I just created a site at yahoogroups where we can put pictures. It is not meant to replace this group. Info follows: If you have problems joining, contact me. Mary Ann Walker Hubbell ole_crone@yahoo.com I'll try to get some photos posted ASAP from my Walker/McAlpin families. Group name:LittleEgyptGroup home page:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LittleEgyptGroup email:LittleEgypt@yahoogroups.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I have photographs, too, some of which I can't identify, especially of Southern Illinois families, and probably related to the Walkers and Murrays. Most are definitely late 1800s. Does anyone know of a site on-line where I might post them and see if anyone knows who they might be? I would like to share these pictures with others. Thanks. Susan

What a great idea! My great grandfather, James Benjamin Walker married Mary Ellen Spiller and I was wondering if you might have any pics of their large family. Your email helped me to realize that we should let you know what we have in our files. I have photos of Rev. Hugh McAlpin (2 - one is a copy of a tintype) His wife, Charlotte Allen Photos of Ira Walker/Grace McAlpin's family from the late 40's Photo of Hugh McAlpin's Bible Pics from the McAlpin Cemetery, Roderick Reed cemetery, Herrin/g family headstones Joseph McAlpin John Butler McAlpin/Mary Susan Boney James Benjamin Walker David Hunter McAlpin James Selkirk Walker and his wife Martha Bandy Grace McAlpin with her oldest three living boys - Earl, Rex (John) & Ned. Contact me if you'd like me to email you any of these. A little bird told me that there is a pic of Grace McAlpin Walker out there with her 6 boys - I'd love to get a copy of that! Mary Ann --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!

I have been sorting many old photographs from Williamson Co., McNeills and their kin (Walkers, Spillers and other unknowns). I would love to share these pictures with anyone who might be interested. I’m also looking for a photo of Isham Blankenship who married Polly Spiller – I have Polly would love to have Isham. Is there a picture out there? Sandra H. Robison

Please visit us at the GSSI Book Fair Saturday 8 - 3 at the John A. Logan College. There will many different vendors there with books and other genealogical items for sale. Stop by and say hello. Charla Murphy Visit the Williamson County Historical Society <www.thewchs.com>

The Mormon church (North of JC on 37) has all of the records from ancestry.com for free at the church now. You can use their computer to look-up this records for free. They are open on Tue. 9am-4pm. Marty

The Chamness was a large family in Marion, IL. She is not related to my extended family, but will write a cousin who lives in the area in IL and ask her what she knows or can find out for you.

Yes I made a type error thank you for bring that to my attention. Please Let me try again. Hello I am trying to tract down the family of this women. Does any one have her in there data and if you do can you please share what you have with us. Nora CHAMNESS Marion Williamson IL she was born April 1874. She married Marcus W BLACK on 11 30 1889 in Williamson IL Thank you for any thing Jeanie

Hello I am trying to tract down the family of this women and man. Does any one have her in there data and if you do can you please share what you have with us. Nora CHAMNESS Marion Williamson IL she was born April 1874. She married Marcus W BLACK on 11 30 1883 in Williamson IL I am also trying to find the parents of Marus W BLACK he was born May 1869 in IL . Thank you for any thing Jeanie

Could someone please look in a death record, obits, or any other records, to see if they fine ADA (HENSHAW) REECE. She was still living in 1963 according to my grandfather's obit. She possibly could have died abt. 1966. It also could be listed under Mary Ada Henshaw Reece. Thank you and I really appreciate it. Linda

Steve, Virginia Provost of the Wigton Walkers is looking for you. I told her I'd post a message here to see if you were still around. Mary Ann --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!

