This is for Candi in CA Here are the Sullivans and Toomeys I found on Ancestry. If you know the exact addresses I could try the 1900 census but there are about 4 for Joliet and quite a few pages for each for a random search. The 1920 & 1930 census' had some also. If you want the listings for the Sullivans because there are so many, let me know & I will sent them direct. Any other info - I will check any of these I have for you. Anne Nelson, IL SULLIVAN, JOHN   State: IL Year: 1850   County: Will County Record Type: Federal Population Schedule   Township: Joliet Page: 191   Database: IL 1850 Federal Census Index ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SULLIVAN, JOHN   State: IL Year: 1860   County: Will County Record Type: Federal Population Schedule   Township: Joliet Page: 619   Database: IL 1860 Federal Census Index TOOMEY, MICHAEL   State: IL Year: 1870   County: Cook County Record Type: Federal Population Schedule   Township: 19 W. Chicago Page: 320   Database: IL 1870 Federal Census Index ------------------------------------------------------------------------ TOOMEY, MICHAEL*   State: IL Year: 1870   County: Cook County Record Type: Federal Population Schedule   Township: 7 W Chicago Page: 100   Database: IL 1870 Federal Census Index ------------------------------------------------------------------------ TOOMEY, MICHAEL   State: IL Year: 1880   County: Cook County Record Type: Federal Population Schedule   Township: Chicago E. D. 83 Page: 546   Database: IL 1880 Federal Census Index ------------------------------------------------------------------------ TOOMEY, MICHAEL   State: IL Year: 1880   County: Cook County Record Type: Federal Population Schedule   Township: Chicago E.D. 69 Page: 148   Database: IL 1880 Federal Census Index ------------------------------------------------------------------------ TOOMEY, MICHAEL   State: IL Year: 1870   County: Cook County Record Type: Federal Population Schedule   Township: M W Chicago Page: 152   Database: IL 1870 Federal Census Index ------------------------------------------------------------------------ TOMEY, MICHAEL   State: IL Year: 1860   County: Peoria County Record Type: Federal Population Schedule   Township: 2w.Peoria City Page: 129   Database: IL 1860 Federal Census Index There are 167 Sullivans in Chicago in 1920 Sullivan, John D   View Image Online   Age: 39 Year: 1930   Birthplace:   Roll: T626_568   Race:   Page: 18A   State: Illinois ED: 18   County: Will Image: 0086   Township: Joliet   Relationship: Son ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sullivan, John   View Image Online   Age: 26 Year: 1930   Birthplace:   Roll: T626_568   Race:   Page: 7B   State: Illinois ED: 32   County: Will Image: 0455   Township: Joliet   Relationship: Son ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sullivan, John A   View Image Online   Age: 53 Year: 1930   Birthplace: Indiana Roll: T626_568   Race: White Page: 7B   State: Illinois ED: 34   County: Will Image: 0537   Township: Joliet   Relationship: Head ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sullivan, John