In 1880, Hopkins Twp., Whiteside Co., IL were: Engle, Frank M 46 M Farmer PA PA PA Ann Eliza F 42 M Wf PA PA PA Jacob M 17 S Sn Farmlaborer IL PA PA Carrie F 13 S Da IL PA PA Franklin M 12 S Sn IL PA PA David M 9 S Sn IL PA PA Katie F 7 S Da IL PA PA Eugene M 5 S Sn IL PA PA Adam M 3 S Sn IL PA PA Since the children were born in Illinois, checking 1870, also in Hopkins: Engle, Franklin 38 M PA Farmer Louise 36 F PA Jacob 8 M IL Frank 4 M IL Carrie 2 F IL Next door is a possible brother: Engle, Joseph 38 M PA Farmer Henrietta 26 F NY Hall, Charles 9 M IL Hardin, Altice 17 M PA farmlaborer Hilliard, Emma 26 F PA Domestic Emmings, Lucy 80 F NY I suspected that Charles was a son of Henrietta by an earlier marriage and from the Illinois Marriage index: ENGLE, JOSEPH HALL, HENRIETTA WHITESIDE 02/16/1867 / 00001766 and ...a couple pages away, possible parents! Engle, David 64 M PA Farmer Catherin 58 F PA Elmyria 16 F PA Johnson, Samuel 19 M OH Good Luck, Bob