Corbin was her maiden name. She was born in CT of an old New England line that runs all the way back to Richard Warren of the Mayflower. Nancy Corbin married Russel Rusco (of another old New England line). They reared their family in Frankfort, Herkimer County, NY. After Russel died, Nancy lived with her oldest son, David Roscoe. She moved with his family to Peotone, Illinois in the late 1860s. I have a family Bible record that shows that the last of David's children--including my grandfather, Charles Roscoe-- were born in Peotone. Thus, I know the family actually lived in Peotone for some time. I also have photos and letters which refer to Will Township, Crete, and Kankakee. At some point, around the 1880s, most of the family moved to DeWitt, Nebraska. However, I know that David's oldest daughter, Nancy (named for her grandmother) Fero Roscoe stayed in Peotone. She was married to John A. Baird. Please note as well that the family name went through many transitions: Rusco/Rosco/Roscoe, among others. However, I think by the time they got to Illinois, Nancy (Corbin) Rusco was Nancy Rosco(e) pretty regularly. Thanks to everyone for all the help on this. This list is a great one. Kathy

Thank you for this information. I will contact him today.

Hi Cherie, Didn't have to go to the library. Never heard of spring valley BUT Mt. Olivet cemetery in wilmington has Bamricks. I have the transcription of that cemetery published by WGGS(will grundy genealogy society). Old Catholic cem(Mt. olivet old section-there are 3 sections only oldest has been transcribed) Lot 93(ownership unknown) 1. Mary A., daughter of J & S. BAMRICK, died 8 sep 1874 aged 1 yr.,8 days. lot 94 right next door ownership unknown empty of markers could be a relative check wilmington public library obit index starts before the civil war and goes to current. 201 Kankakee Street wilmington,il 60481. It's about 5 blocks from my home. I take my granddaughter there at least twice a week. I will check and see if you want when I go next time-probably monday or tuesday. Illinois state marriage index shows BAMRICK,william married cook county 2 may 1895 Lizzie Cuykendall-problem with cook county marriages is that you very RARELY get parents names on licenses. Might find the church and the ages of the bride and groom but that's all. Yes I do paid research. Contact me directly. However I still do volunteer for the will county site-anything that I have in my home or is available at my local libraries WITHOUT having to make copies or takes more than a few minutes to locate. Kathy

Hi Ray, I was checking the illinois state marriage index on the web and tried your surname this is what I found PORAZIL Mary married in will county 16 nov 1895 James Moules. Her parents might be listed on the license or it's application. Also may show where she married like the church? That would help locate records. PORAZILOVA(did they shorten their surname?) Barbara married in cook county 19 aug 1889 James Kratochvil You can get a copy of the will county marriage from will county clerk's office 302 North Chicago St.,Joliet,Il 60432 cost is $9.00(outrageous I think but..) Kathy

there was a Corbin family in Wilmington, married into the Stewart family. Also some Corbins up here in Elwood, will look for Nancy. Was that her married or birth surname? arlene

Kathy, I read with interest the letter you sent to Ray giving him advise on locating his ancestors...The next time you are in the library, would you look up BAMRICK? We know that Edward BAMRICK, James BAMRICK and John BAMRICK lived in Braidwood and I know that James and family moved to Nebraska in1886. I think Edward died in Illinois and is buried at Mt Olivet cemetary in Spring Valley and John's wife Hannah maybe buried there also. Do not know what happened to John. Would appreciate a lookup and will also use the info you sent to Ray for further requests. Can you help me? I would be happy to pay for your time. Cherie Bamrick [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: zavada <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [ILWILL-L] ILWILL-L Porazil : Hi Ray, : I checked the will county death index(start 1877 to 1915) in the will grundy : genealogy collection(WGGS)at the fossil ridge library in braidwood. There : were no listings(meaning no death certs were made)for your ancestors. : : The only suggestions I have are : 1-contact the wilmington public library and see if they have obits(they are : indexed)201 Kankakee St.,Wilmington,Il 60481 : 2-braidwood newspapers don't start until after 1920 and ARE NOT indexed : 3-try kankakee and grundy counties which but up against will county in : godley area : 4-find a library which has the state of illinois death index which starts in : 1916-through mid 1940's. WGGS used to have a copy of these microfiche state : death indexes but when I went there today-it was gone. So don't know where : to tell you to get access now. : 5-get death certs. and obits for michael and his wife if you don't already : have them. : 6-get the 1900,1910 and 1920 census for will county and follow them until : they aren't there anymore IF that's where they died and IF you haven't done : that already. : 7-ask for a search will county clerk of the circuit court to see if there is : a probate record for your ancestors. Also check grundy county and kankakee : county. Will County Clerk of the Circuit court 14 w. jefferson : street,joliet,illinois 60432 : 8-contact WGGS P.O.Box24,wilmington,il 60481 and ask if they have : anything.They DO NOT STAFF THEIR COLLECTION at the fossil ridge library but : they have a volunteer who will look for a small fee.THEREIS NO PHONE NUMBER : to contact WGGS directly and the Fossil Ridge Librarians know very little : about the WGGS Collection. : Hope some of this helps. : Kathy Zavada : : :

