Mike, Marriages: p. 137: 1876 Oct 27: Swarts, Charles E.-Rogers m. 10/18 Allen, Margaret p. 143: 1878 Apr 5 -- March Licenses: Swart, John & Brown, Adeline Births: p. 152: 1877 Sep 21 : Swartz, Charles - girl, Essex, 9/18 Cheers, Art ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bohunkjoe@aol.com> To: <ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 10:34 PM Subject: [ILWILL] Index Lookup please. > > Might I please request a lookup in your index? > For Will and Grundy Co, the SVARC or SWARTZ surname please. > > Thx > Mike in AZ > SWARTZ~SVARC / CERNY / HAJEK / HOSEK / KREISSINGER > > > ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== > Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ > Email listowner @ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/my-email.htm > >

In 1998, the book could be purchased for $20 from the author. Becki Leucht, 403 N. Nappanee Point, Peoria, IL 61604-4219. It is spiral bound and contains a 1-page prologue, a 1-page table of abbreviations, 161 numbered pages (deaths from 1 to 110; marriages 111-148; births 149-161) and an unnumbered 16-page index. I do not know if the book is still in print or if a later version has been done. I do not know if the compiler has e-mail. According to the compiler's prologue, "I decided to write down all births, deaths & marriages that appeared in the various Grundy co. newspapers ... When I finished, my findings were quite small. For all the Grundy county marriages, I went to the courthouse and added the dates from the marriage records. A word of caution, not nearly all Grundy county marriages are included, just those that were in the newspapers." She mentions extracting Grundy residents from Wilmington papers, Braidwood papers, newspaper extracts of Will co. marriages of non-residents, deaths of those over 10 and non-residents from Yorkville & Ottawa newspapers. She notes that if a cite is not "documented," it is more than likely from a Morris or Wilmington paper. No source is specifically cited (in any remotely acceptable form that I could find) for any of the extracts. The nearest you will find is the town where a newspaper was published, not the masthead title and certainly not which issue date, whole number or page number. There is no indication of which newspapers were searched or what issues or years were reviewed. The compiler mentions going back to try to "document" her earliest extracts, but that she was unable to find them again. <sigh> The bottom line on this one is, even if you receive the information in the book, you won't have any idea of what newspapers were searched, how thorough the review was, what is available that was not included, etc. For the marriages, you will not know if the information is from newspapers or the courthouse. All that being said, I'll try to answer specific questions out of my copy. Art ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rbbtfarm" <rbbtfarm@charter.net> To: <ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 10:57 PM Subject: [ILWILL] Veloyce S. - Will Co. D, B, M. & index > By any chance, is this book still in print? I could really use it. I would love the information to hunt it down. I am unclear, though, does this tell you where the info is located? >

The only thing I can add is that Deaths start on page 1, Marriages on page 111, and Births (there aren't very many) on page 149. On Saturday, January 25, 2003, at 11:21 PM, Veloyce Schmidt wrote: > Title of book is "Grundy, Will La Salle, Kendall counties, 1840-1879; > deaths, marriages, births as extracted from area newspapers" > compiled by Becki Leucht. > > I live in CA and only have the index which contains surnames and page > numbers, no details on which county, whether death marriage or birth, > or first names. > > I received the index through an interlibrary loan, (Gail Borden > Library in Elgin) the book is probably a reference book at most > libraries so no interlibrary loans but they probably will be willing > to send you copies of the pages you request. > > I use this url for north suburban Illinois libraries. > > > http://nsls-iol2.auto-graphics.com/wp2000/ > signin.asp?cid=nsls&lid=NSLS&mode=P > > > > > ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== > Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ > Email listowner @ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/my-email.htm >

I just stumbled onto a Charles Swartz,27, and wife Margaret, 17, with daughter Stella, 1, on the 1880 census for Milks Grove Twp, Iroquois Co, IL. Linda

I hope you didn't fall too hard. -----Original Message----- From: Jazmyne@aol.com [mailto:Jazmyne@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 8:20 AM To: ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ILWILL] Swarz I just stumbled onto a Charles Swartz,27, and wife Margaret, 17, with daughter Stella, 1, on the 1880 census for Milks Grove Twp, Iroquois Co, IL. Linda ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ Email listowner @ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/my-email.htm

