I too would like to see the old railroad station picture. When I was a child my mother and I would board a train in Kankakee and ride it to Benton to see my grandparents in McLeansboro. The name of the train was The City of New Orleans but I'm not sure which railroad line it was. I often wondered if that was the same train that was referenced in the Arlo Guthrie song years later that started "Riding on the City of New Orleans........". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anna Pinter" <apinter_2000@hotmail.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Re: Millers in White County to Muhlenberg > I would like to see a photo of the old railroad station. My mother and i > road the train and came into Carmi, Il. to see my grandparents. > > Anna > > > >From: Thikaben@aol.com > >Reply-To: ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com > >To: ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Re: Millers in White County to Muhlenberg > >Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 16:46:52 EDT > > > >I don't know what railroad line went through Carmi, but somewhere around > >here, I have a photo of the old railway station. > > > >Jane > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

It was the Illinois Central Railroad. ----- Original Message ----- From: "skala" <nancydrew@panax.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Re: Millers in White County to Muhlenberg > I too would like to see the old railroad station picture. When I was a > child my mother and I would board a train in Kankakee and ride it to Benton > to see my grandparents in McLeansboro. The name of the train was The City > of New Orleans but I'm not sure which railroad line it was. I often > wondered if that was the same train that was referenced in the Arlo Guthrie > song years later that started "Riding on the City of New Orleans........". > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anna Pinter" <apinter_2000@hotmail.com> > To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 6:37 PM > Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Re: Millers in White County to Muhlenberg > > > > I would like to see a photo of the old railroad station. My mother and i > > road the train and came into Carmi, Il. to see my grandparents. > > > > Anna > > > > > > >From: Thikaben@aol.com > > >Reply-To: ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Re: Millers in White County to Muhlenberg > > >Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 16:46:52 EDT > > > > > >I don't know what railroad line went through Carmi, but somewhere around > > >here, I have a photo of the old railway station. > > > > > >Jane > > > > > > > > >============================== > > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > >go to: > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

I don't know what railroad line went through Carmi, but somewhere around here, I have a photo of the old railway station. Jane

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In a message dated 8-09-2002 9:57:20 AM, HELTSLEY@aol.com writes: << For what it's worth, my own father came to Eldorado in 1918 from Muhlenberg Co., Ky. and married my mother. Her father also had a farm south of Norris City. I'm guessing the railroad connections to Saline and White were pretty good to Muhlenberg through Evansville once the L&N was built.Don't know if the L&N came through Carmi but it likely did, along with some others. Anyone have an opinion on this? Ernie >> Earnie, If the L&N was a railroad, I took one to Carmi in the 1950s. Kathleen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Yh.2ADE/408.427.1 Message Board Post: Carole, I appreciate your offer, but thanks to this list the family they belonged to found me. So i send them all back to MI. :) Thanks anyway, Don

For what it's worth, my own father came to Eldorado in 1918 from Muhlenberg Co., Ky. and married my mother. Her father also had a farm south of Norris City. I'm guessing the railroad connections to Saline and White were pretty good to Muhlenberg through Evansville once the L&N was built.Don't know if the L&N came through Carmi but it likely did, along with some others. Anyone have an opinion on this? Ernie

