For Oneida, death certificates are available from 1877 to 1915 in will county not 1876. BUT death certificates were not required by the state of illinois until 1916 and even then people were reluctant to start making them out until almost 1920. Send me the names you are looking for and I will check for you. zavada@uti.com Kathy

Hello Oneida: The State of Illinois did not mandate the filing of death certificates until 1916. Any records before that are sporadic, so you may or may not find one. There was always one filed if the case involved the coroner (or at least there should have been). Other than that, there were no hard and fast rules. Sheila S-K Joe & Nita Bynum wrote: > My genealogy helper book has that Will Co. has death records dating back to 1876. Has anyone had any luck at obtaining any records from this era? > Oneida > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Upgrade Outlook® - Add COLOR to your Emails > Outlook® is a registered trademark of Microsoft Corporation > > ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== > To contact the listowner, send mail to WillCoIL@bigfoot.com > Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/

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Thanks to all for your help and especially to Sheila. I think she solved my mystery in more ways than one. I did not know my g-grandfather John Henry SEAMAN had lived in St. Clair, Michigan and never would have thought to look there. All their children were born in Grundy Co, Illinois and then Clare Co, Michigan and him and his wife were buried with some of the children in Midland Co, Michigan. They must have moved sometime between 1910 and 1920 because they were in the 1920 census for Midland Co, Michigan. I certainly will check that out! Secondly, this also proves that this is indeed the right Sophia and Henry LOHMANN and family because her daughter Dorothea Seeman did indeed marry Johannes KNACK and they lived in Minnesota. Henry was suppose to have died in 1906 and I don't see Sophia or Henry Lohmann in the Midland Co Cemetery, so my best bet for them both is still in Will Co, Green Garden Twp, Illinois. Pretoria Maxwell Michigan Sheila wrote: "From my personal notes: Sophia Lohmann died at the home of her son, John H. Seaman at St. Clair, Michigan on 30 October 1911. Services were held October 23 (no place given). She lived prior to her death, with her daughter, Mrs. Knaak at Butterfield, MN and had just been with her son in St. Clair 40 days when she died. (source: Joliet Weekly News - Frankfort column - 2 November 1911). I'm sorry I have no info on Henry. Hope this is of some help. Sheila S-K

Hello Tory: From my personal notes: Sophia Lohmann died at the home of her son, John H. Seaman at St. Clair, Michigan on 30 October 1911. Services were held October 23 (no place given). She lived prior to her death, with her daughter, Mrs. Knaak at Butterfield, MN and had just been with her son in St. Clair 40 days when she died. (source: Joliet Weekly News - Frankfor column - 2 November 1911). I'm sorry I have no info on Henry. Hope this is of some help. Sheila S-K TORY6208@aol.com wrote: > Can anyone tell me the names of the cemeteries in Green Garden Township? In > particular, I am looking for Henry and Sophia LOHMANN. > > I found them in the 1870 and 1880 for Will Co, Green Garden Twp, but they may > have died or moved before the 1900 census. Sophia's son from first marriage, > John SEEMANN (my g-grandfather) did move to Grundy Co when he married Johanna > KRUG in 1892. John Seemann was born February 03, 1858 in Warnow, > Mecklenburg, Schwerin, Germany. The family came to the US around 1868. The > family eventually changed the spelling to Seaman. > > The 1870 census lists the family this way: > > Lohmann, Henry 36 Prussia > Lohmann, Sophia 38 Mecklenburg > Henry 10 Prussia > August 3 Illinois > Seehmann, John 12 Mecklenburg > Dora 6 Mecklenburg > > Thanks for any help anyone can give me. > > Pretoria Maxwell > Michigan > > ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== > To contact the listowner, send mail to WillCoIL@bigfoot.com > Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/

