To Barbara ??, who recently contacted Eugene M Wengert requesting '...please check for a Henry/Heirich Schmiedel, immigrating 1873, d.o.b. ~1840.': I am Bill Rietdorf, and my friends Frank Schmiedel and his wife would very much appreciate contacting you, for obvious reasons given the unusual surname you are interested in. The Frank Schmiedels are not currently on the internet, otherwise they would be sending a similar message to this one from me. Can you and would you kindly e-mail me as to how you wish to make contact with them? They have a story I think you will also find fascinating as well as heart-warming, as I and many others have. Aufwiederschreiben, Bill Rietdorf

Karen, There is the Firefighter Musuem across the street from the Allen Co. Public Library. Not sure what they have, I do know a member of the Allen County Genealogical Society who is a retired fireman is working on putting together a list of every fireman who every served on the Fort Wayne Fire Dept. Don't know for sure if it finished. There were many Lutheran Churches in Fort Wayne. The library has copied most churches records, the problem will be which church. Hope this helps, Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <BeTheBull@aol.com> To: <INALLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 12:16 PM Subject: [INALLEN-L] Allen County Research > My father is planning a trip to Fort Wayne next weekend. Can any of you give > us any tips on researching there? Our Myers family lived in and around > Huntertown in Perry Township (Leo Post Office) and are buried in Dutch Ridge > Cemetery and in Huntertown Cemetery. Later, some of our Myers family moved > into Fort Wayne. My great-grandfather's (Emanuel Myers) occupation was > listed as "horseman." Emanuel died in 1952. His father was Israel Myers; > Israel's father was Nathan Myers. At one time, one of these men was a > fireman in Fort Wayne. I can't remember which one. > > Are there any historical societies in this area that my father can visit? > Perhaps there are old photographs of fire departments that might show my > ancestor? > > Our Myers' were apparently Lutherans who moved from Lehigh County, > Pennsylvania to Seneca County, Ohio, and then finally into Allen County. > What Lutheran churches were in Allen County in the late 1800's and early > 1900's? > > Any advice you can give us would be greatly appreciated! > > Karen >

Ray, Dutch Ridge Cemetery is on the corner of Old Auburn Road and Chapman Road in Perry Twp. I take it you are not from Fort Wayne. I best way to get there is, take the DuPont Road exit from Interstate 69. Exit 116. Go west on DuPont Road to the first light, Auburn Road ( Old Auburn Road) turn north to Chapman Road. You will be almost to the DeKalb - Allen County line. The church is on the west side of the road and the cemetery is across the street. The church is now a private home, just beautiful. You may also want to check out the Allen Co. GenWeb page. Click on Allen Co. Churches. I have a short history of the church and what records are available at the Allen Co. Public Library. Good luck, Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <Paparay@aol.com> To: <INALLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [INALLEN-L] Allen County Research > Thank you for that info. Can you give me directions to the cemetery. I have > not been able to find it on the map. I called city hall in Huntertown and > they didnt have any info on it. I want to get pictures and info on my > family. Thanks for your help. Ray Myers >

Jo Ann, Did you know that Nathan and Leah had a daughter named Mary Ann? I don't have any information at all about her except that she was born in 1849. My father wants to go out to the Huntertown Cemetery. Do you happen to know where that is? I have directions to Dutch Ridge on Old Auburn Road, but can't find directions to Huntertown Cemetery. Daniel Myers and Sarah Ferguson Myers are buried there, as our my great-great-grandparents, Israel Myers and Kate Whiteman Myers. Do you know when Milton F. Myers was born and when he died? Is he buried close to Nathan and Leah? We've got lots and lots of questions on this Myers family. Karen > DUTCH RIDGE HAD A CHURCH OF THERE OWN AND WAS REFORMED CHURCH AND THE SAME > PREACHER TRAVELED FROM BUTLER, NEW VILLE, AND SPENCERVILLE TO DO SERVICES > FOR > THEM MARY ANN WAS A MEMBER OF THAT CHURCH WITH HER FATHER MOST OF YOUR > ANSWERS ARE AT THAT CEM. IT IS INTERESTING I HAVE A PICTURE OF THE STONE > THERE OF MARY ANN AND MILTON F. MYERS NATHAN APRIL 2, 1812- OCT. 2 1886. > LEAH JAN 28, 1811- OCT. 3, 1880 . MILTON IN OHIO 8TH REG. CO. G.VOL. INF. >