Bob Degenkolb still is at that address. Wm. Conrad had a store in Peotone for many years, went to school with my grandfather,etc. According to the foreword in his necrology he had collected lots of those names,etc. Those who didn't live in Peotone had roots in Peotone, went to school or church there, was married into a local family somehow. I bought a copy of the necrology from Bob last year and he still have a few copies left, about $10 including postage and that is his cost. I've been able to help many folks with this book. arlene

Hi Ray, I checked the will county death index(start 1877 to 1915) in the will grundy genealogy collection(WGGS)at the fossil ridge library in braidwood. There were no listings(meaning no death certs were made)for your ancestors. The only suggestions I have are 1-contact the wilmington public library and see if they have obits(they are indexed)201 Kankakee St.,Wilmington,Il 60481 2-braidwood newspapers don't start until after 1920 and ARE NOT indexed 3-try kankakee and grundy counties which but up against will county in godley area 4-find a library which has the state of illinois death index which starts in 1916-through mid 1940's. WGGS used to have a copy of these microfiche state death indexes but when I went there today-it was gone. So don't know where to tell you to get access now. 5-get death certs. and obits for michael and his wife if you don't already have them. 6-get the 1900,1910 and 1920 census for will county and follow them until they aren't there anymore IF that's where they died and IF you haven't done that already. 7-ask for a search will county clerk of the circuit court to see if there is a probate record for your ancestors. Also check grundy county and kankakee county. Will County Clerk of the Circuit court 14 w. jefferson street,joliet,illinois 60432 8-contact WGGS P.O.Box24,wilmington,il 60481 and ask if they have anything.They DO NOT STAFF THEIR COLLECTION at the fossil ridge library but they have a volunteer who will look for a small fee.THEREIS NO PHONE NUMBER to contact WGGS directly and the Fossil Ridge Librarians know very little about the WGGS Collection. Hope some of this helps. Kathy Zavada

Hi, Sounds like a good idea and I will do that. Thanks. Louise zavada wrote: > > Hi There, > Had a chance to go look at will county marriages on microfilm in the WGGS collection. Think you better get a certified copy of Peter H. LORENZEN's marriage because it lists where he was born and his parents names. Same for his bride Amalia. > Cost for cert. copy is $9.00 > will county clerk's office 302 North Chicago Street,Joliet,Il 60432 > Kathy Zavada

Hi Kathy, there is NO death cert. for her I checked. Source of what William CONRAD(who died in 1966)was -his father John CONRAD who started recording these entries in 1892 who decided to keep a record of all Peotonians deaths. Records were kept in seperate books for each year, at John's death in 1919 there were 27 books.William got them and kept up the work until 1927 when they were destroyed by fire. He then made a survey of all Peotone area cemeteries and got some folks that his father hadn't gotten. He claimed in 1963 that he had included friends and relatives who never lived in Peotone. The original copy of the necrology is at the Peotone Public Library. It is a handwritten ledger in very fragile condition. Robert Degenkolb got permission from the library to photocopy it and providing copies to several genealogy libraries(WGGS collection has the one I looked at). Robert Degenkolb's address in 1996 was 116 Knollwood Lane Fairfield Glade,TN 38558 That's all I know. Kathy Zavada

Hi There, Had a chance to go look at will county marriages on microfilm in the WGGS collection. Think you better get a certified copy of Peter H. LORENZEN's marriage because it lists where he was born and his parents names. Same for his bride Amalia. Cost for cert. copy is $9.00 will county clerk's office 302 North Chicago Street,Joliet,Il 60432 Kathy Zavada

I have not encountered the spelling PORZEL during my searching of the Porazil family.