Floratina (Florentina) Seemann is not related to the Lohmanns. She is from the Seemann family who lived in Joliet. She came from Prussia. I have not found a connection between the two families. Sheila S-K zavada wrote: > For Pretoria, > I found in: > 1.-will county death index > LOHMANN,Henry age 71yrs9mo died 4 Dec 1909 Frankfort(right above Green > Garden,buried Frankfort cem.,Frankfort twp > SEEMANN, Floratinna age 59yr6mo17days died Joliet 4 aug 1900 buried Zarley > cem.Joliet > 2.-another reference Peotone friends and family(peotone near Green Garden > also) > dates only > LOHMAN,Henry b.8 Jun 1821 died 19 Dec 1866 no locations given. > > 3.-on ancestry-census index-using a soundex > 1850 will county > LAYMAN,Charles L.,Joliet page 24 > LAMAN,Frederic,Wilmington page 125 > 1860 census will county > LEHMON,Charles,Frankfort,page 522 > LEHMANN,Charles,Monee,page 441 > LEMAN,Henry,Monee, page 443 > LOMAN,Frederick,Wilmington,page 320 > SEHMANN,Ferdinand,Frankfort,page 523 > SEAMAN,John,Washington,page463 > SEAMANN,Louisa,Washington,page 464 > Closest townships to Green Garden are Frankfort,Washington and Monee then > Wilmington directly west with Peotone in between. > Green Garden twp was sold as"a bill of goods" to incoming folks. The land > was not and is not good farm land. It happened to be one of the last > townships to fill up. However most people moved to other townships and > counties because they couldn't support their families. > > Green Garden cemeteries > Green Garden Methodist(aka Andres)sec. 19 > Rosehill-sec.4 > St. Peter's Evangelical-sec.12 > Union sec.14 > Good Hunting, > Kathy > > ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== > To contact the listowner, send mail to WillCoIL@bigfoot.com > Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/

Just as a side bit of information........when you start looking at these names in the German script......you will find that "S'' and ''L".......look remarkably similar, and it would be easy to confuse the 2. I could see where "Lehmann" could be read as "Sehmann" and vice-versa.

For Pretoria, I found in: 1.-will county death index LOHMANN,Henry age 71yrs9mo died 4 Dec 1909 Frankfort(right above Green Garden,buried Frankfort cem.,Frankfort twp SEEMANN, Floratinna age 59yr6mo17days died Joliet 4 aug 1900 buried Zarley cem.Joliet 2.-another reference Peotone friends and family(peotone near Green Garden also) dates only LOHMAN,Henry b.8 Jun 1821 died 19 Dec 1866 no locations given. 3.-on ancestry-census index-using a soundex 1850 will county LAYMAN,Charles L.,Joliet page 24 LAMAN,Frederic,Wilmington page 125 1860 census will county LEHMON,Charles,Frankfort,page 522 LEHMANN,Charles,Monee,page 441 LEMAN,Henry,Monee, page 443 LOMAN,Frederick,Wilmington,page 320 SEHMANN,Ferdinand,Frankfort,page 523 SEAMAN,John,Washington,page463 SEAMANN,Louisa,Washington,page 464 Closest townships to Green Garden are Frankfort,Washington and Monee then Wilmington directly west with Peotone in between. Green Garden twp was sold as"a bill of goods" to incoming folks. The land was not and is not good farm land. It happened to be one of the last townships to fill up. However most people moved to other townships and counties because they couldn't support their families. Green Garden cemeteries Green Garden Methodist(aka Andres)sec. 19 Rosehill-sec.4 St. Peter's Evangelical-sec.12 Union sec.14 Good Hunting, Kathy

For Susan Gray Detweiler, Took awhile but I found a LOT of information on Monteiths email me directly at zavada@uti.com too much to put up on this list. They weren't in Joliet-but in WILMINGTON and FLORENCE twps. here's a sample 24 entries in Oakwood cemetery transcription have 1850 and 1860 census entries found two other researchers working on this line there is more. Regards Kathy

Hi Julie: Thank you so much for the Census information! I think the Colorado and Ft. Madison, IA Gatliffs are another branch of this line, although it is interesting that you found a " Christian " . This name has never appeared in the line as a male, and we did find Christianas name with that spelling on one other occasion.I will have to check that out! I am aware of a Charles Gatliff in Racine, and believe him to be the Charles from Will Co.We know that one of Christiana's sons, Thomas Cornelius Gatliff was in Racine for a short while but, so far, have not found Christiana there. Again, thans so much for the information. It will definately be helpful!-----------Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: <JulieBskt@aol.com> To: <ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:23 AM Subject: [ILWILL] GRATLIFF >

I did a census index search for your family in 1840 and 50, but none showed up in Illinois. There was in 1840, a Charles Gatliff in Racine Co, WI page 79. Could they, or Charles, have moved on from Will Co into Wisconsin? Then...in 1850, I fond a 20 year old Charles Gatliff in El Dorado Co, Greenwood Valley page 56, CA ....born in KY. He was a miner. I wondered if he was possibly a son? Also in 1850 Lee Co, Fort Madison Iowa page 288 is a Christian Gatliff. I thought you might want to check that out, just in case it was Christine (or listed as female) instead of a male Christian. I looked at the Illinois marriage index and didn't see a remarriage for Christine, but it could be there, under some wierd spelling. sorry I couldn't help further. Julie

