I am looking for information about the following members of this family: Peter H. Lorenzen, father, birth Oct 1849 Amelia Guritz Lorenzen, mother, birth Mar 1859 married May 29 1878-Will County Children: Lorenz P. Lorenzen, birth May 1879 Lena Lorenzen Lauritzen, birth Nov 1881 Henrietta Lorenzen Schweser, birth Feb 1884 William C. Lorenzen, birth May 1885 Hannah Lorenzen Johnson, birth Nov 1887 Andrew Lorenzen, birth Oct 1889 Alfred Lorenzen, birth Nov 1891 Christina Lorenzen Abrahmson, birth Jun 1893 Paul Lorenzen, birth Jun 1895 Helen Lorenzen Sims, birth Nov 1896 Peter Lorenzen, birth Oct 1898 I am looking for marriage dates and names of spouses. Did they continue to live in Will County? I would appreciate any help you can give me. Louise

In the book: A Necrology of Will County Pioneers, 1897-1902 by the Will Grundy Genealogical Society p. 27 25 Feb 1899 - William Constable, of Beecher, aged 79 years. He had been a resident of eastern Will County since 1855. p. 28 11 March 1899 -Mrs. Mary Constable, widow of the late Wm. Constable of Beecher, aged 78 years. She came to eastern Will county in 1856.\ from A History of Will County, 1878, published by Wm LeBaron Jr. & Co. Chicago p. 271 "Washington & Will" (townships) " The township of Will, lying east of Washington, was settled about the same time. ...in 1854-5, John Sollitt, F. P. Lilly, P. McMahon, Robert Patterson, William Constable and William Pickard." p. 651 "In 1855, William Constable, James Pickard, Robert Patterson, and R. O. Hutchins came, the first three from New York and the last from Vermont. William Constable has been a most successful man in business. When he came to this place he was as poor as the poorest; but by industry, economy and good management he has made quite a fortune. His property is estimated at about $25,000." That's all I had in my records. You should contact the Will/Grundy Genealogical Society for more information! Good Luck Michele Houchens Three Rivers Public Library Local History Collection ----- Original Message ----- From: Barb Marshall <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 4:29 PM Subject: [ILWILL-L] CONSTABLE, Richard & Wm 1853-??? > I am researching the families of Wm and Richard CONSTABLE. They bought land > in Will CO in 1853. Richard moved to Newton CO, IN abt 1869. Wm remained in > Will CO until his death around 1898. Any info would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Barb > > Barb Marshall > Half Moon Bay, CA, USA > List Mom of BAGLEY & DRAKE email lists > > > > >

Searching for the Date of death for; Michael or Mike Porazil and Barbara Porazil Thank you in advance Ray

Michele, I am looking for ROSCOE/RUSCO family members who were in Will County (Peotone, Will, and Crete, for certain) in the late 1860s and beyond. They had moved their from Herkimer County, NY. I know my great-great grandmother Nancy Corbin Roscoe died shortly after they got there in 1872. Is there any entry for this family in your Necrology records? Thanks, Kathy in Massachusetts

Greetings All Listers in or outside Illinois, First my apologies to those who see this message as off-topic or inappropriate. In my newly established position as the Director of Public Relations for the Historical Society of Greater Peotone (My wife is soo proud? :>) I'm working on an electronic library of Historical & Genealogical resources to permit an exchange of information. It will be appreciated if you can provide an email and/or street ad for your local City, County, etc. Genealogical/ Historical libraries & societies. Info on resources outside of IL Society in or outside of IL will be accepted. By all means, DO NOT reply to the list, instead mailto: <[email protected]> Walter God Bless you & yours, Walter (& Joan) MCELLIGOTT Peotone, IL (45 mi. so. of Chicago) MCELLIGOTT-L & Rootsweb sponsor <http://www.rootsweb.com/>

