PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE olsondottie@gmail.com On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:45 PM, <in-south-central-request@rootsweb.com>wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 88 (gftl) > 2. Re: IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 88 (Diane Jones) > 3. Re: IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 88 (Bfp2000) > 4. Re: Items Posted (Charlotte Sellers) > 5. Re: IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 88 (Nadine & Sid Snider) > 6. Re: IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 88 (Nadine & Sid Snider) > 7. Re: Whitecappers (Hugh Miller) > 8. Miller and Harden families (Nadine & Sid Snider) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 05:08:58 -0400 > From: gftl <gftl@bluemarble.net> > Subject: Re: [IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL] IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL Digest, Vol 1, Issue > 88 > To: Janice Fleenor Smith <janice_fleenorsmith@yahoo.com>, > <in-south-central@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <959019bdd76efea7fe036e11864fed1d@bluemarble.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Janice, > > Because I live some distance from a majority of the 12 counties in my > district, I am limited primarily to newspaper clippings. And, > unfortunately, a majority of newsworthy items focus on the negative > instead of the positive. You have been unsubscribed from the list. > > Randi > > On Tue, 15 May 2012 14:16:04 -0700 (PDT), Janice Fleenor Smith wrote: > > Please unsubscribe me from your list.? Your focus on whitecapping and > > other violent news is not the type of historical information in which > > I have an interest.? I appreciate your preservation of that kind of > > ?historical data, but I'm more interested in birth, marriage, and > > general happenings of days gone by. > > > > > > Janice Fleenor Smith > > Ocala, FL > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 05:57:48 -0500 > From: "Diane Jones" <dijon@ckt.net> > Subject: Re: [IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL] IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL Digest, Vol 1, Issue > 88 > To: <in-south-central@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <C9842928E3074BF0AB548A277B44A2A9@DianePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > We all have to realize that we can?t just look at our history through rose > colored glasses. There has always been some strife and ugliness in our > history nationwide, and it is important to have access to all of it even if > it isn?t pretty. Some of these tragic events happened to someone?s > ancestors, and they have a right to learn of the bad, along with the good. > You do a great job, Randi, and I for one was glad to learn about > whitecapping even if it is an ugly part of Indiana history ? it did exist > and was a problem that was taken care of by the law eventually. We don?t > ever learn anything from past mistakes by ignoring it and pretending life > was nothing but happy events. > > Diane > > > From: gftl > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:08 AM > To: Janice Fleenor Smith ; in-south-central@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL] IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 88 > > Janice, > > Because I live some distance from a majority of the 12 counties in my > district, I am limited primarily to newspaper clippings. And, > unfortunately, a majority of newsworthy items focus on the negative > instead of the positive. You have been unsubscribed from the list. > > Randi > > On Tue, 15 May 2012 14:16:04 -0700 (PDT), Janice Fleenor Smith wrote: > > Please unsubscribe me from your list. Your focus on whitecapping and > > other violent news is not the type of historical information in which > > I have an interest. I appreciate your preservation of that kind of > > historical data, but I'm more interested in birth, marriage, and > > general happenings of days gone by. > > > > > > Janice Fleenor Smith > > Ocala, FL > > > > > > > The IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL Rootsweb list is for genealogists and historians who > have an interest in the south central district of Indiana, as defined by > the Indiana Genealogial Society, including the counties of: Bartholomew, > Brown, Clark, Crawford, Floyd, Harris, Jackson, Lawrence, Monroe, Orange, > Scott and Washington. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 07:41:36 -0400 (EDT) > From: Bfp2000 <bfp2000@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL] IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL Digest, Vol 1, Issue > 88 > To: in-south-central@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CF016F178D7E9B-22E0-948E@angweb-usm004.