I checked the 1880 LDS transcription of the 1880 census and found the following: Herman Sellinger Butcher age 25 Prus Prus Prus Eva wife 28 Prus Prus Prus Herman other 4 months Ill Prus Prus Normally, I would expect little Herman to be the son of Herman Sr and wife, Eva. However, his relationship to the head of household is listed as ~other~. Since he is evidently named after the head of household, he surely would either be his son...OR...an orphaned nephew named after Herman Sr. But...he could just as well have been an orphaned baby they took in and renamed...and weren't officially yet calling him their son. If little Herman was a Nephew, or step son, the designation should have said that instead of ~other~, which was given to unrelated outsiders in the household. Still...mistakes happened in all census data...so he could still have been their blood son, and the census taker just got it wrong. This was the only entry in Will Co for Sellingers...though there were several in Cook Co, nearby....and there were a good amount scattered around the state...some down in St. Clair Co , across from St. Louise...and Montgomery Co as well as a few other locations. Hope this helps. Julie Bissell Tupker

The LDS has done a tremendous job, putting the 1880 census online, but they did make a few errors. The listing for the Sellinger family in Joliet on Ancestry.com's online images shows a blank space in the "relationship" column for baby Herman, where the LDS has inserted "other." ----- Original Message ----- From: <JulieBskt@aol.com> To: <ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 2:54 PM Subject: [ILWILL] 1880 Sellinger > I checked the 1880 LDS transcription of the 1880 census and found the > following: > > Herman Sellinger Butcher age 25 Prus Prus Prus > Eva wife 28 Prus Prus Prus > Herman other 4 months Ill Prus Prus > > Normally, I would expect little Herman to be the son of Herman Sr and wife, > Eva. However, his relationship to the head of household is listed as > ~other~. Since he is evidently named after the head of household, he surely > would either be his son...OR...an orphaned nephew named after Herman Sr. > But...he could just as well have been an orphaned baby they took in and > renamed...and weren't officially yet calling him their son. If little Herman > was a Nephew, or step son, the designation should have said that instead of > ~other~, which was given to unrelated outsiders in the household. > Still...mistakes happened in all census data...so he could still have been > their blood son, and the census taker just got it wrong. > > This was the only entry in Will Co for Sellingers...though there were several > in Cook Co, nearby....and there were a good amount scattered around the > state...some down in St. Clair Co , across from St. Louise...and Montgomery > Co as well as a few other locations. > > > Hope this helps. > > Julie Bissell Tupker > > ______________________________

Thanks Julie, I have been remissed not to have responded sooner. Tricia M. ----- Original Message ----- From: JulieBskt@aol.com To: ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 12:54 PM Subject: [ILWILL] 1880 Sellinger I checked the 1880 LDS transcription of the 1880 census and found the following: Herman Sellinger Butcher age 25 Prus Prus Prus Eva wife 28 Prus Prus Prus Herman other 4 months Ill Prus Prus Normally, I would expect little Herman to be the son of Herman Sr and wife, Eva. However, his relationship to the head of household is listed as ~other~. Since he is evidently named after the head of household, he surely would either be his son...OR...an orphaned nephew named after Herman Sr. But...he could just as well have been an orphaned baby they took in and renamed...and weren't officially yet calling him their son. If little Herman was a Nephew, or step son, the designation should have said that instead of ~other~, which was given to unrelated outsiders in the household. Still...mistakes happened in all census data...so he could still have been their blood son, and the census taker just got it wrong. This was the only entry in Will Co for Sellingers...though there were several in Cook Co, nearby....and there were a good amount scattered around the state...some down in St. Clair Co , across from St. Louise...and Montgomery Co as well as a few other locations. Hope this helps. Julie Bissell Tupker ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ Email listowner @ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/my-email.htm