L   View Image Online   Age: 52 Year: 1930   Birthplace: Illinois Roll: T626_568   Race: White Page: 8B   State: Illinois ED: 38   County: Will Image: 0695   Township: Joliet   Relationship: Head ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sullivan, John E   View Image Online   Age: 36 Year: 1930   Birthplace: Illinois Roll: T626_568   Race: White Page: 19A   State: Illinois ED: 40   County: Will Image: 0768   Township: Joliet   Relationship: Head ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sullivan, John J   View Image Online   Age: 7 Year: 1930   Birthplace:   Roll: T626_568   Race:   Page: 19A   State: Illinois ED: 40   County: Will Image: 0768   Township: Joliet   Relationship: Son ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sullivan, John J   View Image Online   Age: 37 Year: 1930   Birthplace: Illinois Roll: T626_568   Race: White Page: 9B   State: Illinois ED: 44   County: Will Image: 0905   Township: Joliet   Relationship: Head ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Toomey, Michael   View Image Online   Age: 65 Year: 1930   Birthplace: Ireland Roll: T626_568   Race: White Page: 10A   State: Illinois ED: 17   County: Will Image: 0020   Township: Joliet   Relationship: Head ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Toomey, Michael   View Image Online   Age: 34 Year: 1930   Birthplace: Ireland Roll: T626_423   Race: White Page: 26A   State: Illinois ED: 221   County: Cook Image: 0411   Township: Chicago   Relationship: Head ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Toomey, Michael   View Image Online   Age: 55 Year: 1920   Birthplace: Ireland Roll: T625_356   Race: White Page: 8B   State: Illinois ED: 2239   County: Cook Image: 376   Township: Chicago ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Toomey, Michael J   View Image Online   Age: 60 Year: 1920   Birthplace: Michigan Roll: T625_323   Race: White Page: 6B   State: Illinois ED: 805   County: Cook Image: 253   Township: Chicago ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Toomey, Michael   View Image Online   Age: 55 Year: 1920   Birthplace: Ireland Roll: T625_416   Race: White Page: 11A   State: Illinois ED: 188   County: Will Image: 213   Township: Joliet Toomey, Michael F   View Image Online   Age: 2 2.12 Year: 1930   Birthplace:   Roll: T626_423   Race:   Page: 26A   State: Illinois ED: 221   County: Cook Image: 0411   Township: Chicago   Relationship: Son There are 362 John Sullivans on the 1930 census. Do you know where they lived in Chicago?? > I am looking for any info on my John Sullivans and Michael Toomey families > who lived in Joliet, WILL County from about 1886 to at least 1895, when they > all moved into Chicago. I have found them in the city directories. > > Has anyone had luck getting birth records? I notice WILL county hasn't shared > with IRAD & I am bummed. > > Regards, > > Candi in CA > > > ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== > Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ > Email listowner @ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/my-email.htm >

