Dear Laurie, One thing I can mention about the Greve surname. I have also seen it spelled Grabe and Graebe. In the old german script the letter "v" can look like a "b" and vice versa. Here is a good example of a family from Nenndorf to Beecher, Will Co., IL. Larry do you have information about Sophia CHARLOTTE Kastning Greve born 1824 (see below)? Karen karen@karensgen.com Family Group Sheet Husband: Cord Heinrich Greve Born: in: Luthe, Wunstorf, Amt. Blumenau, Germany Baptized: in: Died: AFT 1825 in: Buried: in: Father: Johann Heinrich Greve Wife: Catharina (Trine) Maria Dorothea Knoche Married: 31 JUL 1814 in: Bad Nenndorf, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany 1 Born: 07 OCT 1790 in: Horsten #22, Schaumburg, Germany Baptized: 10 OCT 1790 in: Bad Nenndorf, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany 2 Died: AFT 1825 in: Buried: in: Father: Hans Heinrich Knoche Mother: Anna Dorothea Wehrhahn Baptism sponsor was Trine Maria Dorothea Wehrhahn daughter of Hans Wehrhahn of Waltringhausen 27. F Child 1 Catharina (Thrine) Maria Dorothea Greve Born: 21 APR 1816 in: Horsten, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany Baptized: 27 APR 1816 in: Bad Nenndorf, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany 2 Died: __ ___ 1816 in: 2 F Child 2 Engel Maria Greve Born: 24 FEB 1819 in: Horsten #22, Schaumburg, Germany Baptized: 28 FEB 1819 in: Bad Nenndorf, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany 2 Died: __ ___ 1820 in: 2 F Child 3 Catharina Maria Dorothea Greve Born: __ ___ 1822 in: Horsten, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany Baptized: 10 MAY 1822 in: Bad Nenndorf, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany 2 Died: in: Buried: in: M Child 4 Johann HEINRICH Graebe Sr. Born: 22 FEB 1825 in: Horsten, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany 3 Baptized: 27 FEB 1825 in: Bad Nenndorf, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany 2 Died: 10 APR 1883 in: Buried: 12 APR 1883 in: St. John UCC Cemetery, Beecher, IL 5 Cemetery: in: 6 Spouse: Engel Maria DOROTHEA Weidemann Married: 04 OCT 1847 in: First St. Paul Lutheran, Chicago, IL 3 Spouse: Sophia Catharina Schweer Married: 26 DEC 1850 in: First St. Paul Lutheran, Chicago, IL Lived in Washington Twp., Will Co., IL with son Wilhelm in in 1890. Tombstone reads 28 ??? 1825; 10 APR 1883. Immigration about 1846. Also spelled Grabe. 1 Bad Nenndorf, Schaumburg, Germany church MARRIAGE records. 2 Bad Nenndorf, Schaumburg, Germany church BAPTISM records. 3 First St. Paul Lutheran Church, 2335 No. Orchard St., Chicago, IL 60614 5 St. Johns UCC, Beecher Will Co. IL, The People Of, by Rev. David McDonald 1997 6 Beecher Cemetery Readings, Will Co., IL Compiled by W.L. Eilrich, Sept. 1992.  Family Group Sheet Husband: Johann Gerhard Greve Born: 23 JAN 1817 in: Hanover, Germany 1 Baptized: in: Died: 09 DEC 1888 in: Buried: in: Schaumburg Twp., Cook Co., IL Father: Mother: Some of these children are possible grandchildren of Gerhard Greve born 1817??? Wife: Sophia CHARLOTTE Kastning Married: ABT 1855 in: Born: __ JUN 1824 in: 1 Baptized: in: Died: __ ___ 1897 in: Buried: in: Father: ??? Mother: F Child 1 Margaretha Greve Born: 04 JAN 1848 in: Baptized: in: Died: AFT 1879 in: Buried: in: Spouse: Johann Dietrich Meyer Married: 08 MAY 1872 in: Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL M Child 2 Friedrich Heinrich Wilhelm Greve Born: 05 MAR 1860 in: Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL 1 Baptized: 29 APR 1860 in: St. Peter Luth. Church, Schaumburg, IL Died: in: Buried: in: M Child 3 Ernst August Greve Born: 09 OCT 1863 in: Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL Baptized: 06 DEC 1863 in: St. Peter Luth. Church, Schaumburg, IL Died: AFT 1879 in: Buried: in: Spouse: Wilhelmina Wilkening Married: 18 DEC 1879 in: St. Peter Luth. Church, Schaumburg, IL F Child 4 Engel Justine Amalie Greve Born: 15 OCT 1870 in: Schaumburg, Cook Co., IL 1 Baptized: 18 OCT 1870 in: St. Peter Luth. Church, Schaumburg, IL Died: in: Buried: in: F Child 5 Sophia Wilhelmine Charlotte Alvine Greve Born: 07 MAR 1878 in: 1 Baptized: in: Died: in: Buried: in: M Child 6 Heinrich HENRY Greve Born: in: Baptized: in: Died: in: Buried: in: 1 People of Schaumburg Township, Cook Co., IL website address: http://www.sd54.k12.il.us/instruct/socsci/schaum/people/greve.htm  