Hello, Does anyone have immigration data on John Harkenrider and or John Heigenroder born in Koer Hessen, Germany who immigrated to Ft. Wayne after 1840; Jacob Baker born on 9-17-1820 in Hesse Damstadt, Heppenheim, Germany, married Agatha Mayer, born 2-12-1833 in Geisingeny, Baden, Germany. Jacob died on 8-12-1896 in Ft. Wayne and his parents were George Baker and Katherine Boeschinger. Agatha's parents were Martin Mayer and Joanna Grueninger and she died on 2-3-1899 in Ft. Wayne Thanks! mike Miller Cleveland, Ohio

Thank you for that info. Can you give me directions to the cemetery. I have not been able to find it on the map. I called city hall in Huntertown and they didnt have any info on it. I want to get pictures and info on my family. Thanks for your help. Ray Myers

The index is pretty good in the 1870s, so it might be that there is a different spelling...nothing even close as you have it now. Gene At 10:23 PM 2/22/01 -0600, you wrote: >Eugene, > >Thanks for offering to do the lookup. Would you please check for a >Henry/Heinrich Schmiedel, immigrating 1873, d.o.b. ~1840. > >Barbara > > > >"Eugene M. Wengert" wrote: >> >> I have had only 12 sets of requests. I have answered all of them already. >> I did indeed find some good stuff for some poeple. >> >> GERMANS TO AMERICA has about 85 volumes--they are adding more all the time. >> Each volume, listing several thousand passengers by arrival date starting >> in 1850, has its own index, so it is helpful to have a master index (like I >> do) so I can search all the volumes at once electronically. In the early >> dates, the authors only listed ships where the majority of the people were >> German, so in the 1850s, the volumes are not too thorough. They do get >> better. If I cannot find your person, try different spellings--the old >> German farmers didn't spell too well I guess, or maybe it is us??? >> >> Some people have sent me only a name (like George Mueller) and there must >> be 50 people with that name. Another sent me a common name and said he was >> born in the 1830 to 1840 range, which again is too broad to help find their >> person. Another sent me some Russiam names, even though one might think >> that the people had to be German--wouldn't you think? And another sent be >> a very rare name--spelled the way she spelled it, there was not one of the >> nearly one million names I have in the index spelled that way. Be creative >> in your spellings; maybe the ship's captain was French and couldn't spell >> the German correctly. A good book about all this is THEY CAME IN SHIPS. >> >> To repeat--send me first name, surname, dob and date of immigration. It >> helps if you have names fo others that were traveling together--sometimes a >> rare first name, like Xavier, is the clue we need to find them. I can only >> look at 1850-1888 arrivals. >> >> If I find the reference, then go to the original manifest (microfilm) to >> probably find out more. I found that my 3gr grandfather came over with his >> eventuial bride and her family--maybe there was a budding romance on board? >> We'll never know, but it is fun to speculate... >> >> One of the strangest ones was a rare surname (Dehmer) with a first name of >> Joe. However, there were no Joe Dehmer's listed, but there was an August >> and a Franz Dehmer from the correct city. When I went to the microfilm, as >> the date was in the right time period, I found that the folks at Ellis >> Island had crossed off the names of two Joe Dehmers from the same city, on >> the same ship, that arrived together and made them change their name (used >> their middle names). The "Joe" for both is clearly seen in the record as >> that was doen by the ship's captain! When I told this to my wife, she >> recollected the story, but she had not recalled it for many years and it >> might of been forgotten if..... >> >> Anyway--send in more requests if you have some. >> >> Gene >> >> Gene Wengert >> Professor of Wood Processing, Emeritus >> Univ of Wisconsin-Madison >> & >> President >> The WoodDoctor's Rx, LLC >> 2872 Charleston Drive, Madison, WI 53711-6502 >> 608-271-4441 >> Preferred e-mail: WoodDoc@Badger.Alumni.Wisc.edu > Gene Wengert Professor of Wood Processing, Emeritus Univ of Wisconsin-Madison & President The WoodDoctor's Rx, LLC 2872 Charleston Drive, Madison, WI 53711-6502 608-271-4441 Preferred e-mail: WoodDoc@Badger.Alumni.Wisc.edu