Hi Ve ! Might I please request a lookup in your index? For Will and Grundy Co, the SVARC or SWARTZ surname please. Thx Mike in AZ SWARTZ~SVARC / CERNY / HAJEK / HOSEK / KREISSINGER

Title of book is "Grundy, Will La Salle, Kendall counties, 1840-1879; deaths, marriages, births as extracted from area newspapers" compiled by Becki Leucht. I live in CA and only have the index which contains surnames and page numbers, no details on which county, whether death marriage or birth, or first names. I received the index through an interlibrary loan, (Gail Borden Library in Elgin) the book is probably a reference book at most libraries so no interlibrary loans but they probably will be willing to send you copies of the pages you request. I use this url for north suburban Illinois libraries. http://nsls-iol2.auto-graphics.com/wp2000/signin.asp?cid=nsls&lid=NSLS&mode=P

Tricia, See my post to the list re general information on the index and availability of the book and copies. Barz, Bartz - None Becker-2,70,130,146 Selinger - None Wenberg- None Check this site for libraries in Chicago IL area that hold the book http://nsls-iol2.auto-graphics.com/wp2000/signin.asp?cid=nsls&lid=NSLS&mode= P Good luck, Ve > Hi Ve, > > By any chance, is this book still in print? I could really use it. I would love the information to hunt it down. I am unclear, though, does this tell you where the info is located? > > Would you be kind enough to check some names for me. I am desperate !!!!! I am at a loss on my maternal line, German and Swede. I will be glad to supply all the additional info I have. I visited Joliet and found gravesites of some of these families with my Aunt. She also provided as much as she could with documents and memories. Have leads in the Joliet Directories of the 1880s and 1890s. I just can't make connections or find the immigrants. > > The German lines are Barz/Bartz, Becker, and Selinger. > The Swede line is Wenberg and some form of Soderlund or Suderland. All should be in Joliet about 1880. I know the Barz were members of St. Peters Lutheran in Joliet and have some dates from them. At least some of the Wenbergs were members of a Methodist Church. > > I have the "1878 History of Will County" that is index and I do look-ups in it. It has many bios, real estate list, plus many neames of the clergy, politicians, and county officials and much more. Both of my parents and their lineage is from Will county. On my father's side, it goes back to Mokena in the 1830s. Thanks for any leads. > > Best Regards, Tricia M. > > > ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== > Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ > Email listowner @ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/my-email.htm >

Mike, Swart(s) -137,143 Swartz -152 Ve ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bohunkjoe@aol.com> To: <ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 7:34 PM Subject: [ILWILL] Index Lookup please. > Hi Ve ! > > Might I please request a lookup in your index? > For Will and Grundy Co, the SVARC or SWARTZ surname please. > > Thx > Mike in AZ > SWARTZ~SVARC / CERNY / HAJEK / HOSEK / KREISSINGER > > > ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== > Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ > Email listowner @ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/my-email.htm > >

Hi Ve, By any chance, is this book still in print? I could really use it. I would love the information to hunt it down. I am unclear, though, does this tell you where the info is located? Would you be kind enough to check some names for me. I am desperate !!!!! I am at a loss on my maternal line, German and Swede. I will be glad to supply all the additional info I have. I visited Joliet and found gravesites of some of these families with my Aunt. She also provided as much as she could with documents and memories. Have leads in the Joliet Directories of the 1880s and 1890s. I just can't make connections or find the immigrants. The German lines are Barz/Bartz, Becker, and Selinger. The Swede line is Wenberg and some form of Soderlund or Suderland. All should be in Joliet about 1880. I know the Barz were members of St. Peters Lutheran in Joliet and have some dates from them. At least some of the Wenbergs were members of a Methodist Church. I have the "1878 History of Will County" that is index and I do look-ups in it. It has many bios, real estate list, plus many neames of the clergy, politicians, and county officials and much more. Both of my parents and their lineage is from Will county. On my father's side, it goes back to Mokena in the 1830s. Thanks for any leads. Best Regards, Tricia M.