Dear Eric, Included in this email are 3 family group sheets on Zieseniss families. The 3 different families are not connected to each other in my records. In summary: 1) Wilhelmine Ziesenis Borchert born 1853 buried in Bremer Co., IA. 2) Children of Heinrich Christoph Zieseniss born 1825 in Auhagen, Germany and Sophia Battermann from Kohlenfeld (Kolenfeld), Germany settled at Beecher (Eagle Lake), Will Co., IL and Hanover Twp., Lake Co., IN. 3) Friedrich Wilhelm Ziesenniss born 15 AUG 1816 from Ludersfeld (parish of Lindhorst), Germany and wife Engel Boevers from Hulshagen immigrated in 1846... I do not know where they settled. Karen Rowe karen@karensgen.com Family Group Sheet Wife: Wilhelmine Ziesenis Born: 14 SEP 1853 in: Baptized: in: Died: 21 SEP 1922 in: Buried: in: Fremont Twp. Cemetery, Bremer Co., IA Father: Mother: Husband: Carl Philip FERDINAND Borchert Married: in: Born: 21 JUL 1847 in: Rehren #19, Schaumburg, Germany Baptized: 14 JUL 1847 in: St. Egidien Church, Hattendorf, Germany Died: 11 DEC 1922 in: Tripoli, Bremer Co., IA Buried: in: Fremont Twp. Cemetery, Bremer Co., IA 2 Father: Johann Heinrich Borchers Mother: Engel Maria Louise Meyer Twin. Family Group Sheet Husband: Heinrich CHRISTOPH Ziesenis Born: __ FEB 1825 in: Auhagen, Ksp. Bergkirchen, Germany Baptized: in: Died: 11 MAY 1908 in: Buried: in: Father: Mother: Schaumburger Auswanderer #2224???: Ziesenis, Heinrich, Auhagen to America 1856. Wife: Sophia Battermann Married: __ ___ 1858 in: Eagle Lake St. Johns, Beecher Will Co IL Born: 22 SEP 1841 in: Kolenfeld, Amt. Blumenau, Germany Baptized: in: Kolenfeld, Amt. Blumenau, Germany Died: 25 JAN 1913 in: Buried: in: Father: HEINRICH Wilhelm Christoph Battermann Mother: Sophia WILHELMINE Christine Riechers Confirmation Records at St. Johns Lutheran Church, Beecher, IL state DOB as 14 AUG 1844. M Child 1 Heinrich Friedrich Christoph Ziesenis Born: 09 JUL 1859 in: Hanover Twp., Lake Co., IN Baptized: __ JUL 1859 in: Zion UCC, Dyer, Lake Co., IN Died: AFT 1873 in: Buried: in: M Child 2 Friedrich Heinrich CHRISTOPH Ziesenis Born: 15 APR 1861 in: Hanover Twp., Lake Co., IN Baptized: __ APR 1861 in: Zion UCC, Dyer, Lake Co., IN Died: AFT 1875 in: Buried: in: F Child 3 Dorothea Ziesenis Born: 28 SEP 1863 in: Hanover Twp., Lake Co., IN Baptized: 22 NOV 1863 in: Zion UCC, Dyer, Lake Co., IN Died: AFT 1877 in: Buried: in: Baptized Engel Sophia Dorothea Henrietta Laura Ziesenis. F Child 4 Wilhelmine MINA Ziesenis Born: 25 MAY 1866 in: Hanover Twp., Lake Co., IN Baptized: 17 JUN 1866 in: Zion UCC, Dyer, Lake Co., IN Died: AFT 1890 in: Buried: in: Spouse: Otto Russel Married: 08 MAY 1890 in: Zion UCC, Dyer, Lake Co., IN Baptised Engel Dorothea Sophia Wilhelmine Chr. Hanna. F Child 5 Wilhelmine Sophia Karol. LOUISE Ziesenis Born: 16 FEB 1869 in: Hanover Twp., Lake Co., IN Baptized: 28 MAR 1869 in: Zion UCC, Dyer, Lake Co., IN Died: 22 OCT 1870 in: Crete, Will Co., IL Buried: in: F Child 6 Sophia Zieseniss Born: 08 SEP 1871 in: Hanover Twp., Lake Co., IN Baptized: 01 OCT 1871 in: Zion UCC, Dyer, Lake Co., IN Died: in: Buried: in: M Child 7 Heinrich Friedrich Ziesenis Born: 20 DEC 1876 in: Hanover Twp., Lake Co., IN Baptized: 26 DEC 