Bill Huckaby has been giving some very good thought about what happened to my Joseph Edgar Carter family. Quote: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- A Mrs. Elizabeth Carter married Berry Rose on February 9, 1879, in White Co., Illinois. The 1880 Census transcript shows Berry Rose and wife Elizabeth living in Mill Shoals Twp., White Co. In the household, there are three children of interest: Viola E. Carter, age 15, Joseph E. Carter age 12 and Mary T. Carter, age 9. This shows that Mrs. Elizabeth Carter is was the mother of Joseph E. (Edgar) Carter. This data is consistent with what we believe about Joseph E, Carter and would indicate that Mrs. Elizabeth Carter is likely to have been Elizabeth Musgrave, the wife of William Carter. This would also hint at the fact that it is likely that William Carter had died though it is possible that there was a divorce. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Does anyone have access to the marriage records that could give me more detail about the marriage of Mrs. Elizabeth CARTER and Berry ROSE? Also, if anyone does have access, I would also like the details of the marriage of Joseph Edgar Carter and Bales, Alice Elizabeth Marcus (MRS) Date is 11/15/1884. If not, I will have to send away for that information. Thank you everyone for all the help that you have given. Thanks, Mike Clemmons