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed > > I agree with Diane. There's also the importance of understanding the > society and environment that our ancestors lived in. I personally find > many of the "insignificant" stories told in your "clippings" very > interesting. Whereas the history of whitecapping is extremely > repugnant, it is part of our history and if we ignore the lessons > learned from it we might wind up having to suffer through a repeat... > history does tend to repeat itself periodically. > > Keep up the great work Randi! > > Respectfully, > Bruce > near Indianapolis, IN > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diane Jones <dijon@ckt.net> > To: in-south-central <in-south-central@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, May 16, 2012 7:04 am > Subject: Re: [IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL] IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 88 > > > We all have to realize that we can?t just look at our history through > rose > colored glasses. There has always been some strife and ugliness in our > history > nationwide, and it is important to have access to all of it even if it > isn?t > pretty. Some of these tragic events happened to someone?s ancestors, > and they > have a right to learn of the bad, along with the good. You do a great > job, > Randi, and I for one was glad to learn about whitecapping even if it is > an ugly > part of Indiana history ? it did exist and was a problem that was taken > care of > by the law eventually. We don?t ever learn anything from past mistakes > by > ignoring it and pretending life was nothing but happy events. > > Diane > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 09:35:40 -0400 > From: Charlotte Sellers <csellers@myjclibrary.org> > Subject: Re: [IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL] Items Posted > To: in-south-central@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAK=2x2NE7iM0wOv=Dbr7o3JjrS-TjJQDL4tip=eXeqsLhzLERQ@mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Randi, > > I'll just add my two cents to what Diane and Bruce already said. We need to > know about our ancestors' society in many different aspects. I've learned > so much from the newspapers (and as a "recovering reporter" I sometimes > take reports with a grain or two of salt). Thanks for making the time to > copy and post the items ... and while I'm at it, thanks for starting the > IN-SO-Central! > > Charlotte Sellers > ** > > > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Bfp2000 <bfp2000@aol.com> wrote: > > > I agree with Diane. There's also the importance of understanding the > > society and environment that our ancestors lived in. I personally find > > many of the "insignificant" stories told in your "clippings" very > > interesting. Whereas the history of whitecapping is extremely > > repugnant, it is part of our history and if we ignore the lessons > > learned from it we might wind up having to suffer through a repeat... > > history does tend to repeat itself periodically. > > > > Keep up the great work Randi! > > > > Respectfully, > > Bruce > > near Indianapolis, IN > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Diane Jones <dijon@ckt.net> > > To: in-south-central <in-south-central@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wed, May 16, 2012 7:04 am > > Subject: Re: [IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL] IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 88 > > > > > > We all have to realize that we can?t just look at our history through > > rose > > colored glasses. There has always been some strife and ugliness in our > > history > > nationwide, and it is important to have access to all of it even if it > > isn?t > > pretty. Some of these tragic events happened to someone?s ancestors, > > and they > > have a right to learn of the bad, along with the good. You do a great > > job, > > Randi, and I for one was glad to learn about whitecapping even if it is > > an ugly > > part of Indiana history ? it did exist and was a problem that was taken > > care of > > by the law eventually. We don?t ever learn anything from past mistakes > > by > > ignoring it and pretending life was nothing but happy events. > > > > Diane > > > > The IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL Rootsweb list is for genealogists and historians who > > have an interest in the south central district of Indiana, as defined by > > the Indiana Genealogial Society, including the counties of: Bartholomew, > > Brown, Clark, Crawford, Floyd, Harris, Jackson, Lawrence, Monroe, Orange, > > Scott and Washington. > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 08:36:21 -0500 > From: "Nadine & Sid Snider" <tsni843@sunflower.com> > Subject: Re: [IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL] IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL Digest, Vol 1, Issue > 88 > To: <in-south-central@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <AF39629330AA472CAE8990BF63CC8625@DDZG4341> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; > reply-type=original > > I love what your doing - never heard of whitecapping before - every now and > then glean a little something. One of the tidbits the other day contained > the maiden name (Waltham) of one of my friends. To my surprise when we > started digging into our Indiana roots found she had some in the same area. > Going to send her what I found. She went to school with my hubby and > introduced us and I went to school with her younger sister but didn't know > her at the time. > > Nadine > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 08:46:43 -0500 > From: "Nadine & Sid Snider" <tsni843@sunflower.com> > Subject: Re: [IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL] IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL Digest, Vol 1, Issue > 88 > To: <in-south-central@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4D9814FC1861401A8E68EF5C7B4B09E0@DDZG4341> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > I love what your doing. Keep hoping to pick up a tidbit about my husbands > great grandfathers Snider, Blevins and Ruberson families who lived we think > mostly in Crawford and Orange, and possibly Brown, Perry and some > surrounding ones. Had never heard of whitecapping, but it kind of shows > how > live then. > > Told one of our friends one day that we were researching in that area and > she said thats where I came from. Lived there till I was seven. And that > her Dad's family (Waltman) had apprently been early settlers there. > Something came through the list on Waltman the other day so am going to > call > and tell her. > > Nadine > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 10:56:08 -0400 > From: Hugh Miller <hthm2@me.com> > Subject: Re: [IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL] Whitecappers > To: "in-south-central@rootsweb.com" <in-south-central@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <F767B8FC-295D-42D6-8B28-F2C0C18711C5@me.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII > > Folks, > > First I'd like to make my support of Randi in her efforts known. I am > not, as others are, a fan of the practice of just gathering birth, marriage > and death dates and relationships. I am more interested in the family > history, as I see it: the values, the character, the practices, rituals, > and habits of our ancestors. These aspects help bring them alive for me. > > > In all the discussion of whitecapping in Indiana, I think it's important > to recognise that in our state organized racial hatred is more a mark of > the 20th century in Indiana. In the 19th and early 20th century, this kind > of hatred was more directed at immigrant groups. > > As an example, when the Ku Klux Klan most influenced the state, in the > 1920 and 1924 elections, led by D. C. Stephenson, their target was not > blacks. There were not that many black folks in Indiana to be an effective > target to help their recruiting. The Klan focused on immigrant Catholics. > In many ways, the Klan was ecumenical in its' hatreds: they focused on > whoever was the 'best' local target. > > This whitecapping that Randi has found in late 19th century Indiana was > most likely directed at Catholic immigrants and others who don't fit into > the perceived 'mainstream' ways. > > Hope this is helpful. > Hugh Miller > > > Reply to: hthm2@comcast.net > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:46:08 -0500 > From: "Nadine & Sid Snider" <tsni843@sunflower.com> > Subject: [IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL] Miller and Harden families > To: "IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL" <IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BDC3709AB60044E3BB3A10FC92D7A1CC@DDZG4341> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Just found that my husband had two families living in Washington County, > Hamilton during the 1850 Census. > > One was his great great grandparents George and Bathsheba Harden. Their > daughter Elizabeth was 16 at the time and apparently born in Ohio. Other > members of the Harden family were > William -18, James - 13 Emily - 10, Monroe - 7 and Mary Ann age 1. > Also in the home were the following: > > Geo W Yauncey age 23, Elizabeth Cochean -70, Daniel Goodrick - 38, > Cassandra Goodrick, - 52, William Goodrick - 14, James Goodrick - 10, > Lathrod Goodrick - 7 and Harriet Kenady age 40. > > Think this family had moved to Kansas Territory by the 1860 Census and not > sure where there would be a census for them. > > > Elizabeth Harden later married Augustus Miller son of David and Lydia > Styres Miller. This family was also living in Washing, Hamilton, Indiana at > the time of the 1850 census. Cannot find Augustus in the 1850 census, but > am know they were his parents. Also in the home were J. Daniel age 17, > Jeffrey H, age 14, William B age 12, Savilla S age 9 Mary C age 6 and > Mariah E age 4. Also in the home was Harriet Corbin age 17. > > Know that Augustus was born 1826 in Stokes County, NC. Know this family > was also living in Kansas during the 1860 census. > > Assume that Augustus would have been living and working outside his > parents home during the 1860 census. Did find two about his age one living > in Rush Indiana and one in Newberry, LaGrange, Indiana. I wonder if he > could have been married before he married Elizabeth. If anyone thinks any > of this is familiar would love to trade information with you. But, think I > just disproved one family story. Elizabeth was claimed she went to school > with William Quantrill, we had always assumed he was the teacher and she > the student, but she was born in 1834 and he in 1837. Think he was born in > Ohio and so was she - so perhaps they were classmates there - don't know > when her family moved to Indiana. > > Nadine > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of IN-SOUTH-CENTRAL Digest, Vol 1, Issue 90 > *********************************************** >