1876 in: Zion UCC, Dyer, Lake Co., IN Died: 09 FEB 1887 in: Buried: in: F Child 8 Alvina Zieseniss Born: 29 MAR 1879 in: Hanover Twp., Lake Co., IN Baptized: 02 JUN 1879 in: Zion UCC, Dyer, Lake Co., IN Died: AFT 1901 in: Buried: in: Spouse: Heinrich Heisterberg Married: in: M Child 9 Herman Ziesenis Born: 30 OCT 1884 in: Baptized: in: Died: in: Buried: in: ? Child 10 Infant Ziezeniss Born: 11 DEC 1888 in: Died: 13 DEC 1888 in: Buried: in: Family Group Sheet Husband: Johann Philipp Zieseniss Born: 16 AUG 1791 in: Kreuzriehe #11, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany Baptized: 21 AUG 1791 in: Bad Nenndorf, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany Died: __ ___ 1856 in: Ludersfeld #6, Schaumburg, Germany Buried: in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Father: Johann Caspar Zieseniss Mother: Ilsa Maria Stege Wife: Anna Engel Maria Auhagen Married: 30 MAY 1815 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Born: 22 FEB 1790 in: Ludersfeld #28, Sch.-Lippe, Germany Baptized: 24 FEB 1790 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Died: 04 JAN 1876 in: Ludersfeld, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Buried: 07 JAN 1876 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Father: Christian Heinrich Wilhelm Auhagen Mother: Ilsa Catharina Sophia Maria Wilkening M Child 1 Friedrich Wilhelm Zieseniss Born: 15 AUG 1816 in: Ludersfeld #28, Sch.-Lippe, Germany Baptized: 20 AUG 1816 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Died: AFT 1846 in: America Buried: in: Spouse: Engel Maria Dorothea Boevers Married: 01 MAY 1846 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Schaumburger Auswanderer #720: Zieseniss, Johann Friedrich Wilhelm, Ludersfel Sohn des Malers Johann PHilipp Z. in Ludersfeld u. der Engel Marie Dorothee geb. Auhagen, geb. 20.8.1816 in Ludersfeld, heir. 1.3.1846, mit Ehefrau Engel Marie Dorothee geb. Boevers, Hulshagen Nr. 27, geb. 21.5.1821, nach Amerika, unmittelbar nach 1.3.1846 (Kb. Lindhorst Trauungen 1846 Nr. 3) M Child 2 Toennies Gottlieb Zieseniss Born: 17 AUG 1819 in: Ludersfeld #28, Sch.-Lippe, Germany Baptized: 22 AUG 1819 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Died: in: Buried: in: F Child 3 Engel Maria Sophia Ziesenis Born: 12 DEC 1821 in: Ludersfeld #28, Sch.-Lippe, Germany Baptized: 16 DEC 1821 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Died: AFT 1851 in: Buried: in: Spouse: Heinrich Christoph Reineking Married: 02 JAN 1848 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany F Child 4 Catharina Maria Sophia Dorothea Ziesenis Born: 13 JUN 1824 in: Ludersfeld #36, Sch.-Lippe, Germany Baptized: 20 JUN 1824 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Died: in: Buried: in: F Child 5 Anna Sophia Dorothea Zieseniss Born: 25 OCT 1826 in: Ludersfeld #27, Sch.-Lippe, Germany Baptized: 29 OCT 1826 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Died: 17 JUN 1867 in: Ludersfeld #6, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Buried: 21 JUN 1867 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany Spouse: Carl Wilhelm Wilkening Married: __ ___ 1852 in: Lindhorst, Schaumburg-Lippe, Germany