Kathy: Thanks for responding.Michael or Mathias Porazil born appox 1840 and Barbara Porazil born approx 1837 resided in Godley Illinois and died after 1910. Family rumor is that they are buried in the Bohemian National Cemetary near Braidwood Illinois,however cemetary records do not list the burials and there are not any markers. I do know that their son Mike and his wife Anna are buried in the cemetary and only Annas grave has a marker. Thanks for whatever you can find out. Ray

Once other comment, I did write to the Will County Clerk's Office twice looking for Nancy Corbin death info--and sent them a check and a SASE. Each time they replied that no such record could be found. Would you happen to know the source(s) Conrad used? Is it possible to obtain a copy of the Degenkolb's transcription of these records? Thank you again for all your help. Kathy S. in Massachusetts

Kathy, I can't . hank you enough for this information. I have looked long and hard for where Nancy Corbin died. The Martha mentioned was her granddaughter. If I can help you with any resource out here in the cold NE, please don't hesitate to ask. Kathy S.

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> > Searching for the Date of death for; > > Michael or Mike Porazil and Barbara Porazil I'm curious as to if you have run into the spelling PORZEL. I have PORZEL ancestors who came from Bavaria and settled in Cook County. I did find where one had been in Dubuque, Iowa and have yet to determine if he went onto Cook Co. http://public.surfree.com/mfuller/family.htm

At 12:43 PM 2/9/00 , you wrote: >In the book: A Necrology of Will County Pioneers, 1897-1902 by the Will >Grundy Genealogical Society > >p. 27 >25 Feb 1899 - William Constable, of Beecher, aged 79 years. He had been a >resident of eastern Will County since 1855. This has got to be the best list ever! Thanks to the wonderful helpers on this list who took the time and energy to locate, type, and send all of the CONSTABLE data. You are all too wonderful for words! I haven't worked on this line in years so though I had a little info before, I've forgotten most of it and the rest was either in a huge binder or saved on those big floppies that were used in the early '90s. I just dug out the binder and removed a few pages that will help me rewrite my Constable bio - thanks to the help from all of you. Barb Barb Marshall Half Moon Bay, CA, USA List Mom of BAGLEY & DRAKE email lists

Hi Ray, Do you have an approximate time frame and location with in will county? It would help me help you. Kathy Zavada

>From "Where the Trails Cross", Vol. XVI:1, Fall 1985 Sidelights on Washington and Will Townships by Lloyd E. Bate Thomas Tong came here as the herdsman for a shipment of Hereford cattle from England, in 1884, that was consigned to a Hereford breeder in Manteno. He was employed by WILLIAM CONSTABLE as a herdsman on his farm in Will Township. This is where he (Tong) met Lettie Brooker, also employed there and a niece of the Constables, who became his wife on June 5, 1887. They became the parents of Mrs. Lloyd Bate. The Tongs, with some financial assistance from the Constables, bought a 120 acre farm in 1901.

Hi Kathy, Info from book privately published Necrology of Peotone,Will County,Illinois residents,relatives and friends by william r. conrad published and transcribed by Robert S. Degenkolb 1996 (entries do not have any other info such as location of cemetery) Nancy Rosco age 88 years 6 Apr 1872 Martha Rosco 18years 26 aug 1875 (FREE)will county death index(start 187-end1915. Will county does have more to current but you have to go tocounty clerk's office and pay for a search. ROSCOE,Alfred age 54 years3months 5 days died 4oct1914 in joliet buried elmhurst cemetery(joliet) This should help. Good Hunting! Kathy Zavada