To all my Williamson County web friends. I have tried in vain to locate my great grandmother for years. Rutha Louisa Moore was born in Johnston City in 1854, She married Isaac Ross Belcher July 25, 1872. They had, I believe, four children of which one was my grandmother, Winnie Belcher (1889-1944). Her death certificate list her mother as Louiza Moore of Johnston City. Isaac Ross remarried in the twenties and was buried in Herrin City Cemetery as Ross Belcher in 1937.I assume she died between 1910 and 1929. Any small clue would be greatly appreciated. I sure wished I had asked questions while people were still alive, I was 5 when my grandmother died. Thank you all. Phil Draper. Bay City, Michigan

Is there a way that I can find out if that was the CCC camp where my Father worked? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Mullins" <mullins95713@earthlink.net> To: <ILWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [Wmsn Co IL] Marion, Illinois Military Installation > Yes CCC Camp was at the Fairgrounds and there was some staging at the old > Norman farm east of Marion in the 30's - I have a couple of pictures. > > Jerry Mullins > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jon Musgrave" <jon.musgrave@mchsi.com> > To: <ILWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 5:54 PM > Subject: RE: [Wmsn Co IL] Marion, Illinois Military Installation > > > >I don't know about Army installations, but there was a Civilian > >Conservation > > Corps camp at the fairgrounds during the Great Depression. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Jon Musgrave > > www.IllinoisHistory.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sharon Bartholomew [mailto:healey4@earthlink.net] > > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 7:24 PM > > To: ILWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [Wmsn Co IL] Marion, Illinois Military Installation > > > > There was an Army military installation in Marion, IL in the early 1940s > > (certainly in 1942). Does anyone know where it was? Is any of it still > > there, or what is there now? > > > > Thank you very much for your help. > > > > > > Sharon Bartholomew > > Anaheim, CA > > > > > > ==== ILWILLIA Mailing List ==== > > Researching in other counties in southern Illinois? Check out: > > http://southern-illinois-ancestors.net/ > > > > > > ==== ILWILLIA Mailing List ==== > > Visited the Williamson County Historical Society lately? > > http://www.thewchs.com > > > > > > ==== ILWILLIA Mailing List ==== > Obits from the Marion Daily Republican: > http://www.mariondaily.com/obituaries/ >

I am looking for the parents of the wife of Louis Rubinelli. Her first name was Emma. I believe her mother may have been Domenica Clara Bione know to our family as Zia Kinota. Emma was born on Jan 13, 1907 and passed away in Williamson County on Feb 21, 1991. She and Louis had two daughters, Louise and Dena. Louise's obituary listed her maiden name as Lenavti which I believe is a misspelling. Any help will be appreciated. Paula Meinert

WPA PROJECTS: October 29, 1929 was the day the stock market crashed officially setting off the Great Depression. Unemployment skyrocketed and a fourth of the workforce was without jobs by 1933 and many became homeless. President Herbert Hoover was in office and was unable to handle the crisis and in 1932 Franklin Delano Roosevelt was elected president. He promised a "New Deal" for the American people and Congress created the .....Works Progress Administration (WPA) which offered work relief for thousands of people. People out of work were given jobs working on the WPA projects. Crab Orchard Lake was completed by the Works Progress Administration (WPA) in 1939, and approximately 3,000 acres were planted with almost 3.5 million trees. Other projects were repairing storm sewers, construction of manholes, repairing bridges, building recreational parks, etc. Another WPA project was setting up workshops such as sewing and canning for women and working with wood for men. M. J. Moore ~~~ `````````````````````````````````````````````` ----- Original Message ----- From: "Loraine Miller" <lorainemiller@yahoo.com> To: <ILWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:46 PM Subject: [Wmsn Co IL] WPA > Does anyone know anything about WPA projects? My mother's social security > application shows that in April of 1938 she applied for social security > saying she was employed by WPA project 5550 at 612 N. Market, Marion, IL. >

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Yes CCC Camp was at the Fairgrounds and there was some staging at the old Norman farm east of Marion in the 30's - I have a couple of pictures. Jerry Mullins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Musgrave" <jon.musgrave@mchsi.com> To: <ILWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 5:54 PM Subject: RE: [Wmsn Co IL] Marion, Illinois Military Installation >I don't know about Army installations, but there was a Civilian >Conservation > Corps camp at the fairgrounds during the Great Depression. > > Sincerely, > > Jon Musgrave > www.IllinoisHistory.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sharon Bartholomew [mailto:healey4@earthlink.net] > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 7:24 PM > To: ILWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Wmsn Co IL] Marion, Illinois Military Installation > > There was an Army military installation in Marion, IL in the early 1940s > (certainly in 1942). Does anyone know where it was? Is any of it still > there, or what is there now? > > Thank you very much for your help. > > > Sharon Bartholomew > Anaheim, CA > > > ==== ILWILLIA Mailing List ==== > Researching in other counties in southern Illinois? Check out: > http://southern-illinois-ancestors.net/ > > > ==== ILWILLIA Mailing List ==== > Visited the Williamson County Historical Society lately? > http://www.thewchs.com >