Dear List, I received this email recently... __________________ July 2002 Dear Karen, I am spending a week in Benson Minnesota and happend into the antique store where I found a framed marriage certficate for Friedrich Wil G Biesterfeld and Maria Engel Watermann of Crete Will Co Ill 8 Feb 1891 Are you interested in this item? In my excitement I forgot to check the price, Sorry. Duffy. __________________ I have the ancestry of this family in my research but no descendent contact to forward this email. If anyone is interested in this item please contact me. Below is a family group sheet of the immigrant parents of Friedrich Biesterfeld of Crete, IL FYI. Karen S. Rowe karen@karensgen.com Family Group Sheet Husband: Friedrich Heinrich Biesterfeld Born: 23 JUL 1840 in: Lyhren #14, Kr. Schaumburg, Germany Baptized: 26 JUL 1840 in: Apelern, Kreis Schaumburg, Germany Died: 21 MAY 1917 in: Crete, Will Co., IL Buried: in: Trinity Lutheran Cemetery, Crete, IL Father: Heinrich Christoph Biesterfeld Mother: Ilsa Maria Justine Wilh. Eleonore Rust Illinois State Marriage Index, Illinois State Genealogical Society CD Rom 1997 - ??? Johann Christoff Biesterfeld marries Engel Maria D. Bassermann 05 NOV 1865 in Will County, IL. Wife: Engel Maria Battermann Married: BEF 1865 in: Born: 25 SEP 1829 in: Kl. Hegesdorf, Schaumburg, Germany Baptized: 27 SEP 1829 in: Apelern, Kreis Schaumburg, Germany Died: 23 AUG 1903 in: Crete, Will Co., IL Buried: in: Trinity Lutheran Cemetery, Crete, IL Father: Johann Heinrich Battermann Mother: Sophia Dorothea Bekedorf Emigrated in 1865 per death record. Schaumburg Auswanderer #3300: Biesterfeld, Engel Marie, Kleinhegesdorf, Tochter des Strohdachdeckers Johann Heinrich Battermann u der Sophie Dorothea geb Beckedorf, verh., nach Amerika, vor 1872 (Kb. Apelern Tote Kleinhegesdorf 1872 S. 45).....(under 1865 category in S.A.) Known Children: M Child 1 Friedrich Wilhelm Gottlieb Biesterfeld Born: 30 JAN 1866 in: Crete, Will Co., IL Baptized: 04 MAR 1866 in: Trinity Luth. Ch., Crete, Will Co., IL Died: 12 JUL 1932 in: Hancock, Stevens Co., MN Buried: in: Spouse: Engel Maria Watermann Married: 08 FEB 1891 in: Trinity Luth. Ch., Crete, Will Co., IL M Child 2 Heinrich Friedrich Wilhelm Biesterfeld Born: 25 AUG 1868 in: Washington Twp., Will Co., IL Baptized: in: Eagle Lake St. Johns, Beecher Will Co IL Died: 18 MAR 1940 in: Crete, Will Co., IL Buried: in: Trinity Lutheran Cemetery, Crete, IL Occupation: Farmer/Road Supervisor Spouse: Sophia MARIA Carolina Rinne Married: 07 NOV 1897 in: Trinity Luth. Ch., Crete, Will Co., IL 1920 Census: Crete Twp., Will Co., IL. Census states Henry was born in Indiana. F Child 3 Engel Maria SOPHIA Biesterfeld Born: 16 AUG 1871 in: Washington Twp., Will Co., IL Baptized: in: Eagle Lake St. Johns, Beecher Will Co IL Died: 25 AUG 1926 in: Hancock, Stevens Co., MN Buried: in: Spouse: Wilhelm Sennholtz Married: 13 NOV 1892 in: Trinity Luth. Ch., Crete, Will Co., IL Sources Trinity Lutheran Church, Crete, Will Co., IL Death Records. Schaumburg Auswanderer 1820-1914, by Heinrich Rieckenberg, Rinteln, Germany. Trinity Lutheran Church, Crete, Will Co., IL Baptism Records. Trinity Lutheran Church, Crete, Will Co., IL Marriage Records. 1920 Census: Crete Twp., Will Co., IL. St. Johns Luth. Church Eagle Lake, Beecher, Will Co., IL Baptism Records. Cemetery Listing, WTTC, South Suburban Gen Soc Quarterly, Vol. 11:3 1981 Crete Trinity Lutheran Cemetery, Crete, IL Illinois State Marriage Index, Illinois State Genealogical Society CD Rom 1997 

