Johanna In the 1850 census in Whiteside County the family was: 409/409 Leander Bates 37 M Farmer NY Mary 36 F NY Peter 17 M Laborer NY Jacob 13 M Conn. Emily 9 F Conn. Frederick 9 M Conn. Mary J. 4 F NY Clemming 1 M Ill. This introduces a BIG question!! Clemming as a Male instead of Clementine! Unfortunately, if they moved in 1858, they would not show up in the 1860 census. I doublechecked and they were NOT there in 1860. With a 1 year old baby, if you have other information that shows Clementine is female, I would trust that! The census taker may have just misunderstood what he was told! Bob -----Original Message----- From: darryl & johanna [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 3:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: BATES Hi, I'm new to this list and looking for any information on the following : Clementine Bates, b. 16 Jan. 1849, Whiteside Co. IL Ellen Bates, b. 2 July 1852, Illinois Lillian Bates, b. 2 Apr. 1855, Illinois Parents are Leander BATES and Mary DEGARMO They lived in Illinois untill 1858 when they moved to Nebraska. Anything on these or other family members appreciated. Thank you Johanna ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com