Karen, All those Jonathan Kelly's ARE a problem, & I don't have it all sorted out either. In fact I have SEVEN in my database, & those are just the ones that I know!! But I do know a few tid bits that might help . All the name you mentioned are familiar & most are related in some shape or fashion to my Kellys. I have a family group picture of my Jonathan David Kelly, his 2nd wife Elizabeth Ruth Tharp & their children. My great-grandmother was the youngest child. Do you want a copy of this picture? Actually what I have is a laser copy of the original which my Grandmother has. It's a very good copy though. Let's go through the Jonathans.... My line is through the Jonathan Kelly who was born c1797 in PA, married Aug 29, 1816 in Harrison Co., OH to Sarah Kerrigan. Source:FTM CD#400, OH Marriage Index c1996. This CD is a compilation of OH marriage records from the courthouses, I don't have the actual copy. Jonathan's age is based on several census records . His death date is a mystery, I have Aug 21, 1870. w/ this as my source: Biographical & Historical Record of Jay & Blackford Cos.,IN c1887 states 9/1861, however Jonathan is listed as age 75 living w/ Justus in 1870 census. Justus was his son, my line again. I believe the Jonathan who died 1861 was an infant, also named Jonathan but a grandson . This is how Jonathan is listed in the 1850 & 1860 census: Jonathan Kelly age 53 farmer b. Pa., Sarah Kelly age 53, b.Pa. Daniel 23 m, laborer, b.Ohio Washington 21 m. b. Oh Charles 19 m. b.Oh William 16 m.,b.Oh Thomas 12 m. b.Oh The oldest 4 children that we know of had already married by 1850 1860 Census of Adams Co.,In. shows Jonathan Kelly age 63 b. Pa., occ. farmer, land value $13,000. Elizabeth Kelly age 68, b. Pa., Ellen Kelly age 44, b. Oh., Susannah Cole age 7, b. Pa. This appears to be the same Jonathan. We know Sarah died 1855, he might have remarried to this Elizabeth. I have no idea who Ellen & Susannah Cole are. As far as I know none of Jonathan's daughters in law were named Ellen & I don't know the Coles. Elizabeth also could be Jonathan's sister. According to a will of Daniel Kelly in Harrison Co., OH Jonathan appears to have been the youngest male (he's named last) in the following family: 1 Daniel Kelly b: Bef. 1775 PA d: 1831 Union Twp, Ohio .. +unknown d: Aft. Aug 1, 1831 OH . 2 Anne Kelly . 2 Charlotte Kelly . 2 Elizabeth Kelly . 2 David Kelly . 2 Mary Kelly . 2 William Kelly b: Bet. 1785 - 1794 . 2 Jonathan Kelly b: 1797 Pa. d: Aug 21, 1870 Blue Creek Twp., Adams Co., IN ..... +Sarah Kerrigan b: 1797 Pa. m: Aug 29, 1816 Jefferson Co.,OH d: Sep 5, 1855 Adams Co.,IN . 2 Isaac Kelly b: Bef. 1799 d: Aft. 1830 Daniel Kelly, Union twp., ___ County, date of will 4/28/1830;date of probate 8/1/1831; wife, name not given: children, William, Isaac, David, Jonathan, Anne, Charlotte, Mary, Elizabeth; execs., William Champer, Jacob Hing: wits., William Champer, John S. McClean. I have a feeling the Champer/Chambers go back a long way w/ this Kelly family. >From the Will Abstracts of Brooke County, West Virginia (across the river from Harrison Co., OH & where Daniel had lived) CHAMBERS, John NAMES: WIFE: Mary Chambers SONS: David Chambers, James Chambers, John Chambers (dec'd), William Chambers. DAUGHTERS: Sally Kelly (dec'd), Hulda Atkinson. GRANDSONS: William Kelly, George, son of John Chambers, James, son of John Chambers. EXECUTORS: Sons: David and James Chambers WITNESSES: Jesse Edgington, Nancy Briceland, James Ramsey DATED: Oct. 2, 1832 Recorded: Feb. term 1838 ******* Now back to Jonathan's siblings: Anne was possibly the Anne who married John Young 1823 in Harrison Co., OH. There are 2 Charlotte Kelly marriages: to William Courtright 1840 & Isaac Russel 1823. I don't know if either is this Charlotte, but the Courtrights are another related line. There