Hi Gordon, I had to order the LDS film today ... I'm in Arizona, and the Phoenix Library didn't have the book :( I'm happy that you got to see it, did it have what you were looking for? Lori ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon" <go3141@ameritech.net> To: <ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [ILWILL] Index for 1840-1879 Extraction? > Linda, I just happened to see your email before going to the Gail > Borden Library in Elgin (IL), so I looked it up for you. There were no > HELLMAN, but two HELMAN, both in the Marriages section: > > p. 134 1875 Jan 6 Moll, Herman m. 12/29 Helman, Marian > p. 148 1879 Dec 26 Johnson, Scott m. 12/25 Helman, Emma > > By the way, I think I recall this book also being in the Lockport > Public Library. > > Gordon > > > On Saturday, January 25, 2003, at 01:57 PM, Linda Manaugh ((home)) > wrote: > > > I would be interested in learning if the name Hellman(n) is in the > > index. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Linda > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Veloyce Schmidt > > To: ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [ILWILL] Index for 1840-1879 Extraction? > > > > > > Yes, I have the index only, what surname(s) would you like me to > > look up. Ve > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lori Stevens" <ladyminx@ourmixedroots.com> > > To: <ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 5:46 PM > > Subject: [ILWILL] Index for 1840-1879 Extraction? > > > > > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> Before I go to the LDS to order this film, does anyone have the > >> surname > > index to the following book written by Becky Leucht: > >> > >> Grundy, Will, La Salle, Kendall counties: 1840-1879 deaths, marriages, > > births as extracted from area newspapers. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Lori > > > ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== > Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ > Email listowner @ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/my-email.htm > > > >

Linda, I just happened to see your email before going to the Gail Borden Library in Elgin (IL), so I looked it up for you. There were no HELLMAN, but two HELMAN, both in the Marriages section: p. 134 1875 Jan 6 Moll, Herman m. 12/29 Helman, Marian p. 148 1879 Dec 26 Johnson, Scott m. 12/25 Helman, Emma By the way, I think I recall this book also being in the Lockport Public Library. Gordon On Saturday, January 25, 2003, at 01:57 PM, Linda Manaugh ((home)) wrote: > I would be interested in learning if the name Hellman(n) is in the > index. > > Thanks! > > Linda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Veloyce Schmidt > To: ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:16 PM > Subject: Re: [ILWILL] Index for 1840-1879 Extraction? > > > Yes, I have the index only, what surname(s) would you like me to > look up. Ve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lori Stevens" <ladyminx@ourmixedroots.com> > To: <ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 5:46 PM > Subject: [ILWILL] Index for 1840-1879 Extraction? > > >> Hi everyone, >> >> Before I go to the LDS to order this film, does anyone have the >> surname > index to the following book written by Becky Leucht: >> >> Grundy, Will, La Salle, Kendall counties: 1840-1879 deaths, marriages, > births as extracted from area newspapers. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Lori

I would be interested in learning if the name Hellman(n) is in the index. Thanks! Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: Veloyce Schmidt To: ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [ILWILL] Index for 1840-1879 Extraction? Yes, I have the index only, what surname(s) would you like me to look up. Ve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Stevens" <ladyminx@ourmixedroots.com> To: <ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 5:46 PM Subject: [ILWILL] Index for 1840-1879 Extraction? > Hi everyone, > > Before I go to the LDS to order this film, does anyone have the surname index to the following book written by Becky Leucht: > > Grundy, Will, La Salle, Kendall counties: 1840-1879 deaths, marriages, births as extracted from area newspapers. > > Thanks! > > Lori > > > ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== > Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ > Email listowner @ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/my-email.htm > ______________________________

Thank you for looking up my names. I'll find the book and see what I can learn. Gordon On Saturday, January 25, 2003, at 11:32 AM, Veloyce Schmidt wrote: > Gordon, the index only has surnames and page numbers, no details as to > first names or type or place. I received copies of the index from the > Gail > Borden Library. Perhaps you can get copies of the pages from a > library. > > Ball- 69, 135 > > Sherman-24,62,88,125 > > Good luck, Ve