Hi listers, Looking for the descendants of Bertie/Bertha Harrop and husband William Harrop Bertie was first married to a Cermak.. her husband and son Richard and Stephen (not sure which is which) were both killed in a accident with a train on 2/22/1938... She married Bill Harrop probably around 1940.. and it is said they had a few children.... I believe there is a William Harrop still in Braidwood.. possibly a son.. but I am unable to obtain an address... Does anyone have any connection to this family..? or know of them...Tks Michele

Hi List, Does anybody know if Trinity Black Walnut Cemetery was ever called Crete Cemetery? My great great grandmother's Catharina Maria Oldendorf's death certificate says that she was to be buried in Crete Cemetery. Her grandson says she is buried in Trinity/ Black Walnut Cemetery. I did a walk through of both cemeteries when I was in Illinois last month and couldn't find her. Her husband is buried at Trinity/ Black Walnut and has a tombstone that could be inscribed on all four sides. The stone was tipped over and all I could get was his dates. There was nothing inscribed on the sides. Does anybody know where I could find burial records or is the cemetery abandoned? Thank You, Missy in Michigan

Rick, Check out the following, and enter "Arsenal" in the "search this site" option. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ Larry

Regarding cemeteries on arsenal property: One has-by South Suburban genealogy Society-contact them. The Maple Hill cem.,just west of village of Elwood-no-but it is outside the Arsenal fence and you can get to it easily. The others-no published transcription. Kathy

HAVE ANY OF THESE CEMETERIES BEEN INDEXED? RICK HARRIGAN

Will Grundy Genealogy Society Newsletter June 2002 "Cemetery Tours at Midewin" ..Midewin will be starting tours on Saturdays. On June 15 at 2:00 p.m. they will conduct "Midewin's Historic Cemeteries". the number to contact is:(815)423-6370. The tour schedule for May-December can be found at www.fs.fed.us/mntp/ We also will try to arrange some mid week cemetery tours if there's interest-contact Millie Allott(815)476-7782 or Connie Bottema(815)476-7126. We need at least 5-7 people for a tour. Note-several cemeteries in four townships are on former arsenal property(part now under the control of US Forest Service and called Midewin). Mainly cover Jackson,Florence,Manhattan townships.

Thanks very much! I now feel I can't possibly miss it (directionally challenged though I am!). Martha Grenzeback graymatters@alltel.net At 12:14 AM 21-06-2002 -0500, you wrote: >You will exit i80 at Chicago St./Rt.53 >and go south a short distance to >Patterson Rd, turn right and the cemetery >will be in about 1/2 mi on your left, up >a slight hill. > > >==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== >To contact the listowner, send mail to WillCoIL@bigfoot.com >Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/

