > Rich Raney

    02/17/2001 01:46:19
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS
    2. Hi Pat, I think I found some Methodists! I know for a fact that my parents and paternal grandparents were married at Wayne St. M.E. Church, but that was after 1907. In the time frames you offer, I'm not too sure who was there, as my kinfolk church-hopped a bit. My likely surnames are KIMMEL , RANEY, POOL, and MCNAIR. Less likely are BRANSTRATOR, (Jesse) RICE, and (George W.) REED. Thanks, Rich Raney

    02/16/2001 04:03:31
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS
    2. Linda Churchward
    3. Jim, Regarding Monroeville Barnharts. You might want to check the Allen Co. GenWeb Page. Click on churches, then Monroe Twp. I have listed all churches in Monroe Twp. and a short history of the church plus what records they have kept. Hope this is of help. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Bogel" <pbogel@fwi.com> To: <INALLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS > Jim, Monroeville is in the country and a long way from where the Wayne > Street Church was located. I did check the membership list 1859-1873 and > there are no Barnharts listed. > > Pat > > ThumperMan@aol.com wrote: > > > > What a generous offer. I'll try not to complicate your life, but if while > > you're searching for others with more specific dates and names, if ya run > > across any BARNHARTs would ya let me know. My BARNHARTS lived in Monroeville > > Indiana, as a matter of fact, Monroeville was platted by John & Jacob > > BARNHART, sons of Peter BARNHART, around 1850. I also know they were > > Methodists. So..., anything ya find will be appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Jim Worthington >

    02/16/2001 09:26:00
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS
    2. Patricia Bogel
    3. Karen, Myers/Meyer is a common name and there are some in these books. Perry township is a long way (in those days) from Wayne Township (downtown Fort Wayne) where the church was located so it's doubtful that anyone would travel that many miles to church. I'd suggest you search for Perry Township records. Pat BeTheBull@aol.com wrote: > > Thanks so much for the kind offer to do lookups! Do you see any Myers (a/k/a > Meyer, Moyer) families? I know our Myers' lived in Perry Township and I > think they were Lutheran, but I'm not really sure. > > Karen

    02/16/2001 07:24:30
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS
    2. Patricia Bogel
    3. Karen, Myers/Meyer is a common name and there are some in these books. Perry township is a long way (in those days) from Wayne Township where the church was located so it's doubtful that anyone would travel that many miles to church. I'd suggest you search for Perry Township records. Pat BeTheBull@aol.com wrote: > > Thanks so much for the kind offer to do lookups! Do you see any Myers (a/k/a > Meyer, Moyer) families? I know our Myers' lived in Perry Township and I > think they were Lutheran, but I'm not really sure. > > Karen

    02/16/2001 07:24:01
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS
    2. Thanks so much for the kind offer to do lookups! Do you see any Myers (a/k/a Meyer, Moyer) families? I know our Myers' lived in Perry Township and I think they were Lutheran, but I'm not really sure. Karen

    02/16/2001 07:12:26
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS
    2. Hi Pat, How are you doing? Long time no hear. Hope all is well. Thanks for the offer. I don't think I have any Methodists, just Presbyterians. Jane At 10:25 AM 02/16/2001 -0500, you wrote: >I have in my possession records from the Wayne Street Methodist >Episcopal Church in Fort Wayne (Allen County). If you had an ancestor >who was baptized or married in this church I will make an attempt to >find those records for you. > >The books I have contain these dates: > >Baptisms: > >1859 - 1873 >1888-1894 >Aug. 1898 - March 1908 > >Marriages > >1863 - 1870 >May 1873 - July 1877 >1888 - 1894 >May 1898 - October 1907 > >These records are not in alpha order, so an approximate date would be >very helpful. > >All known records have been copied by the Allen County Library and the >books are available at that location. > >Patricia Jane Hunter Hodgson Tucson, AZ hodgson@azstarnet.com hodgson@u.arizona.edu

    02/16/2001 06:20:17
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS
    2. Patricia Bogel
    3. Terry, I do not find the La Roux name in the books. I would suggest that they probably were Catholics. La Roux sounds like a French name and the current Poinsettes in town are Catholic. You might try some of the Catholic records in Allen County. Pat Terry Spear wrote: > > Hi Pat... > I really have a brick wall with my La Roux family in Fort Wayne, IN > Maybe you'll have something on them....Irene was born, June 10, > 1897......but don't know her parent's names. Her husband, Leo J. Poinsette, > was also born in Fort Wayne, but don't know the date. Thanks, Terry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patricia Bogel <pbogel@fwi.com> > To: INALLEN-L@rootsweb.com <INALLEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Friday, February 16, 2001 9:36 AM > Subject: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS > > >I have in my possession records from the Wayne Street Methodist > >Episcopal Church in Fort Wayne (Allen County). If you had an ancestor > >who was baptized or married in this church I will make an attempt to > >find those records for you. > > > >The books I have contain these dates: > > > >Baptisms: > > > >1859 - 1873 > >1888-1894 > >Aug. 1898 - March 1908 > > > >Marriages > > > >1863 - 1870 > >May 1873 - July 1877 > >1888 - 1894 > >May 1898 - October 1907 > > > >These records are not in alpha order, so an approximate date would be > >very helpful. > > > >All known records have been copied by the Allen County Library and the > >books are available at that location. > > > >Patricia > >

    02/16/2001 04:34:26
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS
    2. Pat Thank you for taking the time to check on my BARNHARTs. Jim Worthington

    02/16/2001 04:33:29
    1. Re: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS
    2. What a generous offer. I'll try not to complicate your life, but if while you're searching for others with more specific dates and names, if ya run across any BARNHARTs would ya let me know. My BARNHARTS lived in Monroeville Indiana, as a matter of fact, Monroeville was platted by John & Jacob BARNHART, sons of Peter BARNHART, around 1850. I also know they were Methodists. So..., anything ya find will be appreciated. Thanks Jim Worthington

    02/16/2001 04:11:02