Someone asked what I learned from all the responses I received about the Italian bakery in Herrin. Here's a summary: I got about a dozen responses from different people, some of whom still live in Herrin. Some said the bakery was called Camerio's, Mario's, Comerio's, and Towne Bakery - but I think the one I remember was called Comerio's. I found a Comerio family in the 1920 census who owned a bakery on West Monroe, the location I remember. I also found an obituary for a Clara Comerio from Herrin who died in January 2005, and it said that she and her husband owned Comerio's Bakery (his parents apparently owned it before them). I also discovered a granddaughter of theirs in New Orleans who owns a catering business. She said on her Web site that she learned a lot about cooking Italian food from her grandfather who owned Comerio's Bakery (I'm thinking she may know how to make that wonderful bread!). Some people believe the bakery I'm looking for is called Towne Bakery. I'm wondering if it might have been called Comerio's Towne Bakery. Sounds like both bakeries made wonderful bread and donuts. A few people remember being sent to Comerio's to get bread when they were little and being scolded when they got home because they were compelled to eat some of it on the way. Other people, including my sister, remember that at Comerio's you went in the side door to get fresh bread on Sunday night, and I remember that myself. (We used to have it for Sunday supper at my grandparents' with whipped unsalted butter.) In Austin, Texas, where I live, I have found only one bread that comes even close - an organic French batard made by Central Market. Thanks again to everyone for sharing their memories! Susan

Looking for info on Lora D. Head married Laurence Hill had a son Freddy born 1899. Pat

Thanks for sharing memories of the Italian bakery. This must be the same Italian bakery that Benny's in Marion bought bread from back in the 1950's and 60's. --------------- Subject: Re: [Wmsn Co IL] Re: Italian bakery in Herrin > Sorry I missed the original string on this, but had to make some > comments. > Our favorite all time bakery in the entire world was Camario's (sp?). It > was > on Monroe Street in Herrin. The best was experienced late night on > Sunday > night--hot off the press--better than any Krispy Kreme or Parisian bakery > in > existence today. It turns out that one of our friends was somehow > related to > that family by marriage in later life. So if the question was of that > nature, please let me know. > > We can taste those pastries now . . . > > Cheers, > Richard Higdon (Class of 66 Herrin) > Jo Ann Avery Henderson Higdon (Class of 67 Johnston City) > now residing in: > Bermuda Dunes, CA > (home of the Bob Hope Chrysler Classic) >

Sorry I missed the original string on this, but had to make some comments. Our favorite all time bakery in the entire world was Camario's (sp?). It was on Monroe Street in Herrin. The best was experienced late night on Sunday night--hot off the press--better than any Krispy Kreme or Parisian bakery in existence today. It turns out that one of our friends was somehow related to that family by marriage in later life. So if the question was of that nature, please let me know. We can taste those pastries now . . . Cheers, Richard Higdon (Class of 66 Herrin) Jo Ann Avery Henderson Higdon (Class of 67 Johnston City) now residing in: Bermuda Dunes, CA (home of the Bob Hope Chrysler Classic)

What did you learn? Carolyn Quoting nimbus@austin.rr.com: > Thanks to everyone who responded to my request about the Italian bakery > in Herrin! > Susan > > > ==== ILWILLIA Mailing List ==== > Obits from the Marion Daily Republican: > http://www.mariondaily.com/obituaries/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Would love to hear about the Italian bakery in Herrin. ------------------Susan Wrote------------------- Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:43 AM Subject: [Wmsn Co IL] Re: Italian bakery in Herrin > Thanks to everyone who responded to my request about the Italian bakery > in Herrin! > Susan

Thanks to everyone who responded to my request about the Italian bakery in Herrin! Susan