I just have a quick question...what exactly is the Digest? Is this something I could access for info? It caught my attention with the name Sullivan, since that is one that I am searching for. Thanks! Kathleen Carlson

Thanks for the great leads, Kathy. I had a feeling you'd be answering this one. On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 08:12 AM, kate zavada wrote: > Rev. William CLARK,pastor of M E(Mehtodist) Church,Elwood,Jackson > township-No other info available-try contacting churches in present > day elwood and or wilmington which is the next closest town.Or see if > there is a transcription available through Will Grundy Genealogy > society(WGGS)collection. See below. > > Nothing on Rev. BYERS > > Rev. John McKIM,became rector of Lockport Episcopal Church in the > summer of 1878,Episcopal church had been associated with Episcopal > churches in Chicago(St. James) and Joliet prior to this time frame. > There maybe a transcription of Episcopal church along with > Presbyterian church,in the collection of the Will Grundy Genealogy > Society(WGGS) which is housed at Coal City(IL)Public Library. > Coal City is in Grundy County-check their genweb site for links and or > addresses. > Good Hunting, > Kathy

DIGEST-means the way in which you receive messages from the Will county mailing list. Either you recieve them individually as they are made, or in digest form(grouped together). Kathy _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

For Viola, 1880 census up on mormon website: WI>VERNON Co.>WHITESTOWN MYERS Harvey F.,38,b.NY parents b. NY farmer Hattie,wife,36,b.WI,father b. VT,mother b. NY Matilda,daughter,16,b.WI,father b. NY,mother b. WI Harvey,son,12,b.IL parents info the same Walter C.,son,8,b.IL " Rollin F.,son,7,b.IL " Hattie L.,daughter,5,b.IL parents same info McCOY,Chas.E.,other for relationship,21,b.WI,farm labor,father b. PA,mother b. IL Good Hunting, Kathy _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Will county births- Will County Clerk on North Chicago St.,Joliet has an index from about 1877-1916. Birth certs not required by state of illinois until 1916, so this is a voluntary index and as such is very small compared to the actual amounts of births during this time frame. IF your ancestors lived long enough to apply for social security or any other type of retirement plan. (1940's+),there maybe a delayed birth certificate from them at the county clerk's office in the county where they were born. Will county clerk charges between $15.00 and $18.00 for a search. Full address on the will county genweb site under resources or useful liks. Good Hunting, Kathy _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Rev. William CLARK,pastor of M E(Mehtodist) Church,Elwood,Jackson township-No other info available-try contacting churches in present day elwood and or wilmington which is the next closest town.Or see if there is a transcription available through Will Grundy Genealogy society(WGGS)collection. See below. Nothing on Rev. BYERS Rev. John McKIM,became rector of Lockport Episcopal Church in the summer of 1878,Episcopal church had been associated with Episcopal churches in Chicago(St. James) and Joliet prior to this time frame. There maybe a transcription of Episcopal church along with Presbyterian church,in the collection of the Will Grundy Genealogy Society(WGGS) which is housed at Coal City(IL)Public Library. Coal City is in Grundy County-check their genweb site for links and or addresses. Good Hunting, Kathy _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

I am looking for any info on my John Sullivans and Michael Toomey families who lived in Joliet, WILL County from about 1886 to at least 1895, when they all moved into Chicago. I have found them in the city directories. Has anyone had luck getting birth records? I notice WILL county hasn't shared with IRAD & I am bummed. Regards, Candi in CA

I am looking for any info on my John Sullivans and Michael Toomey families who lived in Joliet, WILL County from about 1886 to at least 1895, when they all moved into Chicago. I have found them in the city directories. Has anyone had luck getting birth records? I notice WILL county hasn't shared with IRAD & I am bummed. Regards, Candi in CA

Hi List, I posted an item about Wilhelm Baur who died in Monee in 1910. My cousin is trying to obtain a death certificate and needs a certificate number. Did I remember reading about a Will Co., death index? and where can I find it? Missy in Michigan

Does anyone know what churches the following Will Co. ministers were connected with, and if any records from these dates exist for those churches? - W.D. Clark "Minister of the Gospel" (1855 & 1857) - D.B. Byers "Minister" (1863) - Rev. John McKim "Clergyman" (1879 in Lockport)

Good Morning Viola, About when was your grandfather born in Will County? Would help to possibly locate or give some suggestions for searching. Kathy _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

I am looking for the Myers of Will Co... IL My grandfather was born in Will Co - His name was Rollin F. Myers: born in Will Co. IL, died in Viola, Wisconsin. will be thankful for any help. Regards, Violadd

Will County Death Index entry: William BAUR age 49yrs3mo3days died 1 Sep 1909(not 1910) Monee township byruied Richton,IL(NOTE RICHTON is now RICHTON PARK,COOK County-just east of will county,monne). Kathy _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Hi, I do look-ups in the 1878 History of Will County IL. I try to look up names when posted. In the Real Estate Owners List for Crete Twp. there is a Wm. Baurmeister on page 968. Since Wilhelm is german for William and Baurmeister might have been shortened to Baur, thought you might find this helpful, if your Wilhelm was at least 50 when he died. Best Regards, Tricia M. ----- Original Message ----- From: Missy To: ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 4:29 PM Subject: [ILWILL] Wilhelm Baur Hi List, My g-g- aunt's first husband, Wilhelm Baur died on Sept. 1, 1910 supposedly in Monee. Is there a death index for Will Co. before 1916 or should I send off a request to the Will Co. Clerk's office (along with the money) and hope they have one? Thanks, Missy in Michigan ==== ILWILL Mailing List ==== Will Co, IL website address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/ Email listowner @ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/my-email.htm