I don't know about Army installations, but there was a Civilian Conservation Corps camp at the fairgrounds during the Great Depression. Sincerely, Jon Musgrave www.IllinoisHistory.com -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Bartholomew [mailto:healey4@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 7:24 PM To: ILWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Wmsn Co IL] Marion, Illinois Military Installation There was an Army military installation in Marion, IL in the early 1940s (certainly in 1942). Does anyone know where it was? Is any of it still there, or what is there now? Thank you very much for your help. Sharon Bartholomew Anaheim, CA ==== ILWILLIA Mailing List ==== Researching in other counties in southern Illinois? Check out: http://southern-illinois-ancestors.net/

There was an Army military installation in Marion, IL in the early 1940s (certainly in 1942). Does anyone know where it was? Is any of it still there, or what is there now? Thank you very much for your help. Sharon Bartholomew Anaheim, CA

Hi, Is there anyone that can help me with an obituary for 1868 in Marion, IL??? Was there a newspaper at the time that would carry obituaries?? Charles Dungy, who died, in West Marion, ........10/08/1868. Thank you for anyone's help, Pam S.

I am seeking information of David NORRIS and wife Martha Ann SADDLER NORRIS Martha Ann was cousin to my father I do not know if all of the following information is correct David NORRIS was born on February 14, 1884 in Williamson County, IL. He died in November 1982 in Williamson County, IL. Martha Ann SADDLER (daughter of John Green SADDLER and Harriet LANCE) was born about 1886. She died on October 26, 1950 in Jackson County, IL. David NORRIS and Martha Ann SADDLER had the following children: +2 i. Minnie NORRIS. 3 ii. Howard NORRIS was born on April 17, 1907 in Williamson County, IL. He died in December 1976 in Williamson County, IL. +4 iii. William Henry NORRIS (born on May 3, 1915). 5 iv. Raymond NORRIS was born on November 28, 1923 in Williamson County, IL. He died on December 28, 1998 in Williamson County, IL. +6 v. Charles NORRIS. +7 vi. Gene NORRIS. SECOND GENERATION 2. Minnie NORRIS. She was married to SMITH. 4. William Henry NORRIS was born on May 3, 1915 in Alexander, Thebes, IL. He died on December 13, 2000 in Williamson, Marion, IL. He was married to Edna Faye SMOTHERS. Edna Faye SMOTHERS was born on August 18, 1926. She died in December 1980 in Williamson County, IL. William Henry NORRIS and Edna Faye SMOTHERS had the following children: 8 i. Jerry NORRIS. 9 ii. Terry NORRIS. +10 iii. Jenny NORRIS. +11 iv. Barbara Ann NORRIS. +12 v. Cathy NORRIS. +13 vi. Loraine NORRIS. He was married to Beulah DUTTON on July 8, 1985. 6. Charles NORRIS. He was married to Lahoma JOHNSON (daughter of Ben JOHNSON and Laura FARREL) on December 24, 1929 in Williamson County, IL. Lahoma JOHNSON was born on August 18, 1914 in Williamson, Marion, IL. She died on May 2, 1999 in Williamson, Marion, IL. She was buried on May 5, 1999 in Maplewood Cemetery, Williamson, Marion, IL. Charles NORRIS and Lahoma JOHNSON had the following children: 14 i. Charles NORRIS. 15 ii. James NORRIS. 16 iii. Ronnie NORRIS. +17 iv. Elizabeth "Libby" NORRIS. +18 v. Virginia "Dean" NORRIS. 7. Gene NORRIS. He was married to ///. Gene NORRIS and /// had the following children: 19 i. Kenneth NORRIS. 20 ii. Micah NORRIS. 21 iii. David NORRIS. 22 iv. Carla NORRIS. 23 v. Donna NORRIS. THIRD GENERATION 10. Jenny NORRIS. She was married to WRIGHT. 11. Barbara Ann NORRIS. She was married to ODUM. 12. Cathy NORRIS. She was married to BARNES. 13. Loraine NORRIS. She was married to HENRICO. 17. Elizabeth "Libby" NORRIS. She was married to HILL. 18. Virginia "Dean" NORRIS. She was married to Richard ALLISON.

