Correction to the post I just sent about Folkers and Janssens and Tjadens... "Harmke TJADEN FOLKERS was a brother to my gggrandfather, Tjade/Charles TJADEN" Ummmm, Harmke was NOT his brother. Otherwise SHE would not have been capable of cranking out seven children. Sorry about that. Harmke was a female and was my ancestor's sister. Amy atjaden@mindspring.com