For those of you in the Chicago area, the Friends of Genealogy at the Newberry Library are sponsoring "Tracking Your Polish Ancestors Via American and Polish Resources" on Thursday evening, February 13, 2003. Learn the 'ins and outs' of Polish research on both sides of the ocean, including name changes, foreign alphabets, and finding records. Your guide is Paul Valasek, past president of the Polish Genealogical Society of America and a mainstay of the Polish Museum of America and PolishRoots.org. Benefit from his years of experience researching in Eastern Europe, tracing ancestors as far back as 1604. His talk, "Tracking Your Polish Ancestors Via American and Polish Resources" will draw on his extensive research both here and abroad, including southeast Poland, Prague, and Slovakia. The Newberry holds many genealogical titles and maps pertaining to Poland. Warm up for the lecture by consulting our collection guide to Polish Genealogy at the second floor reference desk or online at: http://www.newberry.org/nl/genealogy/L3gabout.html The Newberry Library 60 West Walton (one block south of Oak Street, between Dearborn & Clark) Thursday, February 13, 2003 Doors open at 5:30 PM, Program 6:00-7:30 PM There is no cost for Members of Newberry's Friends of Genealogy. Admission for others is $10. Discounted parking is available while space permits at the 100 West Chestnut Street garage (entrance on Clark Street). Parking tickets must be validated at the Newberry Library lobby kiosk. Reservations are not necessary. For more information, call 312-255-3510.

For Patricia, Not much available on internet or by interlibrary loan on surname MACKENTHUN(Kankakee marr. lic. says MECKENTHEM)in Will County. Kankakee County gen web site-death index on net has a MEYERHOFF,Dorethea Maria book 3 page 402-book 3 dates 1903-1906 Mormon website has complete(with very few exceptions)1880 US census searchable. Could not locate any MACKENTHUN or variant. Did find Will County,Peotone page 388 C Mary MEYERHOFF,b.1830 Hanover,widow,mother in law Kate MEYERHOFF,her daughter,age 7 b. Hanover in Henry Bisping household BISPING Henry 35 b. hanover wife Mary 29,b. Hanover and several children. if you want to search for yourself www.familysearch.org go to search look to left click census and follow instructions. The will county clerk's office,on north chicago st.,joliet,il has an index to SOME early births starting in about 1877 BUT state did not require birth certs until much later(1916). Might I suggest, since your ancestors are of german extraction, that you search for a probate record on John in County Courthouse in Kansas where he died? German ancestors usually kept a very good account of family events that may be recorded in :letters of administration" and or what is called "proof of heirship"(at least in will county that where you find genealogy info in a probate. Also check for probate of his wife if she died after him. Good Hunting, Kathy _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Hello, I am in awe at how knowledgeable the people on this list are! I have researched online at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/, and Kankakee marriages at http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/cgi-bin/archives/marriage.s. Where could I verify births and other Will Co. information? What (online or interlibrary loan) sources are available to me for Will Co? My gg grandparents came from Germany on a ship in the early 1770's, wound up in Peotone and moved to Kansas in 1885. John Henry Mackenthun (b. 6-28-1851 in Germany, ch. 1865 in Germany, d. 7-17-1914 in Kansas) married Dorothea Gurtrude Marie Meyerhoff (b. 10-23-1853 in Germany, ch. 1867 in Germany, d. 7-11-1938 in Kansas) in Kankakee Co. on 8-15-1876. Their first three children were born in Peotone: Lizzie Bertha (b. 7-30-1879), John Henry (b. 11-14-1881) and Clara (b 2-23-1884). Thanks!! Patty Emporia, KS