Gordon, the index only has surnames and page numbers, no details as to first names or type or place. I received copies of the index from the Gail Borden Library. Perhaps you can get copies of the pages from a library. Ball- 69, 135 Sherman-24,62,88,125 Good luck, Ve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon" <go3141@ameritech.net> To: <ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [ILWILL] Index for 1840-1879 Extraction? > Could you please look up BALL and SHERMAN for me? I'm looking for a > SHERMAN death between 1840-1853, and any BALL births between 1853 and > 1870. > Thank you, > Gordon > > > On Friday, January 24, 2003, at 10:16 PM, Veloyce Schmidt wrote: > > > Yes, I have the index only, what surname(s) would you like me to look > > up. Ve > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lori Stevens" <ladyminx@ourmixedroots.com> > > To: <ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 5:46 PM > > Subject: [ILWILL] Index for 1840-1879 Extraction? > > > > > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> Before I go to the LDS to order this film, does anyone have the > >> surname > > index to the following book written by Becky Leucht: > >> > >> Grundy, Will, La Salle, Kendall counties: 1840-1879 deaths, marriages, > > births as extracted from area newspapers. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Lori > > > ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== > Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ > Email listowner @ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/my-email.htm > >

Could you please look up BALL and SHERMAN for me? I'm looking for a SHERMAN death between 1840-1853, and any BALL births between 1853 and 1870. Thank you, Gordon On Friday, January 24, 2003, at 10:16 PM, Veloyce Schmidt wrote: > Yes, I have the index only, what surname(s) would you like me to look > up. Ve > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lori Stevens" <ladyminx@ourmixedroots.com> > To: <ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 5:46 PM > Subject: [ILWILL] Index for 1840-1879 Extraction? > > >> Hi everyone, >> >> Before I go to the LDS to order this film, does anyone have the >> surname > index to the following book written by Becky Leucht: >> >> Grundy, Will, La Salle, Kendall counties: 1840-1879 deaths, marriages, > births as extracted from area newspapers. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Lori

Yes, I have the index only, what surname(s) would you like me to look up. Ve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Stevens" <ladyminx@ourmixedroots.com> To: <ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 5:46 PM Subject: [ILWILL] Index for 1840-1879 Extraction? > Hi everyone, > > Before I go to the LDS to order this film, does anyone have the surname index to the following book written by Becky Leucht: > > Grundy, Will, La Salle, Kendall counties: 1840-1879 deaths, marriages, births as extracted from area newspapers. > > Thanks! > > Lori > > > ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== > Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ > Email listowner @ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/my-email.htm >

Hi, Is anyone researching the surname Fish, in particular the Henry Fish family of Joliet? I find him there in 1880 with wife Mary and several children. Does anyone have any knowledge of this family? Chris

Thanks, Sheila and Lori. Too bad Will Co. is missing, i think it would have helped me solve a mystery. On Friday, January 24, 2003, at 07:19 PM, Lori Stevens wrote: > As an addendum Shiela, as I was interested in this also: > > From familysearch.org: > > The state archives is missing 1855 census schedules for several > counties > including: Carroll, Champaign, Franklin, Gallatin, Henry, Jefferson, Jo > Davies, Lake, Stark, Will and Woodford. > > Darn! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sheila Kapella" <seemannkapella@worldnet.att.net> > To: <ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 5:17 PM > Subject: Re: [ILWILL] 1855 census > > >> Hello Gordon: The 1855 census for Illinois is available on microfilm >> at >> your local LDS Family History Center (to be requested from Salt Lake >> City). There are a number of counties missing. Hope this helps. >> Sheila >> S-K >> >> Gordon wrote: >> >>> Does anyone know whether there was an 1855 IL census for Will Co., >>> and >>> if so, is it available within Will Co. somewhere, or just at >>> Springfield? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Gordon

Hi everyone, Before I go to the LDS to order this film, does anyone have the surname index to the following book written by Becky Leucht: Grundy, Will, La Salle, Kendall counties: 1840-1879 deaths, marriages, births as extracted from area newspapers. Thanks! Lori