I am looking for the surnames SOLON/SOLAN and ANDREWS in McLean, Livingston and Will counties in IL. I will share what I have so far on this SOLON family to help you locate information about my ancestors. My grandmother was Evelyn Agnes SOLON born 28 Dec 1898 in Graymont, Livingston County, IL. She had the following siblings: Florence Ruth, Helen Marie, Duane Leo, Vincent "Bud", Catherine Elizabeth "Cass", Paul, and Edward Jerome "Jerry". Her father was Joseph SOLON (born about 1869 in Cayuga, IL) who was married 14 Aug 1893 in McLean County, IL to Susan Elizabeth Andrews (born April 17, 1875 in Pontiac, Livingston Co., IL). Joseph was the son of Thomas Solon born about 1836 in Ireland who married Sarah McGuire? born about 1835 also in Ireland. The children in this family include: Teresa (born 1862 Shirley, McLean Co., IL) (buried St. Paul's Cemetery outside Odell, IL), Nora "Nan" (born 1864 Lockport, IL), Isabel (born 1865 IL), Mary (born 1867 IL), Joseph (born 1869 Cayuga, IL), Agnes (born 1872 IL), and Sarah (born 1878 IL). (1880 census: Odell Twp, Livingston Co., IL) (vol. 34, sheet 14, line 14, Ed 114) This census lists the following family: SOLON: Thomas 44 born Ireland Sarah 45 born Ireland Teresa 17 born Illinois Isabel 15 born Illinois Mary 13 born Illinois Joseph 11 born Illinois Agnes 08 born Illinois Sarah 02 born Illinois This is as much as I know about the SOLON line from which I descend. This mean that Joseph SOLON was married in this county in 1893 and his sister Teresa was born in Shirley, McLean Co., IL in 1862. Susan Elizabeth ANDREWS (born April 17, 1875 in Pontiac, Livingston Co., IL) was the daughter of Thomas and Mary Evaline (BRADY) SOLON both were born before 1855, but I am not sure when exactly or where. Thanks for any help you can give. Karen Beidelman Please e-mail me directly at: [email protected]

How does one do a search in the Will County General directory as mentioned below? Johann Friedrich Klockow b. December 18, 1824 in Germany. He arrived in Will County, IL in 1852. John is listed in Directory of Real Estate Owners, Monee Township, 1878 as a farmer. I am not sure if this mean he owned the land or if he just farmed it. Also, according to the Will County General Directory for 1872-73, he was a farmer residing on the S 1/2 of the SW quarter of Section 20 of Monee township, Will County, IL (Today this is approximately directly west of Interstate 57 south of Chicago.) What I am looking for is any information on this land. He later moved to Iowa in 1878 after the death of his wife Caroline Juenke. Christine

I am not aware that the Danes followed this custom. I am a 100% Danish-American (second generation) and none of my forbearers (so far as I know now- back 8 generations) ever had a name derived from the name of a farm. The pattern you describe for 'first' and 'middle' names was the pattern for first and last names, respectively. Fritz Hansen, Wichita, Kansas ----- Original Message ----- From: Ida B. Wiese <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 3:48 PM Subject: [ILWILL-L] Jorgeson > The brothers Jorgeson were probably George (Georg or Jorge) and Peter > Jorgeson before they immigrated, but in the Scandinavian countries there > would have been a third name--the farm name where they were from. > Scandinavians always had three names--their own first name (which was > determined by the order of their birth, after the male grandfather, the > female grandfather etc, or in the case of females, the female grandmothers > etc.) followed by their father's name with son or dau attached as their > middle name (Jorge's son would be Jorgeson), followed by their farm name (as > Himle or Hilla etc). <SNIP>