Hi Robin, Scots records are a specialty of mine since I an half Scot myself. I noted that James' sister Anne's middle name was HODGART. That in Scot ancestry usually means she was named using her grandmother's maiden surname. So I went hunting...and found James BROODWOOD(BROADWOOD)married Janet HODGART 26 Sept 1801,Paisely,Renfrew(parish records of Abbey,Paisely,Renfrew) and had 1.-William BROADWOOD 15 Jan 1804 2.-JAMES BROADWOOD(BRAIDWOOD) 27 Oct 1805 who married Helen HERCULES 12 Dec 1829 who had James BRAIDWOOD b. 20 Oct 1831 who married Helen RALSTON and had John b.29 Mar 1856,Helen b. 5 Feb 1858,Andrew b. 8 Jun 1859,Robert b. 21 Sep 1861 and Ann(HODGART) b. 18 Oct 1863. 3.-Mary HODGART BROADWOOD 1 May 1808 then I noted in the same parish registers similar naming patterns in same time frame(1850's--1860's) John BRAIDWOOD wife Isabella HUSBAND had Robert BRAIDWOOD b. 22 Mar 1857 Mary HODGART BRAIDWOOD b. 5 Feb 1859 Janet b. 20 Jul 1860 Paisley Agnes b. 25 Aug 1862 Paisley Thomas b. 18 Jul 1864 Paisley and Alexander BRAIDWOOD wife Jane BLACBURN(Alexander maybe born 29 Nov 1834 to John Braidwood and Euphemia Thornton-Jon & Euphemia married Barony,Lanark 14 aug 1829. Alexander wife Jane(aka Jean sometimes)BLACKBURN had first two children in Paisley,Renfrew then rest in Hutchesontown,Glasgow,Lanark-which fits with marriage in Lanark. Usually married in parish of the bride) Alexander & Euphemia's children as follows: BRAIDWOOD James b. 11 Jun 1859 Paisley Euphemia b. 18 Nov 1860 Paisley John b. 24 Nov 1862 Hutchesontown,Glasgow,Lanark JANE HODGERT b.30 Dec 1865 " Alexander b. 9 aug 1867 " also have you gotten the 1861 & 1871 census' for Paisley parish(parish number 573)on microfilm? (IF birth records of Braidwoods give street address use the street index films first for 1871 census) might show connections of all families. 1861 street index film# 014116 1861 census (actual)film # 0103903 1871 street index film # 0104117 1871 census(actual) ED 1-29 film# 0104087 ED 29-30, 1-37 film # 0104088 also since James' (who founded Braidwood)sister Anne HODGART Braidwood never married,have you searched for her probate record in county courthouse where she died? Since she had no children,heirs would have been nieces and nephews or other relatives. There would have been a "proof" of heirship showing how the heirs were related. Just because John BRAIDWOOD(BROADWOOD)wife Euphemia doesn't show a birth doesn't mean he isn't a son of James BROADWOOD wife Janet HODGART,just means birth may have been outside Renfrew or not recorded as John(Jno,etc.)father only listed- birth between 1801-1813(based on his marriage in 1829 & marriage of James BROODWOOD to Janet HODGART in 1801) Scots records are complicated, no doubt about that! Hope this helps Regards, Kathy _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Hi Kathy, How lovely of you to look up all this information for me. I had gotten the Scottish records from LDS and even ordered a birth certificates from Scotland for my own Grandfather, Robert, and marriage certificates for his parents and grandparents. But I did not have all the events you sent from Will Co and Cook County. I was especially delighted to have the boarders in the Smith household census, for Robert is my own Grandfather and Andrew is his brother. Another brother is the John who married Janet Hamilton. Annie and Ellen are two of their sisters. So I very happy to have the marriage information. The John D. is not part of the family unit, and therefore I don't think the D in his name stands for DUNSMORE, although one of my Grandfather's brothers did have Dunsmore as his middle name. Andrew DUNSMORE, 2nd husband of Helen HERCULES, raised his 3 BRAIDWOOD step-children, James. Anne, and Janet from a very early age. James BRAIDWOOD (for whom the town is named) had no brother, only 2 sisters named Anne Hodgart BRAIDWOOD, who never married and