Thank you for asking. Love the fact that you are into history especially around the Will County area. But in Wallingford on Elevator Rd stood my 4th grandfathers farm. A log cabin he built from the black walnut trees that grew there. (This is what I was told) I knw the farm burn down about 50 yrs ago and was sold from the family in the 30's because the money had to be used to bury the eldest daughter Mary Foster Koerner. (She at St Joseph in Manhattan). Just another tidbit fro a history person. I am looking for Joseph Foster or Franz Joseph Foster or Joseph Franz Foster. He would have died about 1907ish. I found his wife at old St Rose thanks to Kathy Z. Gosh what an honor to find her grave. It is such a rush to see these people knowing their trials and tribulation to get here and therefore I am here. Her husband Joseph is my challenge. Any help is appreciated... Thank you for your help again!! Deb >From: "zavada" <zavada@uti.com> >Reply-To: ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com >To: ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ILWILL] Town of Wallingford >Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:01:39 -0500 > >Hi Debbie, > Thanks for the kudo. I've always loved history,genealogy and antiques. >Love to help when I can. > No I don't have a phone number for Wilton center cemetery. You could >try >locating the Wilton township supervisor. I don't know who that would be,but >I bet the Manhattan Public Library or maybe the Manhattan Post Office would >know. >The Manhattan Public library has a centennial booklet which contributors >added >info about founding families. Might be a resource. Manhattan also has >UNINDEXED microfilm of local newspaper which starts in early 1900's maybe >1920 or so. Wilmington public library has the earliest microfilmed >newspaper >for the area(and would cover Wallingford & Wilton). They are indexed from >mid 1860's to current. Who are you looking for?Might have something. I live >less than >12 miles from Wilton and Wallingford. I could take digital photos for you. > > The following is from the History of Will County 1878: >page 633 >Village of Wallingford > As previously stated,NELSON,KIBBIN and WILEY had purchased of the >Indians the tract known as the "reservation." Afterward that portion which >now constitutes the site of the village was sold to H.B.GOODARD,by whom,in >turn, it was conveyed to Charles W. KEITH,who laid out the town and offered >the lots for sale. > Doubtless,high anticipations were indulged in, regarding the destiny >of >Wallingfor,as KEITH advertised it extensively. Charts of the town were >lithographed and sent to every corner of the East and West. Some of them >still in existence show what a nice town may be built on paper, all with >streets and alleys,public squares and fine parks. But,alas,for human >expectations! the enterprise proved a failure, and Wallingford stands a >monument of blasted hopes. It is now simply a little trading-point,with a >score(score means about 10)of houses,a store and a few shops. KEITH,after >having disposed of a few lots,sold the site and the adjoining farm to Noah >THAYER,of Aurora,who still owns it. > >PS-I have from the 1873 Atlas of Will County- >a stone lithograph of "Res. of Noah THAYER esq. Wallingford Will Co.ILLS" >shows a very grand and probably exagerated view of is farm and lands. >Lithos >in this Atlas -were a sort of early advertising and the person who wanted >to >be included with a litho had to pay for it. Just like advertising in a >newspaper today. >This particular litho is very large 12"x7",almost a third of a page large. >Most were about 3"x4". I may also have from this same atlas a plat of >Wilton >township but not sure about that one. > I was at an auction MANY years ago on the THAYER farm. I can still >remember the barn because it was built in an east coast New England style >and not a midwestern one. It sat on the only hill or rise around for miles. >Small creek ran nearby. >Hope this helps. >Kathy > > >==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== >To contact the listowner, send mail to WillCoIL@bigfoot.com >Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

You will exit i80 at Chicago St./Rt.53 and go south a short distance to Patterson Rd, turn right and the cemetery will be in about 1/2 mi on your left, up a slight hill.

Martha, Coming from the West, take Chicago Street Exit off I-80 (This will be the first exit after you cross the Des Plaines River, in Joliet). Go south to the next stop light, Patterson Road, turn right. Follow the road -- you'll cross a set of railroad tracks and go under a RR overpass. The next street will be McKinley keep going on Patterson. The cemetery will be on your left. You'll see a church on the right side of Patterson Rd. If you pass the church, you've gone too far! I suggest that you visit during daylight hours only, as the neighborhood might feel intimidating towards sunset. Larry

Thank you for wonderfully speedy response! Good directions and good advice. We will probably have time to stop only if we're there by 4:00, so I think that should be okay. Thanks again, Martha Grenzeback graymatters@alltel.net At 12:30 AM 20-06-2002 -0400, you wrote: >Martha, > Coming from the West, take Chicago Street Exit off I-80 (This will be the >first exit after you cross the Des Plaines River, in Joliet). Go south to the >next stop light, Patterson Road, turn right. Follow the road -- you'll cross >a set of railroad tracks and go under a RR overpass. The next street will be >McKinley keep going on Patterson. The cemetery will be on your left. You'll >see a church on the right side of Patterson Rd. If you pass the church, >you've gone too far! > I suggest that you visit during daylight hours only, as the neighborhood >might feel intimidating towards sunset. >Larry > > >==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== >To contact the listowner, send mail to WillCoIL@bigfoot.com >Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ Martha Grenzeback graymatters@alltel.net

I will be driving to Chicago (from Nebraska) this Sunday and am hoping very much to be able to make a short stop in Joliet. Can anyone tell me how to get to the Zarley Cemetery from interstate 80 (coming from the west)? And is it a very large cemetery? I would like to have a look at my g-g-g-grandfather, Milton Garrett...(d. 1886). Thanks! Martha Grenzeback graymatters@alltel.net

For Arlene, The Farm was on the wallingford road -just south of the village of Manhattan. Wallingford road curves east off south cedar road then goes south.