The brothers Jorgeson were probably George (Georg or Jorge) and Peter Jorgeson before they immigrated, but in the Scandinavian countries there would have been a third name--the farm name where they were from. Scandinavians always had three names--their own first name (which was determined by the order of their birth, after the male grandfather, the female grandfather etc, or in the case of females, the female grandmothers etc.) followed by their father's name with son or dau attached as their middle name (Jorge's son would be Jorgeson), followed by their farm name (as Himle or Hilla etc). It would look like they dropped their farm name, as was often the case, and George maybe changed his 1st name from Jorge. If you can find any trace of the farm name, it is comparatively easy to trace them in Scandinavia, as records were required to be kept, and you always know the first name of the father, and often the grandfather because of the naming pattern. Checking out the names of the immigrants children (in this case both George and Peter) often is helpful, as there will be similarities if they continued the old country naming system, as most of them did, at least for a generation, but you do need to know birth order. If you know approximate year of immigration, look for George (Jorge) and Peter Jorgeson something else in immigration lists. Check for APPLICATION for naturalization papers--this should give the place they came from. The naturalization papers themselves may not. These may be held by the county or state, depending on where they lived. Check for land records--some may give where they were from , particularly if they received land patents and they had to prove citizenship. And check area church records where Scandinavians belonged. Mine belonged to a Norwegian Lutheran church, and records were kept in Norwegian with full Norwegian names for all family members, even though the family members did not use the farm name after immigration. Good luck in your search. Ida > George Jorgeson with his brother Peter Jorgeson. > > By the 1880 census he apparently started spelling his name as George > Jorgenson, and his brother spelled his name as Peter Jorgensen. There is > also a family story that the name was changed during Atlantic passage - but > no clue as to what it might have been before he immigrated. > > Can anyone offer any suggestions as to how I might identify his original > surname?

Johann Friedrich Klockow b. December 18, 1824 in Germany. He arrived in Will County, IL in 1852. John is listed in Directory of Real Estate Owners, Monee Township, 1878 as a farmer. I am not sure if this mean he owned the land or if he just farmed it. Also, according to the Will County General Directory for 1872-73, he was a farmer residing on the S 1/2 of the SW quarter of Section 20 of Monee township, Will County, IL (Today this is approximately directly west of Interstate 57 south of Chicago.) What I am looking for is any information on this land. He later moved to Iowa in 1878 after the death of his wife Caroline Juenke. Christine

At 07:35 AM 2/7/00 , you wrote: >Good Morning Barbara, >There are no listings for CONSTABLE in the will county death >index(1877-1915) >Did find a >John CONTABLE 1853-1924 Manteo(Kankakee County not Will County) listed in >the privately published book >Necrology of Peotone,Will Co.,IL residents, relatives and friends including >cemetery transcriptions from many local cemeteries by william conrad >transcribed by robert s. degenkolb in 1996 > >Part of what is now Kankakee county(northern border) was once part of Will >county. I believe Kankakee county was formeed in about 1857. You might check >kankakee's 1st federal census which was 1860. >Kathy Richard was in Wilton Center and Wm in Peotone. Ruchard moved to Newton CO, IN abt 1869 but Wm remained there. I have Wm's will which I need to dig out for other family names. I think the John you mentioned was on the will. I'll have to look and see. Thanks very much. Barb Barb Marshall Half Moon Bay, CA, USA List Mom of BAGLEY & DRAKE email lists

Good Morning Anna, Do you have her parents names? If not you should get her marriage license from will county, that would probably give her parents names. A marriage in 1921 is too "new" to be listed for free on any will county index. It would have to have been before 1901 for me to access any free info. I checked the illinois marriage index for spelling BORONI-there are no marriages listed. Possibly the name could also be spelled BARONE or BARONI. Try those spellings when you do your research. I also found a similar name, are you sure of the spelling? I found BERTONI listing in the will county death index. I did find a listing in will county death index for BARONE,Antonio age 19y6m died 26oct 1907 in Joliet buried st. patrick's cemetery(joliet) I checked the transcriptions of tombstones for st. patrick's which is on the net. There is no recording for any of the spellings. That's all I could find. Good Hunting Kathy

Good Morning Barbara, There are no listings for CONSTABLE in the will county death index(1877-1915) Did find a John CONTABLE 1853-1924 Manteo(Kankakee County not Will County) listed in the privately published book Necrology of Peotone,Will Co.,IL residents, relatives and friends including cemetery transcriptions from many local cemeteries by william conrad transcribed by robert s. degenkolb in 1996 Part of what is now Kankakee county(northern border) was once part of Will county. I believe Kankakee county was formeed in about 1857. You might check kankakee's 1st federal census which was 1860. Kathy