Janet BRAIDWOOD who married a Robert REID in Scotland. She later immigrated to Troy, New York with 4 REID children. So I know these BRAIDWOODs in Cook county could not be "first" cousins to James, but it is likely they were some degree of cousin. Several BRAIDWOOD families have traditions that claim close kinship to my line in some way. I just wish I could figure out how. The three BRAIDWOODs below are not part of the immediate family of James and Helen RALSTON Braidwood: E BRAIDWOOD who married Eli J. Carpenter, John D. BRAIDWOOD who married Maria S. Goldsmith James G. BRAIDWOOD who married Minnie L. Snow However, I research with BRAIDWOODs of several lines and we are trying to sort out the various lineages to learn just how they may be related. So I thank you for all this new information. One other thing: the Andrew BRAIDWOOD who died in Cook County in 1930 was not the son of James BRAIDWOOD and Helen RALSTON. Their son, Andrew, migrated to Pittsburg, KS and lived there until 1950. I knew him, for he visited my family when I was a young child. I don't know which BRAIDWOOD family the Andrew you listed as dying in 1930 may belong to, but I'm working on it. I thank you for each and every tidbit you sent. I'm glad you liked my Mini-Bio of James on the Will Co Web Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/1878bios/JamesBraidwood.htm I'm gathering more information and hope to someday publish a BRAIDWOOD family genealogy and history that will tie some BRAIDWOOD families together, who have long claimed kinship without actually documenting their relationship. That is what I am trying to do now, establish proofs and get all my records in shape to share with the Will-Grundy Genealogy Library, because that is where descendants will go searching in years to come. a few years ago, I gave portraits of James BRAIDWOOD and his wife Helen RALSTON to the Fossil Ridge Library in Braidwood, Will County, and plan to get another set copied for the genealogical society since they moved away from Braidwood. Again, I thank you for taking time to help me, Sincerely, Grandmother Robin > -----Original Message----- > From: kate zavada [mailto:zavada43@hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:59 PM > To: ILWILL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [ILWILL] Braidwood surname > > > For Robin, > Have you gotten mormon microfilms and microfiche that have Scot records: > 1.-marriage of James to Helen HERCULES 12 Dec 1829 Abbey(Paisely)Renfrew > 2.-marriages of Helen HERCULES BRAIDWOOD to Andrew DUNSMORE 25 Oct 1836 > (Parish registers of Abbey,Paisely,Renfrew,film#1041090 marriages > 1819-1836,fiche # 0889472 > and > BIRTHS BRAIDWOOD,Father James, mother Helen RALSTON > film #6035516 births 1855-1875 Abbey,Paisely,Renfrew register > 1.-John 29 Mar 1856 > 2.-Helen 5 Feb 1858 > 3.-Andrew 8 Jun 1859 > 4.-Robert 21 Sep 1861 > 5.-Ann 18 Oct 1863 > And > marriage James to Helen RALSTON 10 Nov 1854 > Abbey,Paisely,Renfrew-marriages 1845-1855 film#1041091 > > 1880 census shows > BRAIDWOOD > Reed twp,will county > ELLEN,48,widow,b.scotland > Ann,daughter,18,b. Scot. > Peter,son,13,b.Il > Alexander,son,11,b.IL > Jennett,daughter,6,b.IL > and > Cook County,IL > both under Samuel SMITH(no relation claimed) > BRAIDWOOD > Andrew,boarder,21,b.Scot.,laborer > Robert,boarder,20,b.Scot.,laboer > 1880 cook,chicago,page 128D > > illinois state marriage index > BRAIDWOOD,Annie,will county,6 Dec 1883 to Peter HOWAT > " ,Ellen, " ,1 Jun 1876 to John R. MEADER > BRAIDWOOD,E(female),cook county,24 Jan 1877 Eli J. CARPENTER > " ,John D(?DUNSMORE),cook county,15 Oct 1873 Maria S. GOLDSMITH > " ,John,will county,3 May 1877 Jamet HAMILTON > " ,James G.,Carroll county,11 Oct 1886,Minnie L. SNOW > > illinois state death index > BRAIDWOOD,Andrew,died 20 May 1930 Cook County,Chicago > > Good Hunting,Liked your biography on will county site. Very nice. > Kathy >