are too many Elizabeth Kellys in the area to ever sort them! I've never found David in any census records. Nothing on Mary. William was on the 1820 Harrison Co., OH census as age 26-45. that's the last I've tracked him. Isaac is another story. He's probably the Isaac who married Mary Kerrigan in 1818. She probably a sister to Jonathan's wife. (Many ways to spell this name, Kernaghan, etc.) Isaac bought land in Carroll Co 1830. I don't know if he moved to IN in 1849 w/ Jonathan or not. I didn't find him on the 1850 census. He most likely had a son named Jonathan, so this might account for a few stray men by the name! What I have for the the first few generations. Most of this came from census, marriage, birth, death records. Descendants of Jonathan Kelly 1 Jonathan Kelly b: 1797 Pa. d: Aug 21, 1870 Blue Creek Twp., Adams Co., IN .. +Sarah Kerrigan b: 1797 Pa. m: Aug 29, 1816 Jefferson Co.,OH d: Sep 5, 1855 Adams Co.,IN . 2 Justus Kelly b: Apr 18, 1817 OH d: Jan 12, 1887 Jay Co.,IN ..... +Rebecca Courtright b: Feb 18, 1821 Centre Twp., Columbiana Co.,OH m: Oct 22, 1840 Harrison Co., OH, by George Atkinson, J.P. d: Dec 3, 1897 Jay Co.,IN Father: Johannes COURTRIGHT Mother: Mary "Polly" CLARKE ..... 3 Charlotte Kelly b: 1840 Harrison Co., OH d: Aft. 1918 Geneva, In ......... +Jesse McCollum b: 1835 OH m: Jan 3, 1860 Adams Co.,IN ..... 3 James Kelly b: 1842 OH ..... 3 Jonathan David Kelly b: Dec 3, 1844 Carrol Co, OH d: Jul 22, 1918 Van Buren, Grant Co.,IN ......... +Mattie J. Rogers b: Jan 1844 m: 1866 Adams Co., In d: Sep 16, 1867 Adams Co.,IN ..... *2nd Wife of Jonathan David Kelly: ......... +Elizabeth Ruth Tharp b: Oct 15, 1848 Bergen, Mercer Co., Ky m: Sep 30, 1868 Van Buren, Grant Co.,IN d: May 14, 1915 Van Buren, Grant Co.,IN Father: Christopher Bergen THARP Mother: Ruth RUSE ..... 3 Martha J. Kelly b: 1847 ..... 3 Mary E. Kelly b: 1854 d: Aft. 1918 Petroleum, Wells Co., IN ......... +J. Whitsel m: Mar 27, 1880 Adams Co.,IN ..... 3 Justice Milo Kelly b: 1860 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN d: Aft. 1918 Marion, In ......... +Etta B. Rickner m: Jan 28, 1881 Adams Co.,IN ..... 3 Alice Kelly b: 1862 . 2 Jonathan Kelly b: Feb 1823 OH d: Jun 14, 1898 Jay Co.,IN ..... +Esther Champer b: Feb 13, 1823 OH m: Jun 29, 1843 Carroll Co.,OH d: May 14, 1907 Jay Co.,IN ..... 3 Jemima J. Kelly b: 1845 OH ......... +Phillip Fetters b: 1842 OH Father: John FETTERS Mother: Elizabeth ..... 3 James Kelly b: 1848 OH d: Bet. 1849 - 1860 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Lucinda Kelly b: 1851 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ......... +Daniel Heistand m: Apr 7, 1872 Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Margaret A. Kelly b: 1854 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Louisa Kelly b: 1858 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ......... +John M. Rumple m: Aug 3, 1876 Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Christiana Kelly b: 1861 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN d: 1929 Adams Co., IN ......... +Bartly Burk, Jr. b: 1858 Wabash Twp., Jay Co., IN m: Abt. 1880 d: 1942 Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Mary E. Kelly b: 1863 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Andrew Kelly b: 1866 . 2 Mary Jane Kelly b: 1825 OH ..... +Jacob Champer b: 1824 OH m: Dec 30, 1841 Carroll Co., OH d: res 1860 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Jonathan Champer b: 1843 OH d: May 2, 1899 Adams Co., IN ......... +Julia Yaney b: Abt. 1863 m: Nov 27, 1884 Adams Co., IN ..... 3 John Champer b: Bet. 1843 - 1845 OH ..... 3 William Champer b: Bet. 1846 - 1847 IN ......... +Matilda Lewis m: Feb 7, 1874 Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Sarah J. Champer b: 1848 Adams Co., IN d: Bet. 1850 - 1860 Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Charles Champer b: 1851 IN ..... 