Can anyone tell me the names of the cemeteries in Green Garden Township? In particular, I am looking for Henry and Sophia LOHMANN. I found them in the 1870 and 1880 for Will Co, Green Garden Twp, but they may have died or moved before the 1900 census. Sophia's son from first marriage, John SEEMANN (my g-grandfather) did move to Grundy Co when he married Johanna KRUG in 1892. John Seemann was born February 03, 1858 in Warnow, Mecklenburg, Schwerin, Germany. The family came to the US around 1868. The family eventually changed the spelling to Seaman. The 1870 census lists the family this way: Lohmann, Henry 36 Prussia Lohmann, Sophia 38 Mecklenburg Henry 10 Prussia August 3 Illinois Seehmann, John 12 Mecklenburg Dora 6 Mecklenburg Thanks for any help anyone can give me. Pretoria Maxwell Michigan

Is there a Joliet city directory for the 1840s? If anyone has access, I would greatly appreciate a look-up for all Monteiths. Thank you, list! Susan Gray Detweiler Charleston, SC

For Jack, The book containing records for St Dennis and Calvary Cemeteries of Lockport is going to the printer next week. It will be available from The Will/Grundy Counties, IL Genealogical Society. I know the person who prepared the book, so I called her and she checked her copy for me. She found the following in south half of St. Dennis Cemetery. There's a road dividing it down the middle. In the 18th row from Jefferson St.: John J. Morrison 1876 - 1959 Margaret A. Morrison 1876 - 1967 (It could be that the gravestones for Jane and Michael are no longer legible.) In Calvary Cemetery: John A. Morrison 1910-1990 V. Lucille 1919-2001 Kayleen (child) 1942-1957 In the Goodale Funeral Home records, I found the following: Wallace J. Morrison, age 35 years 3 months 3 days, of 1127 State Street, Lockport, married, laborer at oil company. Born Lockport 22 December 1902; died at home 25 March 1938. Wife: Ruth Morrison. Father John Morrison, born Lockport; mother, Margaret Wallace, born Lockport. Fuhneral at Goodale Funeral Home by Rev. E.L. Snodgrass; burial in Lockport Cemetery 27 March 1938. I copied the two pages from the booklet, "Lockport Has A Birthday", that mention the Morrisons. Do you have that information? It says Michael was Runyantown's first tailor. It also lists all the descendants still living here in 1930. Sorry I couldn't find the burial records you are looking for. I'll keep watching for any information on Michael and Jane. Let me know if you want anything else. Jacqueline Munch jlmunch@earthlink.net

Hi Jacqueline: I have had no other offers, so I would appreciate it very much if you would do this. I have about given up hope on Christine. She, and a Charles Gatliff as well as her Children and the Hart Families came early to Will Co. (1833-1834) She bought land in Blackstone's Grove in 1835. We feel very sure that she is buried in Will Co. unless she remarried and went by a different name.Thanks a bunch!-------Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: Jacqueline Munch <jlmunch@earthlink.net> To: <ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 3:46 PM Subject: [ILWILL] Hadley Cemetery/Ron Jost > Ron, > Several days ago you asked for a lookup in Hadley Cemetery records for > Christiana Gatliff or any Gatliff. We have that record in our public > library, and I can do it for you if noone else has yet. Let me know. > > Jacqueline Munch > jlmunch@earthlink.net > > > ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== > To contact the listowner, send mail to WillCoIL@bigfoot.com > Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ >

Sally, Our Lockport Area Genealogical & Historical Society has been in existence a little over one year. We cover mainly Lockport Township. If you would like to receive a brochure or need more information, contact me at my e-mail address. Jacqueline Munch jlmunch@earthlink.net

In a message dated 8/31/2002 4:01:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, ILWILL-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > LAGHS > Jacqueline, Is there any other info you can provide about this organization? I read your recent post about it's organization. Thank you, Sally Knudsen Michigan, USA My Family Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~samkfamily/index.html

Ron, Several days ago you asked for a lookup in Hadley Cemetery records for Christiana Gatliff or any Gatliff. We have that record in our public library, and I can do it for you if noone else has yet. Let me know. Jacqueline Munch jlmunch@earthlink.net

Hello, I'm new to the list. Does anyone on the list have knowledge about how much info is kept at the Will County Offices for Declaration of Intentions filed about 1896? Not long ago I came into possession of a Petition for Naturalization filed in PA that had a Will Co. D.I. in it. I was not aware of my gr-grandfathers connection to IL. Louise Stanzione

If anyone is able to visit this cemetery to take photos of three gravestones would you please contact me privately to discuss arrangements, please. The cemetery is located in Jackson Township. Thank you, Bernadette