Thank you to those who helped me determine that my Mary Ann Ledbetter Morse (b1842 in IL or KY) could NOT be the daughter of Matthew Ledbetter who was born about 1800 in Kentucky, or of Wiley Ledbetter, son of Mathew Ledbetter. Having eliminated them, I am now focusing on the next most likely prospect for a relative, James R. Ledbetter. James R. Ledbetter cannot be my Mary Ann Ledbetter's father because she does not appear in his household in 1850 when she would have been 8 years old, but he and Sarah J. Ledbetter appear to be somehow related to her. Here are the census entries for James R. Ledbetter's family in 1850 and 1860: 1850 Federal Census, Massac County, Illinois 19 September 1850, page 244A, lines 37-41, Dwelling & Family #402: James Ledbetter, 30, Ky (1840 Census shows Alabama), farmer Viney A., 28, Alabama (Alvina Mosier?) Nancy A., 6, Illinois Westley, 4, Illinois (***See note immediately below***) Minerva, 1, Illinois 1860 Federal Census: The only Ledbetters listed in Massac County, Illinois are family #829, at George's Creek P.O. . . . James, 40, Alabama Lavina, 34. Alabama Nancy, 16, Illinois Wesley, 14, Illinois (***See note immediately below ***) Cyntha, 8, Illinois Haspoling, 4, Illinois Vienna, 1, Illinois Note that son, Wesley Ledbetter (b1846), married Emeline Stephenson first (1867) and Minta Grimes third (1884). Mary Ann Ledbetter Morse's daughter, Cordelia, married Jasper Stephenson in the same county, 1878! Mary Ann Ledbetter Morse's other daughter, Sarah, married John Copland Ward in 1888. George Washington Thrasher and Lucy Grimes were the witnesses at this wedding. George Washington Thrasher married Sarah J. Ledbetter who was the daughter of Wesley Ledbetter and the granddaughter of James R. Ledbetter. SOMEHOW MY MARY ANN IS CONNECTED TO JAMES R. LEDBETTER, BORN TN(?) ABOUT 1820; AS WELL AS TO HIS GRANDDAUGHTER, SARAH J. LEDBETTER WHO MARRIED GEORGE WASHINGTON THRASHER. After witnessing the wedding of Mary Ann Ledbetter Morse's daughter, they lived just 3 doors away according to the 1860 Grand Chain, Pulaski County, Illinois census Is anyone on this list familiar with these folks? Debbie Ward McArdle

Is anyone on this list working on Mathew LEDBETTER who lived in Caldwell County, Kentucky; Southern Illinois and Desha County, Arkansas? I am trying to determine if a child identified as 'Marion' in the John N. Ledbetter's biography in "Biographical Review of Johnson, Massac, Pope and Hardin Counties, Illinois" could possibly have been 'Mary Ann'. I have not yet requested Mathew LEDBETTER's probate from the 1850 Desha County Arkansas records, but thought someone on this list might know. If she is not the daughter of Mathew LEDBETTER, she may be his granddaughter through his son, Wiley Ledbetter For 2 decades I have been looking for Mary Ann LEDBETTER's parents, and each time the facts take me back to Mathew and Rachel LEDBETTER as her parents or paternal grandparents. Following is my Mary Ann LEDBETTER's information: MARY ANN LEDBETTER 1.) My Mary Ann was born 1842 in Illinois, per 1860 Massac County, Illinois Census where she appears with her husband, John T. MORSE. This matches the info in the "Biographical Review" which states that Mathew LEDBETTER moved to Illinois in 1842. 2.) Have not located Mathew LEDBETTER's family on the 1850 Desha County, Arkansas Census, but understand it appears on page 71A. Does anyone have access to this? I only have Heritage Quest and it doesn't cover 1850. My Mary Ann Ledbetter cannot be found on the 1850 Illinois Census. The Mary Ann Ledbetter who is living in Hardin County cannot be my Mary Ann Ledbetter as she is married to a different man. The 1850 Census for Hopkins County, Kentucky (right next to Caldwell County, KY where Mathew LEDBETTER had lived) shows a "Mary V. Leadbetter", born 1842. This Mary V. Leadbetter is shown as the d/o Wiley (b1822 Ky, merchant) and Nancy Leadbetter. This Wiley may be the son of Matthew Ledbetter 3.) Mary Ann Ledbetter married 23 August 1857, Massac County, to John T. Morse who was born in Caldwell County, Kentucky where Mathew LEDBETTER had lived. Her husband died in the Civil War, 28 Dec 1863 Natchez, Miss. 4.) Children: Cordelia "Della" Morse, born 7 May 1858, Massac County, Ill. married Jasper N. Stephenson, lived in Boaz, Massac County, IL Sarah Francis Morse, born 28 Feb 1861, Massac County, Ill. married John Ward, lived in the Grand Chain / Karnak area of Pulaski County, IL 5.) She marries second, Carroll Johnson Young, 15 July 1866, Williamson County, Illinois. Pension applications regarding the children of John T. Morse are filed with the federal government and confirm family relationships for two generations. 6.) Mary Ann Ledbetter Morse Young Dies 30 May 1870, Williamson County, Illinois. 7.) Custody battles for the two children begin, between the step-father, Carrol Johnson Young, and the paternal uncle, Drury C. Morse of Massac County. Drury C. Morse wins and is awarded guardianship. Children return to Massac County. Is anyone else working on Wiley, Mathew or Mary Ann Ledbetter? Debbie Ward McArdle

Does anyone remember the name of a little Italian bakery west of downtown Herrin and a little north of the railroad track? I remember going there with my grandparents to get the most wonderful Italian bread when I was young. The bakery was in the front, but you went in the side door to get the fresh loaves of bread. The bakery closed probably sometime in the 1960s, when the owner died. I heard that he didn't reveal the recipe for the bread to anyone, so it was never made anymore. I've only found one bread since then that even slightly compares. Thanks. Susan

In a message dated 10/13/2005 8:33:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, jjj@fidnet.com writes: Hi Lister... Could some one tell me if there is a 1865 State Census for Williamson Co IL. If does anyone have access to this Census? Dear Joyce, There is a State Census for Williamson Co IL, I obtained a microfilmed copy of it several years ago through interlibrary loan at the Mid-Continent Genealogy library in Independence MO. I would imagine it can be obtained through the LDS Family History Centers, too. The Williamson Co IL census evidently had some damage to its pages and certain portions are difficult to read, of course it was the pages that I needed for my Burnetts and Clarida's in the Crab Orchard area. I was able to reconstruct the numbers by reading totals at the bottom and sides, but a few names were obliterated, too. Since this is a snapshot of a time directly at the end of the Civil War, it was interesting to note how closely the families lined up, unlike in the years 1860 and 1870, where families will be together in the general vicinity, but can be separated by several of their neighbors. I noticed this for several collateral families that are usually living close to the Burnetts and Clarida's, as well. I'm sorry, I don't have information on the Owen's brothers. Joanne Clarida Shrout Independence, MO

Hi Lister... Could some one tell me if there is a 1865 State Census for Williamson Co IL. If does anyone have access to this Census? I am looking a Green B Owen/Owens Family.. b-1825 TN also looking for his brother William J Owen/Owens b-- 1833 TN thanks for any help or Clue Help is appreciated Joyce in Mo/

If anyone has a listing of the Hampton Cemt., Carterville, IL, could you please look to see if there are any Gulley's buried there? Thank you Linda