There are several cemeteries in Jackson Twsp, adjacent to the Wallingford/ Manhatten area. I missed the family name you are looking for. Arlene

Manhatten Library does have some info on Wallingford. When you enter immediately look to your right, in the 2nd aisle there are 2 shelves of local history. Some family histories and been donated, some school projects, things you will not find elsewhere. Kevin Crawford has the records of the Wilton Center Cemetery tho is hard to contact, always working. 1-815-478-4066. My family had a very elderly friend, John Thayer? He was very old back in the '40's. I'm sure he had passed away by l950. He lived in a big house on a hill, had a chair under a tree and would walk down the hill with 2 canes and family helping him. Do you recall where the Thayer farm was? Arlene

Hi Debbie, Thanks for the kudo. I've always loved history,genealogy and antiques. Love to help when I can. No I don't have a phone number for Wilton center cemetery. You could try locating the Wilton township supervisor. I don't know who that would be,but I bet the Manhattan Public Library or maybe the Manhattan Post Office would know. The Manhattan Public library has a centennial booklet which contributors added info about founding families. Might be a resource. Manhattan also has UNINDEXED microfilm of local newspaper which starts in early 1900's maybe 1920 or so. Wilmington public library has the earliest microfilmed newspaper for the area(and would cover Wallingford & Wilton). They are indexed from mid 1860's to current. Who are you looking for?Might have something. I live less than 12 miles from Wilton and Wallingford. I could take digital photos for you. The following is from the History of Will County 1878: page 633 Village of Wallingford As previously stated,NELSON,KIBBIN and WILEY had purchased of the Indians the tract known as the "reservation." Afterward that portion which now constitutes the site of the village was sold to H.B.GOODARD,by whom,in turn, it was conveyed to Charles W. KEITH,who laid out the town and offered the lots for sale. Doubtless,high anticipations were indulged in, regarding the destiny of Wallingfor,as KEITH advertised it extensively. Charts of the town were lithographed and sent to every corner of the East and West. Some of them still in existence show what a nice town may be built on paper, all with streets and alleys,public squares and fine parks. But,alas,for human expectations! the enterprise proved a failure, and Wallingford stands a monument of blasted hopes. It is now simply a little trading-point,with a score(score means about 10)of houses,a store and a few shops. KEITH,after having disposed of a few lots,sold the site and the adjoining farm to Noah THAYER,of Aurora,who still owns it. PS-I have from the 1873 Atlas of Will County- a stone lithograph of "Res. of Noah THAYER esq. Wallingford Will Co.ILLS" shows a very grand and probably exagerated view of is farm and lands. Lithos in this Atlas -were a sort of early advertising and the person who wanted to be included with a litho had to pay for it. Just like advertising in a newspaper today. This particular litho is very large 12"x7",almost a third of a page large. Most were about 3"x4". I may also have from this same atlas a plat of Wilton township but not sure about that one. I was at an auction MANY years ago on the THAYER farm. I can still remember the barn because it was built in an east coast New England style and not a midwestern one. It sat on the only hill or rise around for miles. Small creek ran nearby. Hope this helps. Kathy

Good Morning Kathy Has anyone ever told you what a gem you are? You are totally awesome! Thank you for the tidbit on Wallingford. Do you, by chance have a phone number for Wilton Center cemetery??? Also, would records, photos history of Wallingford be at the Wilmington Library or Joliet library? Thank you again for all of your help. Debbi >From: "zavada" <zavada@uti.com> >Reply-To: ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com >To: ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ILWILL] Town of Wallingford >Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:28:15 -0500 > >Hi Deb, >Closest cemetery would be Wilton Center less than 2 miles from Wallingford. >Only thing in Wallingford NOW is a grain elevator. Wallingford is in Wilton >Township. Next closest cemeteries would be Peotone going east and Manhattan >going north. >Kathy > > >==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== >To contact the listowner, send mail to WillCoIL@bigfoot.com >Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.