3 Wilson T. Champer b: 1853 Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Alexander Champer b: 1858 IN ..... 3 Martha J. Champer b: 1860 Adams Co., IN . 2 Issac B. Kelly b: Jan 19, 1826 OH d: Nov 30, 1893 Geneva, Jay Co.,IN ..... +Laura Ann Hershey b: 1836 Pa. m: Aug 25, 1857 Adams Co., IN d: Bet. 1862 - 1866 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Willis Kelly b: 1859 Adams Co.,IN d: Bet. 1861 - 1869 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ..... 3 John Kelly b: 1861 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN . *2nd Wife of Issac B. Kelly: ..... +Isabelle Ramsey b: 1842 OH m: Abt. 1866 ..... 3 Marion Kelly b: 1867 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Alonzo Kelly b: Dec 1869 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Son Kelly b: Apr 9, 1883 Jay Co.,IN . 2 Daniel Kelly b: Feb 26, 1827 Carroll Co.,OH d: Dec 8, 1905 Wabash Twp., New Corydon, Jay Co.,IN ..... +Rosanna Snyder b: Mar 17, 1830 Culpepper Co.,VA m: Mar 11, 1852 Jay Co.,IN d: May 5, 1893 Wabash, New Corydon, Jay Co.,IN ..... 3 Sarah Emeline Kelly b: 1853 Wabash Twp., New Corydon, Jay Co.,IN ......... +Abram Helmer ..... 3 Mary Elizabeth Kelly b: 1855 Jay Co.,IN ......... +Jacob Bastion ..... 3 William Lamdena Kelly b: 1857 ..... 3 Jonathan Augustus Kelly b: 1859 Wabash Twp., New Corydon, Jay Co.,IN d: Apr 11, 1859 Wabash Twp., New Corydon, Jay Co.,IN ..... 3 Clement Alonzo Kelly b: Aft. 1861 ......... +Glendora Ward ..... 3 Fernando Edson Kelly b: Aft. 1861 ......... +M. Martin ..... 3 Percy Lamdena Kelly b: Aft. 1861 ......... +Mary Runkle m: May 2, 1883 Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Daniel Arnold Kelly b: Nov 30, 1861 Jay Co.,IN d: Sep 6, 1862 Jay Co.,IN . *2nd Wife of Daniel Kelly: ..... +Rachel Cole b: 1837 m: Sep 19, 1894 Adams Co.,IN d: Apr 23, 1898 Jay Co.,IN . 2 Washington Kelly b: 1829 OH ..... +Sarah E. Hanna b: 1837 PA m: Jul 25, 1852 Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Sarah C. Kelly b: 1853 OH ..... 3 Emma E. Kelly b: 1855 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Justus M. Kelly b: 1857 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Celesta C. Kelly b: 1859 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Baby Kelly b: Aug 1860 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN . 2 Charles Kelly b: 1831 OH d: Bet. 1881 - 1900 res: 1880 CO ..... +Sopromia Loofborrow b: Apr 1829 OH m: Apr 24, 1852 Adams Co., IN d: Aft. 1900 res: Woodlands, CO w/ daughter ..... 3 William Kelly b: 1852 Jay Co.,IN d: Nov 3, 1855 Jay Co.,IN ..... 3 Emily A.S. Kelly b: Jun 23, 1858 Jay Co.,IN d: Feb 19, 1860 Jay Co.,IN ..... 3 Josephine Kelly b: Aug 28, 1860 New Corydon, Adams Co., IN d: Aug 8, 1944 CALDWELL, ID ......... +David William Gibbs b: Oct 1855 IL m: 1884 d: WFT Est. 1905-1947 CALDWELL, ID . 2 William Kelly b: 1834 Oh ..... +Maria Unknown b: 1839 IN m: Abt. 1857 ..... 3 Sarah J. Kelly b: Oct 5, 1857 Jay Co.,IN d: Aft. 1860 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Mary Kelly b: Nov 1859 Adams Co.,IN . 2 Thomas J. Kelly b: 1838 Oh d: Aft. 1870 ..... +Sarah Buckmaster b: 1835 Oh m: Jul 16, 1857 Adams Co., IN d: Aft. 1870 ..... 3 Aaron Kelly b: 1858 Adams Co.,IN ..... 3 Jonathan Kelly b: Apr 1860 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN d: Bet. 1861 - 1870 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ..... 3 Thomas Kelly b: 1864 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ......... +Mary Digman ..... 3 James Kelly b: 1867 Jefferson Twp., Adams Co., IN ..... 3 George Kelly b: 1869 Cindy Torres Owens 1023 Aquia Dr Stafford, VA 22554-1940 cindyo@staffnet.com http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/o/w/e/Cindy-L-Owens/index.html