Wilmoth McMannis or McMann is living with her daughter Ora Age 28 and her son-in-law Charles Wagoner age 36 on the 1920 Census. They have 2 daughers, Pauline age 11 and Opal ? age 9 and a niece __?___Wagoner age 16. Wilmoth's name is very hard to read and ancestry.com reads it as Wilmuth McMann. On the 1930 census she is listed as Wilma Donihoo age 75 widowed and living with her daughter Ora and her husband Charles. On this census they have a daugher Virginia age 8. There was a Samuel McManus that died April 1920 in Williamson Co., Cambria Twp. This may have been her husband. Do you have a death certificate?? I was unable to find her on the IL. Death Index. She should be there if she died in 1937. Hope this helps some. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "John DeVinney" <jdevinney@midsouth.rr.com> To: <ILWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 11:14 AM Subject: [Wmsn Co IL] McMannis, Huddleston, Dunihoo, Donahoo etc > I have finally found my Great Grandmother Wilmoth Huddleston in the 1920 > census of Energy. Thanks for the ONLINE version of that census !. She is > listed as a 64 year old widower and is listed with a surname of McMannis. I > have looked around for any McMannis names in the area and find none. We > believe that this was her second married name but no one could recall the > mans name or when. We know that she was buried by her first married name of > Dunihoo in Herrin City Cemetery in 1937. Her first husband was John J > Donahue (Donahoo). > > I would appreciate any suggestions to find or identify this > McMannis, or help me find any Huddleston records. > > John > Memphis > > > > ==== ILWILLIA Mailing List ==== > Researching in other counties in southern Illinois? Check out: > http://southern-illinois-ancestors.net/ >

I have finally found my Great Grandmother Wilmoth Huddleston in the 1920 census of Energy.  Thanks for the ONLINE version of that census !. She is listed as a 64 year old widower and is listed with a surname of McMannis.  I have looked around for any McMannis names in the area and find none.  We believe that this was her second married name but no one could recall the mans name or when.  We know that she was buried by her first married name of Dunihoo in Herrin City Cemetery in 1937.  Her first husband was John J Donahue (Donahoo). I would appreciate any suggestions to find or identify this McMannis, or help me find any Huddleston records. John Memphis

Minnie Susann Lakey Brumley (61) b. March 23, 1879 Williamson County, Illinois d. June 8, 1940, Los Angeles, California Where was she buried? What was Cause of Death? Do you have a copy of her Obituary? Newton A. Brumley (74) b. February 11, 1874 Wheeling , Marion County Iowa d. January 16, 1948, Shattuck Hospital, Shattuck Oklahoma Buried Highpoint Cemetery Buffalo, Oklahoma What was Cause of death? Do you have copy of his Obituary? Do you know anything about his marriage to Wife---Lillian Hamner? Kenneth M. Lakey klakey@adams.net

Emma E. Lakey Bozarth (22) b. June 6, 1876, Williamson County, Illinois d. July 24, 1898, Waterloo, Kingman County, Kansas Buried Lebanon Cemetery, Waterloo, Kingman County, Kansas What was Cause of Death? Do you have a copy of her Obituary? Almon Towel Bozarth (83) b September 12, 1870 Brumley, Miller County, Missouri d. September 22, 1953, Pampa, Grayson County, Texas Where was he buried? What was Cause of Death? Do you have a copy of his Obituary? Kenneth M. Lakey klakey@adams.net

2 Ruth Ellen Lakey Neal (58) b. November 3, 1870 Williamson County, Illinois d. March 5, 1928, Unknown Where did she Die? Where was she buried? What was the Cause of death? Do you have a copy of her Obituary? John Neal d. April 1911 Colorado b. November 25, 1847, Kentucky- d. April 1911, Colorado Where was he buried? What was the Cause of death? Do you have a copy of his Obituary? Kenneth M. Lakey klakey@adams.net

Hi Williamson County List: Just a reminder that the Genealogy Society of Southern IL will host it's annual Book Fair and Genealogy Conference this Saturday October 8th from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. at the John A. Logan College in Carterville, IL off Rt. 13. The Williamson County Historical Society will be there with all their books as well as several other Williamson County book sellers. Hope to see you there. Please stop by and say hello. Charla Murphy WCHS Genealogy Visit the Williamson County Historical Society at: www.thewchs.com

I am researching a James Edward Perryman family that appears in Williamson Co. at the time of the 1910, 1920 and 1930 censuses. Three known children were Mary, Esther and Paul C. Any information on this family would be appreciated. Thank you. Bill Huckaby