Dear Laurie, One thing I can mention about the Greve surname. I have also seen it spelled Grabe and Graebe. In the old german script the letter "v" can look like a "b" and vice versa. Here is a good example of a family from Nenndorf to Beecher, Will Co., IL. Larry do you have information about Sophia CHARLOTTE Kastning Greve born 1824 (see below)? Karen karen@karensgen.com Family Group Sheet Husband: Cord Heinrich Greve Born: in: Luthe, Wunstorf, Amt. Blumenau, Germany Baptized: in: Died: AFT 1825 in: Buried: in: Father: Johann Heinrich Greve Wife: Catharina (Trine) Maria Dorothea Knoche Married: 31 JUL 1814 in: Bad Nenndorf, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany 1 Born: 07 OCT 1790 in: Horsten #22, Schaumburg, Germany Baptized: 10 OCT 1790 in: Bad Nenndorf, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany 2 Died: AFT 1825 in: Buried: in: Father: Hans Heinrich Knoche Mother: Anna Dorothea Wehrhahn Baptism sponsor was Trine Maria Dorothea Wehrhahn daughter of Hans Wehrhahn of Waltringhausen 27. F Child 1 Catharina (Thrine) Maria Dorothea Greve Born: 21 APR 1816 in: Horsten, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany Baptized: 27 APR 1816 in: Bad Nenndorf, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany 2 Died: __ ___ 1816 in: 2 F Child 2 Engel Maria Greve Born: 24 FEB 1819 in: Horsten #22, Schaumburg, Germany Baptized: 28 FEB 1819 in: Bad Nenndorf, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany 2 Died: __ ___ 1820 in: 2 F Child 3 Catharina Maria Dorothea Greve Born: __ ___ 1822 in: Horsten, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany Baptized: 10 MAY 1822 in: Bad Nenndorf, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany 2 Died: in: Buried: in: M Child 4 Johann HEINRICH Graebe Sr. Born: 22 FEB 1825 in: Horsten, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany 3 Baptized: 27 FEB 1825 in: Bad Nenndorf, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany 2 Died: 10 APR 1883 in: Buried: 12 APR 1883 in: St. John UCC Cemetery, Beecher, IL 5 Cemetery: in: 6 Spouse: Engel Maria DOROTHEA Weidemann Married: 04 OCT 1847 in: First St. Paul Lutheran, Chicago, IL 3 Spouse: Sophia Catharina Schweer Married: 26 DEC 1850 in: First St. Paul Lutheran, Chicago, IL Lived in Washington Twp., Will Co., IL with son Wilhelm in in 1890. Tombstone reads 28 ??? 1825; 10 APR 1883. Immigration about 1846. Also spelled Grabe. 1 Bad Nenndorf, Schaumburg, Germany church MARRIAGE records. 2 Bad Nenndorf, Schaumburg, Germany church BAPTISM records. 3 First St. Paul Lutheran Church, 2335 No. Orchard St., Chicago, IL 60614 5 St. Johns UCC, Beecher Will Co. IL, The People Of, by Rev. David McDonald 1997 6 Beecher Cemetery Readings, Will Co., IL Compiled by W.L. Eilrich, Sept. 1992.  Family Group Sheet Husband: Johann Gerhard Greve Born: 23 JAN 1817 in: Hanover, Germany 1 Baptized: in: Died: 09 DEC 1888 in: Buried: in: Schaumburg Twp., Cook Co., IL Father: Mother: Some of these children are possible grandchildren of Gerhard Greve born 1817??? Wife: Sophia CHARLOTTE Kastning Married: ABT 1855 in: Born: __ JUN 1824 in: 1 Baptized: in: Died: __ ___ 1897 in: Buried: in: Father: ??? Mother: F Child 1 Margaretha Greve Born: 04 JAN 1848 in: Baptized: in: Died: AFT 1879 in: Buried: in: Spouse: Johann Dietrich Meyer Married: 08 MAY 1872 in: Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL M Child 2 Friedrich Heinrich Wilhelm Greve Born: 05 MAR 1860 in: Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL 1 Baptized: 29 APR 1860 in: St. Peter Luth. Church, Schaumburg, IL Died: in: Buried: in: M Child 3 Ernst August Greve Born: 09 OCT 1863 in: Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Baptized: 06 DEC 1863 in: St. Peter Luth. Church, Schaumburg, IL Died: AFT 1879 in: Buried: in: Spouse: Wilhelmina Wilkening Married: 18 DEC 1879 in: St. Peter Luth. Church, Schaumburg, IL F Child 4 Engel Justine Amalie Greve Born: 15 OCT 1870 in: Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL 1 Baptized: 18 OCT 1870 in: St. Peter Luth. Church, Schaumburg, IL Died: in: Buried: in: F Child 5 Sophia Wilhelmine Charlotte Alvine Greve Born: 07 MAR 1878 in: 1 Baptized: in: Died: in: Buried: in: M Child 6 Heinrich HENRY Greve Born: in: Baptized: in: Died: in: Buried: in: 1 People of Schaumburg Township, Cook Co., IL website address: http://www.sd54.k12.il.us/instruct/socsci/schaum/people/greve.htm