Seeking information on John A. HALE that married Mary Ellen WARD/JENKINS. Her former husband was John D. JENKINS. His parents were Samuel B. HALE and Francis Ellen POOL and he was b. in White Co. ILL, ca. 1844. His siblings were: Margaret J., Sarah R., Mary C. and Ida E. John A. HALE married Ellen JENKINS on July 13, 1867 in Saline Co. ILL. By the 1880 census they are in Williamson Co. in the Northern PCT. They had a son, Asbury HALE in 1872 in Williamson Co. I can not find them on the 1870 census and would like to know where they were. Would also like to know when and where John A. HALE died and is buried. I believe Mary Ellen JENKINS/HALE died in 1883 in Saline Co., ILL. Would like to know where she is buried also. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Rita Rita (HICKS) DonCarlos rainbow1950@netzero.com

Just passing along info about another interesting conference coming up in the area-- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Franklin County will hold its second Genealogy Conference and Workshop on July 9th, 2005 at the Gwyn Wynn Senior Citizen Center, 104 N. 10th Street, Benton, Illinois. It is open to all persons who are researching families from Franklin County, Illinois. Registration is from 8:30 to 9:00 am, followed by the morning program on Franklin County Land Records by Sheila Cadwalader. An afternoon speaker is also scheduled. Cost is $10.00 per person or couple. The Genealogy Room at the West Frankfort Library will be open late to accomodate any persons who wish to research there on Friday night, July 8th. The Frankfort Area Genealogy Society is open Wednesday and Thursday from 9-3. Other places in which to do research includes the genealogy room at the Public Library in Benton and Brehm Library in Mt. Vernon. For further information please contact Carla Pulliam at cremer@mychoice.com

Brent, There is also a Catholic Cemetery at Spillertown, although I don't know the name of it. Roy -----Original Message----- From: btaylor18@tampabay.rr.com [mailto:btaylor18@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:21 AM To: ILWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Wmsn Co IL] San Carlos cemetery? Only Catholic cemetery in Herrin around 1925? Is there only one Catholic cemetery in Herrin, Illinois? I am looking for information on a particular burial ---for Jack Forney, and have been told it might be San Carlos, but I'd love to have some further information if possible. What I'd really love to know is if any other Forney's are buried there. (Or Allison's, which is another name I am researching). Has this cemetery been transcribed anywhere? Brent ==== ILWILLIA Mailing List ==== Visited the Williamson County Historical Society lately? http://www.thewchs.com

I'm looking for any information about James L. Bolen who was born ca. 1820 in Hawkins Co., Tennessee. He and his wife Mary and children came to Williamson Co. between 1850 and 1860 from Kentucky. They appear in the 1860 census in Williamson County. Their children: Lucinda, Elizabeth, Larkin, Gilbert, Emily, Felix, John, Stokely, Millard, Martha, Joseph and Mary Margaret. I believe James L. Bolen's parents are Levi and Mary (Asher) Bowling of Hawkins County, TN. Thanks. Diane Jones

Looking for the information of the burial site for Anderson G. Pulley. A while back the historical society told me that he died on March 24 of 1900 in Williamson county, but I didn't get word of where he was buried. I am going to send for the death statement, but in the meantime if anyone knew where he was buried I'd love to know. According to the following list at at: http://www.thewchs.com/mcc/mcc_o_z.pdf he's not listed. The only one with a year of death in 1900 is an Amanda Pulley. Of course, I'm sure this list is by no means complete. Brent

Is there only one Catholic cemetery in Herrin, Illinois? I am looking for information on a particular burial ---for Jack Forney, and have been told it might be San Carlos, but I'd love to have some further information if possible. What I'd really love to know is if any other Forney's are buried there. (Or Allison's, which is another name I am researching). Has this cemetery been transcribed anywhere? Brent