Susan, Angela and all, Thanks for letting us know about this issue, I checked the website this evening and sure enough.... someone has hacked into the server and replaced the index file they also added a sound file and other goodies. I am currently taking measures to prevent this from happening in the future. To the many folks on this list who host web sites, it may be a good precaution to change passwords and other connections to your host providers/servers. Tis a shame that some people have enough time to crack passwords, find ip addresses and hack into FTP sites to create this kind of aggravation. Presently thewchs site is up and running, but there may some missing links, etc., until I resolve all the issues with the server. Sorry for the inconvenience to all who have tried to visit this site in the last day or so. Regards, Bailey Williams Site admin thewchs.com baileywilliams@cox.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Burneson" <nimbus@austin.rr.com> To: <ILWILLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 9:39 AM Subject: [Wmsn Co IL] WCHS Web site > I've just subscribed to this list, and in checking the Williamson County > Historical Society Web site <http://www.thewchs.com/> > the other day, I noticed that the main page appears to have been hacked. > Has anyone else encountered this? > Susan > > > ==== ILWILLIA Mailing List ==== > Visited the Williamson County Historical Society lately? > http://www.thewchs.com > >

While this is not exactly genealogy-related, for the folks away from southern Illinois I wanted to pass on the sad news that we have lost a brave local soldier in Iraq. Sgt. Benjamin Smith, a 24-year-old Marine from Carterville, was killed in action on Wednesday while engaging the enemy. I am most certainly NOT attempting to start any political discussion on this list, just passing along the sad news and asking for prayers for the Smith family of Carterville. An article about Sgt. Smith is online at The Southern Illinoisan: http://www.southernillinoisan.com/rednews/2004/09/24/build/top/TOP001.html Angela

Thanks Angela for the thread, a common opinion and topic of many lists. However I would like to point out a few things from a different perspective. I am not a purist, so color me guilty. I do have a modest gedcom and I have made sure that I have the vital records posted at several places online. I do not post notes and do not share any information on the living unless you are a proven cousin. I do maintain my own web page plus I have submitted my "cleaned file" to several reputable services. However, I know there are errors and discrepancies in my file, oh horrors. I also know that I have holes in my files, as I frequently have to guess a birth decade for individuals and even to give people a name like "unknown". How so very inappropriate. Yes I try to prove and proof. I have an electronic file of well over 2000 emails saved and indexed by surname with reference source information. I also have two full drawers full of paper information all indexed and dated, yet I still have errors. I work diligently at correcting mistakes and to seek the input of all of the sources that I can find. I find that I record all sources of conflicting information in my notes but alas we can only show one record, so I must guess as to which source is the most correct. Can someone provide a source priority table to determine which source ranks the best to the worst, as I can never figure it out. However I believe that our quest is to serve. In a typical month I provide 50 times more information than I receive. I receive about 50 contacts a month from my posted information, many are misses but the solid hits are wonderful. In my file I have but one tree of my proven family members, and at least 50 non connected trees that consist of family members that are not connected to me. I work diligently to provide connections from people that contact me, as I get the time. I provide information on the few sources that I actually own and serve two surname lists and participate in many others. But lets be real, most "new" contacts are from senior citizens who are trying to provide a legacy for there own grandchildren. Most have limited information to share but they share what they can. I personally feel blessed by there effort and remain hopeful that someone "finds me" each day. I gratefully share with them all of the information that I can. I wish that they had solid source material, I wish that they had verifiable information, but lets face it how many serious researchers are out there ?. Without question I become annoyed with the weekly request to dump someone a gedcom just because they want a nice start. I too am plagued by the dated posts of mine especially when I perceived a wrong relationship. But I continue to share, are choice is to share freely or turn off our computers. Well over 50 percent of my file has originated from people who have found me. I hope that everyone continues to share what they can responsibly share. We remain proud of our efforts, to brighten someone's day or to assist someone in the search of there own family. Every one of us has story's to share on how we connected people, we have connected brothers, sisters, close cousins, and distant cousins. If that was wrong then we should turn off our computers. If you are still reading this I would suggest that everyone place as much of there information online as possible. Please do it responsibly but please just do it. John Memphis

Susan, yes, I think you're right. I emailed the society a day ago about this. Frankly, I think this sort of thing is terrifying - I am only barely "Internet-savvy" enough to have a website up and running in the first place! Can't imagine what all one needs to do to be totally "hacker-proof." I'm sure the WCHS site will be back and running soon. Angela Williamson County, ILGenWeb http://www.people.ku.edu/~place/williamson.html

I've just subscribed to this list, and in checking the Williamson County Historical Society Web site <http://www.thewchs.com/> the other day, I noticed that the main page appears to have been hacked. Has anyone else encountered this? Susan

I am searching for info on Ada HENSHAW Reece/Reese. I think, her b. date is Nov. 1894, unsure of this, and she d. after 1963, according to my grandfather's obit. She was his sister. In 1963 she was living in Washington DC, however, I think, she possibly could have moved to Saline Co. after that. I do not know her husband's first name. Can anyone help or guide me to finding her husband. Thank you. Linda

Remember to keep track of when that Bible was printed. There was a well-known 'genealogist' Anjou (I think that is the name I remember) who wrote many fake genealogies (his rich clientele just loved his wonderful research). He included complete dates to make it seem more believeable. Lastly, One reason I love The Master Genealogist so much is because I can record all those different dates with sources and notes. I'm not confined to just seeing one date on the individual page. Mary Ann --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!

A little humor helps............ MURPHY'S LAW FOR GENALOGISTS The public ceremony in which your distinguished ancestor participated and at which the platform collapsed under him turned out to be a hanging. When at last after much hard work you have solved the mystery you have been working on for two years, your aunt says, "I could have told you that." Your grandmother's maiden name that you have searched for four years was in a letter in a box in the attic all the time. You never asked your father about his family when he was alive because you weren't interested in genealogy then. The will you need is in the safe on board the Titanic. Copies of old newspapers have holes occurring only on the surnames. John, son of Thomas, the immigrant whom your relatives claim as the family progenitor, died on board ship at age 10. Your great-grandfather's newspaper obituary states that he died leaving no issue of record. The keeper of the vital records you need has just been insulted by another genealogist. The relative who had all the family photographs gave them all to her daughter, who has no interest in genealogy and no inclination to share. The only record you find for your great-grandfather is that his property was sold at a sheriff's sale for insolvency. The one document that would supply the missing link in your dead-end line has been lost due to fire, flood or war. The town clerk to whom you wrote for the information sends you a long handwritten letter which is totally illegible. The spelling of your European ancestors' name bears no relationship to the current spelling or pronunciation. None of the pictures in your recently deceased grandmother's photo album have names written on them. No one in your family tree ever did anything noteworthy, owned property, was sued or was named in wills. You learn that your great aunt's executor just sold her life's collection of family genealogical materials to a flea market dealer "somewhere in New York City." Ink fades and paper deteriorates at a rate inversely proportional to the value of the data recorded. The 37 volume, sixteen thousand page history of your county of origin isn't indexed. You finally find your grandparent's wedding records and discover that the bride's father was named "John Smith".

Thanks to everyone who replied to my question about unsubstantiated information on the Internet. I appreciate all the thoughtful responses - I've said it before, but I'll say it again: This list is one of the best! And that must say something about who we all are and where we came from. :> I especially appreciate how people really try to think through the complications and ramifications of the issue. I wanted to send this message out especially to Loraine Miller and anyone else who is relatively "new" to genealogy: I DEFINITELY support people using the Internet, and posting information on the Internet, for genealogy. As Judie Boone said, there are so many pieces of information I would never have found, and wonderful "cousins" I would never have met (including Dr. Dan, who is probably right that I do "nitpick" :> at times). And I think each of us ultimately makes lots of decisions all the time about what is and is NOT reputable information. It's a wonderful thing when an Internet site can provide the clue or relationship you've been looking for, for years. But also to all the newer folks, I say please do cite your information in some way in your files. Peg Jones & Debbie McArdle & several others posted about keeping things as straight and as documented as they can be. What's frustrating to me is when someone can't tell me in any shape, form, or fashion where they found some piece of information. They just saw it somewhere and added it to their own file. Just to know that they copied it from X website would be helpful to me. (And I know websites come and go all the time, so I won't even get started on that.) But whatever your source is, please do note it so that you can pass that information on to someone in the future, if need be. Jo Ann and Dennis, I share your pain about the general confusion of folks. :> Ellen, that "maidenunk" story is the funniest thing I have heard in a long time, although I am sure it was not funny to you. :> Happy hunting, all - Angela