Dear Lynne, Thanks very much! I did not have Jessie's exact birthdate OR death date, so this is very helpful! I would indeed be interested in Ross's birth and death dates, if you have them. I do have Jessie and Ross's marriage date, and have searching the 1900 (and 1910) censuses on my to-do list. I've found them on the 1920 census (since that is indexed)--by then they were in Long Beach. If I find any descendants, I will be happy to pass them on! Also happy to share what I have on the Pickel and Munch families (with you or anyone else who may be interested). Thanks again, Martha Grenzeback graymatters@alltel.net At 02:43 PM 16-02-2003 -0700, raybaillargeon5792@msn.com wrote: >Yes, Ross was a younger brother of Ernest and son of Henry Allison Shiffer >and Prudence M. Pinneo. I am trying to find descendants of this family for >someone has found a picture of Prudence and would like to restore it to >family members. I am a researcher of the SHIFFER line, although I descend >from a different branch. Henry was the son of James Elliott Shiffer >(sometimes spelled SHEFFER). James was an older brother of my ancestor, >William Shiffer. I am afraid the only information I have on Jessie Pickel >is this: Jessie M. Shiffer (father's surname Picker, mother's maiden name >Munch) born March 3, 1872 in IL, died June 2, 1952 in Los Angeles Co., CA >(probably in Long Beach). They were married in Will Co. IL - you probably >have the marriage date (if not it is online)..Have you checked the 1900 >census in Illinois? Perhaps their children were born in IL and some may >appear on the census record. Henry A. Shiffer was a veteran of the Civil >War, as was his brother James. Their grandfather, Daniel Shiffer served in >the War of 1812. I have much more SHIFFER information if you are interested, >but nothing on the Pickel line. > >Lynne > > >----- Original Message ----- >Wrom: SZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSK >To: <ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:22 AM >Subject: Re: [ILWILL] Shiffer > > > > Would there be any connection with a Ross Shiffer, who married Jessie > > Pickel on 31 July 1890 in Will Co., almost certainly Joliet? This couple > > was living in Long Beach, CA as of 1928. I am trying to find out more > > about the Pickel family--Jessie was born about 1873 in Will Co., the > > daughter of Charles H. Pickel and Matilda Munch (I kid you not), who lived > > in Joliet. I don't know anything about Ross, but would like to trace any > > descendants they may have had. > > > > Best wishes, > > Martha Grenzeback > > graymatters@alltel.net > > > > > > At 07:09 AM 16-02-2003 -0700, raybaillargeon5792@msn.com wrote: > > >Trying to find an obituary for Ella Shiffer, who died May 1 1942 in > > >Joliet. Looking for descendants in an effort to help a kind person who > > >wants to return a picture of Ella's mother-in-law (Prudence Pinneo > > >Shiffer) to the family. > > > > > >Thanks so much, > > >Lynne > > > > > > > > >==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== > > >Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ > > >Email listowner @ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/my-email.htm > > > > > > ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== > > Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ > > Email listowner @ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/my-email.htm > > > > >==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== >Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ >Email listowner @ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/my-email.htm