This looks like a great conference; just passing on the info fyi for any in the area who are interested. Maybe someday (ha!) I will actually get to go to these sorts of things. Hope all is well with everyone. Angela ========================================= Midwestern Roots 2005: Family History and Genealogy Conference Indianapolis - Some of the nation's leading genealogy professionals will present at Midwestern Roots 2005: Family History and Genealogy Conference, August 18-20 in Indianapolis. Midwestern Roots, co-sponsored by the Indiana Historical Society and the Indiana Genealogical Society, will feature over 30 presentations covering topics ranging from finding female ancestors, census substitutes, family food traditions and German SS records to baptismal records, preserving family papers, genetics and more. Optional pre-conference activities on Thursday, August 18, range from tours of the William Henry Smith Memorial Library, the Indiana State Library and the Indiana State Archives to writing workshops on preparing family histories for publication, computer labs on genealogy resources available on the internet and a workshop designed for library staff and volunteers who answer questions from genealogy patrons. The Genealogy Division of the Indiana State Library and the Indiana History Center Smith Library also will stay open late for extended research hours. Other activities include a lively panel discussion bringing together genealogists and historians to answer the question, "History and Genealogy: Why Not Both?" The evening will begin with a dessert reception at the Indiana History Center followed by a discussion with nationally-renowned historical genealogists Elizabeth Shown Mills and Curt B. Witcher, Indiana historian James H. Madison and migration historian Marianne S. Wokeck, who will explore how these fields can enrich each other, from uncovering the slightest detail of one life to seeing human history more clearly because of that life. On Friday, August 19, the conference will begin with the opening session by Mills. Mills will explain the standards and processes all researchers need to apply when using family history and genealogical sources. Friday will conclude with a banquet and Mills will give a presentation that encourages taking what is learned about ancestors and conveying it to descendants. On Saturday morning, Madison will begin the day by considering the various migration streams that settled the Midwest and show how their origins, timing and cultural features helped make the region a distinctive part of the nation. Other notable national speakers include genealogists John S. Humphrey, Diane Gagel, Elizabeth Kelley Kerstens, Tony Burroughs and Kandie Adkinson. The Indiana Historical Society and the Indiana Genealogical Society will offer six scholarships for individuals to attend the conference. The scholarship application can be found at www.indianahistory.org/midwesternroots <outbind://57/www.indianahistory.org/midwesternroots> . Additional conference information, registration forms and exhibitor information can be found at www.indianahistory.org/midwesternroots <outbind://57/www.indianahistory.org/midwesternroots> or by calling (317) 232-1882. Hotel reservations can be made by calling the Indianapolis Marriott East at (317) 352-1231 or (800) 228-9290. Indicate association with Midwestern Roots 2005 upon making reservations to receive the special $92/night room rate. Room reservations must be made by August 1. The Indiana Genealogical Society promotes genealogical and historical research and education. Annual membership benefits include six issues of the IGS Newsletter; quarterly issues of the Indiana Genealogist with a cumulative index; discounts on IGS publications, workshop and conference registrations; opportunities to volunteer in genealogy related projects; access to free Query submissions, Speaker's Bureau, Researcher's List, Librarian Scholarship, Chapter Grants and special service recognition awards. (www.indgensoc.org <outbind://57/www.indgensoc.org> ) Since 1830, the Indiana Historical Society has been Indiana's storyteller, connecting people to the past by collecting, preserving, interpreting and disseminating Indiana history. The independent, nonprofit organization also publishes books and periodicals; sponsors teacher workshops; provides youth, adult and family programming; assists local historical groups throughout the state; and maintains one of the world's largest collection of material on the history of Indiana and the Old Northwest. The Indiana Historical Society is one of the oldest historical societies in the United States, and one of the largest with more than 10,000 members. (www.indianahistory.org <outbind://57/www.indianahistory.org> )

Dear Williamson county forum members, A few days ago the original manuscript records of Salem Regular Baptist Church, organized in 1827 and reorganized in 1848, were turned over to us to keep in our Primitive Baptist library collection here in Carthage, Hancock County, Illinois. They had been in private hands. Also turned in to us were the records of Pleasant Hill Regular Baptist Church at Johnston City. The Regular Baptist churches of that time period which still exist are now called Primitive Baptists. I would be happy to obtain a copy of a photo of the Pleasant Hill Church building at Johnston City. I'm pretty sure it is gone now but was there maybe 30 or 35 years ago. I have now gone through the records of Salem Church and entered the names of members into our database, with the date they joined, and the year of death, wherever possible. I have also updated the historical information on our website for Salem Church, and corrected and updated the list of surnames of members. As time permits, I will be glad to communicate with anyone whom this information may help. Feel free to write to me privately, or on the forum. If you wish to see the information regarding this church, and other Primitive Baptist churches in Franklin county (or other counties in Illinois and other states), go to the following URL: http://www.carthage.lib.il.us/community/churches/primbap/pbl.html and click on the following link for the index of states: http://www.carthage.lib.il.us/community/churches/primbap/Index.html or, go directly to Franklin county: http://www.carthage.lib.il.us/community/churches/primbap/FamHist-Franklin .html If any of these URL's break into two lines, you must put them back together to work. Sincerely, Robert Webb

Maggie This is just a possibility. I have a Ruth R HAYS who married Standford PRITCHARD living in 1870 Cave twp FCI apparently near Williamson Co. In 1850 they are living in Simpson Co Ky (transcribed census online). They are living next to many HAYS, noticed you mentioned Ky or Tn. John

I'm trying to put together some facts for my mother and need help getting marriage certificate information from the Williamson County Courthouse ~ ideally this week. I've identified 5 marriage certificates that I would like copied - or digital photos would be fine. If you can help, please contact me off list so we can make mutually agreeable arrangements. I'll be in town this weekend, but not during business hours, or I'd love to go do this myself. You never know what unsuspecting tidbit might be found . Thanks so much! ~Marcia -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .