It looks like someone else is looking for Richard Collard, I have copies of probate records, marriage certificates and they don't give a clue to who Phoebes parents are who Richards children are, I myself am looking for something beyond the obvious, it will have to be a family record probably. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <ILWHITE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ILWHITE-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:28 PM Subject: ILWHITE-D Digest V03 #54