Eugene, Thanks for offering to do the lookup. Would you please check for a Henry/Heinrich Schmiedel, immigrating 1873, d.o.b. ~1840. Barbara "Eugene M. Wengert" wrote: > > I have had only 12 sets of requests. I have answered all of them already. > I did indeed find some good stuff for some poeple. > > GERMANS TO AMERICA has about 85 volumes--they are adding more all the time. > Each volume, listing several thousand passengers by arrival date starting > in 1850, has its own index, so it is helpful to have a master index (like I > do) so I can search all the volumes at once electronically. In the early > dates, the authors only listed ships where the majority of the people were > German, so in the 1850s, the volumes are not too thorough. They do get > better. If I cannot find your person, try different spellings--the old > German farmers didn't spell too well I guess, or maybe it is us??? > > Some people have sent me only a name (like George Mueller) and there must > be 50 people with that name. Another sent me a common name and said he was > born in the 1830 to 1840 range, which again is too broad to help find their > person. Another sent me some Russiam names, even though one might think > that the people had to be German--wouldn't you think? And another sent be > a very rare name--spelled the way she spelled it, there was not one of the > nearly one million names I have in the index spelled that way. Be creative > in your spellings; maybe the ship's captain was French and couldn't spell > the German correctly. A good book about all this is THEY CAME IN SHIPS. > > To repeat--send me first name, surname, dob and date of immigration. It > helps if you have names fo others that were traveling together--sometimes a > rare first name, like Xavier, is the clue we need to find them. I can only > look at 1850-1888 arrivals. > > If I find the reference, then go to the original manifest (microfilm) to > probably find out more. I found that my 3gr grandfather came over with his > eventuial bride and her family--maybe there was a budding romance on board? > We'll never know, but it is fun to speculate... > > One of the strangest ones was a rare surname (Dehmer) with a first name of > Joe. However, there were no Joe Dehmer's listed, but there was an August > and a Franz Dehmer from the correct city. When I went to the microfilm, as > the date was in the right time period, I found that the folks at Ellis > Island had crossed off the names of two Joe Dehmers from the same city, on > the same ship, that arrived together and made them change their name (used > their middle names). The "Joe" for both is clearly seen in the record as > that was doen by the ship's captain! When I told this to my wife, she > recollected the story, but she had not recalled it for many years and it > might of been forgotten if..... > > Anyway--send in more requests if you have some. > > Gene > > Gene Wengert > Professor of Wood Processing, Emeritus > Univ of Wisconsin-Madison > & > President > The WoodDoctor's Rx, LLC > 2872 Charleston Drive, Madison, WI 53711-6502 > 608-271-4441 > Preferred e-mail: WoodDoc@Badger.Alumni.Wisc.edu

Karen, Nancy is right. The ACPL is fantastic. I live in Toledo, OH, so my sister and I along with my daughter have made many pilgrimages to FW. I absolutely love it!!! Every time we think we have exhausted all the resources there, we find something new. The staff is great also. One tip-get into the library catalog, type in your surnames or locations and locate the title, author and call number for the items you find. You will be filling out call slips at the library to obtain items not on the open shelves. This has been a real time saver for us. Happy hunting. I wish I could join you. Lucy Mossburg Bellville Surnames: MOSSBURG, THRELKELD, WARE, KETTNER, LONG, ISABEY, HAMILTON

DUTCH RIDGE HAD A CHURCH OF THERE OWN AND WAS REFORMED CHURCH AND THE SAME PREACHER TRAVELED FROM BUTLER, NEW VILLE, AND SPENCERVILLE TO DO SERVICES FOR THEM MARY ANN WAS A MEMBER OF THAT CHURCH WITH HER FATHER MOST OF YOUR ANSWERS ARE AT THAT CEM. IT IS INTERESTING I HAVE A PICTURE OF THE STONE THERE OF MARY ANN AND MILTON F. MYERS NATHAN APRIL 2, 1812- OCT. 2 1886. LEAH JAN 28, 1811- OCT. 3, 1880 . MILTON IN OHIO 8TH REG. CO. G.VOL. INF. JO ANN

Try checking out the Allen Co. page at www.rootsweb.com/~inallen/index.htm . This lists the churches in Allen Co. It gives date of founding and what info. in ACPL has on microfilm. I have never been to Ft. Wayne, so my best advice is to go to the library. It is the second biggest genealogical library iin the country. Hope you get lots of good advice! Good luck, Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: <BeTheBull@aol.com> To: <INALLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 11:16 AM Subject: [INALLEN-L] Allen County Research > My father is planning a trip to Fort Wayne next weekend. Can any of you give > us any tips on researching there? Our Myers family lived in and around > Huntertown in Perry Township (Leo Post Office) and are buried in Dutch Ridge > Cemetery and in Huntertown Cemetery. Later, some of our Myers family moved > into Fort Wayne. My great-grandfather's (Emanuel Myers) occupation was > listed as "horseman." Emanuel died in 1952. His father was Israel Myers; > Israel's father was Nathan Myers. At one time, one of these men was a > fireman in Fort Wayne. I can't remember which one. > > Are there any historical societies in this area that my father can visit? > Perhaps there are old photographs of fire departments that might show my > ancestor? > > Our Myers' were apparently Lutherans who moved from Lehigh County, > Pennsylvania to Seneca County, Ohio, and then finally into Allen County. > What Lutheran churches were in Allen County in the late 1800's and early > 1900's? > > Any advice you can give us would be greatly appreciated! > > Karen >

Karen, Fort Wayne has the second best genealogy library in the United States: The Allen County Public Library. You can visit their web page at: www.acpl.lib.in.us Your father should have no trouble finding information on his family. Linda Churchward ----- Original Message ----- From: <BeTheBull@aol.com> To: <INALLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 12:16 PM Subject: [INALLEN-L] Allen County Research > My father is planning a trip to Fort Wayne next weekend. Can any of you give > us any tips on researching there? Our Myers family lived in and around > Huntertown in Perry Township (Leo Post Office) and are buried in Dutch Ridge > Cemetery and in Huntertown Cemetery. Later, some of our Myers family moved > into Fort Wayne. My great-grandfather's (Emanuel Myers) occupation was > listed as "horseman." Emanuel died in 1952. His father was Israel Myers; > Israel's father was Nathan Myers. At one time, one of these men was a > fireman in Fort Wayne. I can't remember which one. > > Are there any historical societies in this area that my father can visit? > Perhaps there are old photographs of fire departments that might show my > ancestor? > > Our Myers' were apparently Lutherans who moved from Lehigh County, > Pennsylvania to Seneca County, Ohio, and then finally into Allen County. > What Lutheran churches were in Allen County in the late 1800's and early > 1900's? > > Any advice you can give us would be greatly appreciated! > > Karen >

My father is planning a trip to Fort Wayne next weekend. Can any of you give us any tips on researching there? Our Myers family lived in and around Huntertown in Perry Township (Leo Post Office) and are buried in Dutch Ridge Cemetery and in Huntertown Cemetery. Later, some of our Myers family moved into Fort Wayne. My great-grandfather's (Emanuel Myers) occupation was listed as "horseman." Emanuel died in 1952. His father was Israel Myers; Israel's father was Nathan Myers. At one time, one of these men was a fireman in Fort Wayne. I can't remember which one. Are there any historical societies in this area that my father can visit? Perhaps there are old photographs of fire departments that might show my ancestor? Our Myers' were apparently Lutherans who moved from Lehigh County, Pennsylvania to Seneca County, Ohio, and then finally into Allen County. What Lutheran churches were in Allen County in the late 1800's and early 1900's? Any advice you can give us would be greatly appreciated! Karen

I have a new spelling for Barbra Newberger that I had asked you to look up. The spelling, according to Indiana Marriages, 1845-1920, which I just found.(2/22/01) Her name is spelled Barbara Nauberger. Can you see if her name is in your Germans to America. Thanks so much.

Patricia Do you have any Shoemaker's in your book. Thank you for your very kind offer! Lyndy > -----Original Message----- > From: Patricia Bogel <pbogel@fwi.com> > To: INALLEN-L@rootsweb.com <INALLEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Friday, February 16, 2001 7:41 AM > Subject: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS > > > >I have in my possession records from the Wayne Street Methodist > >Episcopal Church in Fort Wayne (Allen County). If you had an ancestor > >who was baptized or married in this church I will make an attempt to > >find those records for you. > > > >The books I have contain these dates: > > > >Baptisms: > > > >1859 - 1873 > >1888-1894 > >Aug. 1898 - March 1908 > > > >Marriages > > > >1863 - 1870 > >May 1873 - July 1877 > >1888 - 1894 > >May 1898 - October 1907 > > > >These records are not in alpha order, so an approximate date would be > >very helpful. > > > >All known records have been copied by the Allen County Library and the > >books are available at that location. > > > >Patricia > > > >

