Well, Steve, & others: I'm not at my home desk now, but... As for RISTER et al. families, all too numerous to remember... (WILSON, McDANIEL, CREEK/CREIG, NASH, PARRISH, RAMSEY, JONES, FARLEY, McCALLUM...etc..) I'm waiting on that marriage film...hopeful it will contain more than what we've already seen. Knock lots of family tree wood, as I'm not too optimistic (uncharacteristic for me). Prolly won't get to see it til week after TG. The big mystery combo I *was hoping to solve first was: Why is Jacob & entire family hiding from the 1850 enumerators? Where is Jacob's eldest daughter, Lucinda Rister WILSON (John L. b. Posey, IN) in the 1850, when her first daughter, Margaret Wilson Withrow was to be born 1849-1850 in IL? You would not believe the spelling creativity I've used to try and hunt these guys down! I did follow up looking for that George Rister as possible father to our suspected brothers. Nothing so far. Couldn't find one of similar age in the usual places or surrounds. My guess is 'that' one had died prior to that dern 1850. The usual suspects do pop up in the SC databases in Craven, Granville, Berkeley & Lexington counties. Jacob, John, Adam, Abraham, Frederick, George, Christian. Looking at those gives you a good idea of how many spellings are recorded for that surname -- many making extremely loose Soundex connections. Unfortunately no will book records which point to our guys, who like the treacherous Yankees they forbore, apparently forsook Dixie! ;-`) After the marriage film comes a search for probate (film avail.) & obit on Jacob (only available locally, if exists). Let me know if you have similar for Harmon (sorry, my notes at home would tell me where your progress stands on this, I think). I would consider Black Hawk War papers if I had recommendation from experienced researchers that these may prove fruitful. Whaddya think? Di