Am trying to locate family of Dora Boroni b. 5Jun1898 in Joliet, IL. She married my uncle Louis J Gualdoni on 12Jan 1921 in Joliet but they raised their family in St Louis MO. Anna : [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 2:17 AM Subject: ILWILL-D Digest V00 #21

My great-grandfather came through Cook County in the 1860's and moved to Will County by the 1880's. He seems to be listed in the 1870 census as George Jorgeson with his brother Peter Jorgeson. By the 1880 census he apparently started spelling his name as George Jorgenson, and his brother spelled his name as Peter Jorgensen. There is also a family story that the name was changed during Atlantic passage - but no clue as to what it might have been before he immigrated. Can anyone offer any suggestions as to how I might identify his original surname? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

At 07:19 PM 2/6/00 , you wrote: >In a message dated 02/06/2000 2:41:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > ><< I am researching the families of Wm and Richard CONSTABLE >> >on the list of Real Estate Owners in the book 1878 History of Will Co., IL. >it has listed; >Constable, W., farmer. P. O. Peotone. Will Twp. > >that is the only listing in the estate owners list for Constable name. >I didn't know is you had the Twp. and town of property or not. >Margie Thanks! I looked up the land recs on line and will send for the originals. Sure appreciate your efforts. Barb Barb Marshall Half Moon Bay, CA, USA List Mom of BAGLEY & DRAKE email lists

I am researching the families of Wm and Richard CONSTABLE. They bought land in Will CO in 1853. Richard moved to Newton CO, IN abt 1869. Wm remained in Will CO until his death around 1898. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Barb Barb Marshall Half Moon Bay, CA, USA List Mom of BAGLEY & DRAKE email lists

In a message dated 02/06/2000 2:41:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << I am researching the families of Wm and Richard CONSTABLE >> on the list of Real Estate Owners in the book 1878 History of Will Co., IL. it has listed; Constable, W., farmer. P. O. Peotone. Will Twp. that is the only listing in the estate owners list for Constable name. I didn't know is you had the Twp. and town of property or not. Margie

In a message dated 1/18/00 7:33:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > While it is a little way away, there are Oldendorfs in Dwight ILL. May not > help, but I thought worth mentioning. A Robert Oldendorf still lives there > and runs a resturant. > Sorry I can't be sure of the spelling and an address as I have not lived in > Dwight for abt 45 years. > Wayne Reed > [email protected] > > While not disputing Wayne's word, as the phone #'s may be unpublished, my 1995 Morris phone book, which lists Dwight, does not show any OLDENDORF. There are however 3 OHLENDORF's. FYI, Mike SWARTZ / AZ........ researching SWARTZ / SVARC / CERNY / HAJEK

Lori! Weather in this area now? It's cold, snowing a little, the snow is blowing a lot, making driving interesting, the roads are slick and snow covered in some places. I know what you mean about wanting to see your ancestor's land. Just to walk where they walked. I live in Minooka - just down the road from Channahon and I'm Local History Curator for the Minooka/Channahon area of the Three Rivers Public Library - what would you like to know about it? Michele On Fri, 4 Feb 2000, Lori Stevens wrote: > Hi Kathy :) > > Yesterday, Michelle sent me a few files that were the answer to my dream > ... I think I can figure out where Michael Manning's land was located by > superimposing the map she sent me. If I cannot do it that way, the land > records would give me the exact location. What am I looking for in those > land records? Just trying to reach out and touch them :) I've seen other > deed info, and the most they usually have in addition to the land location > is the name of friends and witnesses. > > You said weather is restrictive at this time of year? Can you give us a > glimpse into what life is like in Joliet? I was born and raised in Southern > California and now live in Denver, so I at least know what Winter is like > *grin* Perhaps you know of a URL that gives one a "glimpse into the life" > of a Channahonian? > > This list has been great and I really want to thank everyone that has > helped. If I can ever do anything from the state of Colorado, please let > me know. > > Lori > > ****************************************************************************** Michele Roberts Houchens {\"/} [email protected] {/V\} {\"/} Three Rivers Public Library {/V\} Minooka, Il. 60447 ******************************************************************************