Patricia My father was born in Fort Wayne on Jan. 12, 1905. He did not have a birth certificate, but he was baptised. He may have been baptised in a Presbyterian church, but he may also been baptised in a Methodist church. If you could check the records you have, I would appreciate it. His name was Alvin Jack Carney. His father: Pearl Carney; his mother: Grace Louise Jack. I hope I'm not sending you on a wild goose chase. Jackie -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Bogel <pbogel@fwi.com> To: INALLEN-L@rootsweb.com <INALLEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, February 16, 2001 7:41 AM Subject: [INALLEN-L] WAYNE STREET M.E. CHURCH RECORDS >I have in my possession records from the Wayne Street Methodist >Episcopal Church in Fort Wayne (Allen County). If you had an ancestor >who was baptized or married in this church I will make an attempt to >find those records for you. > >The books I have contain these dates: > >Baptisms: > >1859 - 1873 >1888-1894 >Aug. 1898 - March 1908 > >Marriages > >1863 - 1870 >May 1873 - July 1877 >1888 - 1894 >May 1898 - October 1907 > >These records are not in alpha order, so an approximate date would be >very helpful. > >All known records have been copied by the Allen County Library and the >books are available at that location. > >Patricia >

Eugene M. Wengert wrote: > > Passenger's Name: Katharine Woehr > Age: 25 > Gender: Female > Occupation: None > Last Residence: Germany > Date of Arrival: Aug. 13, 1881 > Final Destination: USA > Ship's Name: Elbe > Manifest ID Number: 36250 > Port of Embarkation: Bremen > > Passenger's Name: Friedr. Woehr > Age: 24 > Gender: Female > Occupation: None > Last Residence: Germany > Date of Arrival: Aug. 13, 1881 > Final Destination: USA > Ship's Name: Elbe > Manifest ID Number: 36250 > Port of Embarkation: Bremen > > Glad to help. > > Gene > > Gene Wengert > Professor of Wood Processing, Emeritus > Univ of Wisconsin-Madison > & > President > The WoodDoctor's Rx, LLC > 2872 Charleston Drive, Madison, WI 53711-6502 > 608-271-4441 > Preferred e-mail: WoodDoc@Badger.Alumni.Wisc.edu Thanks so much for your help. If you run into any "Woehr" (Henry, John, brother s to Frederick, or William and Carrie, children of Frederick and Katherine, they will all be my relation. I could sure use arrival dates on them. Thanks again, Betsy

Hi, I'm new to the list and was wondering if anyone could possibly do a lookup for me please. I'm trying to find the parents of Mary Jane Davis and any other information possible. BOOK: Index to Marriage Reocrd 1824-1920 Inclusive Volume 1 Letters A-E Inclusive Name: Mary Jane Davis Spouse: Alfred Edwards Marriage Date: 07 Dec 1863 Book 5 OSPage: 373 County: Allen I thank you for your help! Kathy in southern California searching: R.U.D.N.Y., S.A.D.O., M.A.L.I.N.O.W.S.K.I., P.A.L.E.W.I.C.Z. Candyman GenieAngels Co-List Owner at GenieAngels@yahoogroups.com Rzeszow, Poland List Owner at Rzeszow-Poland@yahoogroups.com

      Hello!!     I would like to share with the list and to new members about a website     called Genealogy Look Up Forum. It is a website of volunteers who will     do various types of look ups in many states. The URL address is     http://www.expage.com/page/genealogylookup. I hope it will be helpful     to many people in their research.     Mike

Nothing with this spelling. Gene At 05:54 PM 2/18/01 -0500, you wrote: >I have been looking for my g-grandmother. She came here from Germany. I don't >know when or where for sure. Her name was Barbra Newberger & I think she came >from somewhere around Heidelberg. The spelling came from my grandmother's >application for marriage. I hope you have good luck with my name. I wait to >hear from you. Many thanks. > Gene Wengert Professor of Wood Processing, Emeritus Univ of Wisconsin-Madison & President The WoodDoctor's Rx, LLC 2872 Charleston Drive, Madison, WI 53711-6502 608-271-4441 Preferred e-mail: WoodDoc@Badger.Alumni.Wisc.edu