I don't know if the L & N stopped in Carmi but it did stop in Enfield and it went into Hamilton County where I know it stopped in Thackeray. My mother has told me stories about my grandparents putting her and her brothers on the train and telling the conductor to "put them off in Thackeray". Carol Janes HELTSLEY@aol.com wrote:For what it's worth, my own father came to Eldorado in 1918 from Muhlenberg Co., Ky. and married my mother. Her father also had a farm south of Norris City. I'm guessing the railroad connections to Saline and White were pretty good to Muhlenberg through Evansville once the L&N was built.Don't know if the L&N came through Carmi but it likely did, along with some others. Anyone have an opinion on this? Ernie ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Miller, Roelofson/Rolofson, Cameron, Rutledge, Veatch, Mayes, Trousdale, and others Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Yh.2ADE/1941.1.1 Message Board Post: Re: Peter Miller & Eunice Hale ... I have no data for this Milller family. My main line of research for White Co., IL is the ROELOFSON line and their intermarried families & the RUTLEDGE line and their intermarried families. As a result of my research of these more direct lines, I've seen the Miller family involved with both lines (Rutledge line more directly) and so I have tried to iron out the wrinkles in the Millers so that I understand which ones (since the naming patterns repeat names in each successive generation) "belong" to me. Much of my data is yet undocumented and so I continue to publish my information in hopes of having it validated/invalidated by those who know about the documents and may be willing to share them with me. Hope this helps in the long run ....

unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: <BamiyanTourist@aol.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Phillips of Illinois book > PS > > They will show in their computer whether/where the desired book/film is > available to be lent. The library takes care of all requests and will notify > you when the item is available. > > But be patient. It did take nearly six weeks for the copy to get to > Virginia. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Miller, Edwards, Hale Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Yh.2ADE/1941.1 Message Board Post: You have a Peter Miller listed in your outline. Do you have any information on a Peter Miller to married a Eunice Hale. One of their daughters was Sarah Eunice Miller who married Berry Edwards? I would appreciate any help. Thank you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Yh.2ADE/1940.2.1.1.2 Message Board Post: thanks for your response. I still have FTM 6.0 so I'm really behind the times. I tried to generate a GEDCOM file with just the Millers, but was unable to figure out how to do that. I did create a family file with just the Millers, but a lot of information was left out, so I guess I need to experiment. How would I send it to you? also who's KB Cook? I didn't receive an email from that person. someone else told me that Muehlenberg, Ky, was a place a lot of families in White County moved from and was a good place to look.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Yh.2ADE/408.427 Message Board Post: What a wonderful find. I'm not related but live near Jackson, MI and would be glad to leave a copy of your Jackson letters at our local history department at our library and also look around to see if I can figure out who these people were. Carole in Mi. Center, MI. just click on my name for my e-mail address.

> I will miss the genealogy column in the Carmi Times written by Charlene. And the many times, I visited the library in the past, I appreciated Janet's help. The staff at the library helped take me from a beginner to the point that I really knew what I am doing. I haven't visited the library recently because of physical problems, but I thank all three of the ladies that are quitting for their wonderful help and friendship. You will be missed greatly. Terri Lagneau > Subject: [ILWHITE] So this is good-bye... > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:21:21 -0500 > From: "Pat Davis" <patdavis@midwest.net> > To: ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com > > Charlene Shields is one of the co-founders of the Mary Smith Fay Genealogy > Library; she has been one of the most prolific and knowledgeable researchers > for the Library, and has spent thousands of hours of volunteer time working > at and for the Library. She has also, for several years, written a column > for the Carmi Times: "Notes from the Genealogy Library." > The title of this e-mail is the title of today's column, which appears > in full below: > > So this is good-bye . . . > Saying good-bye is always difficult, but surely writing good-bye is twice as > hard. I expect this to be my last column. I have determined it is time for > me to leave the library. > The library was begun in the mid-1980s, when Bob Wylie gave us half of > his one-room office space in the Ratcliff Inn. Janet Armstrong and Janet > Pritchet were the ones with the vision to start a genealogy library, and it > was started basically with what the volunteers could scrounge up and with > the blessings of the Historical Society. Janet Armstrong paid for bookcases > and brought in a typewriter. Others of us pitched in with buying smaller > items. It was a shoestring operation. > Later, my cousin Mary Smith Fay, a Carmi native living in Houston and a > dedicated genealogist, helped us out financially. The city gave the old > Carnegie building to the Historical Society for us to house our > ever-expanding operation. Mary Fay visited in my home each year and always > visited the library. She was delighted with our endeavors. At her death two > years ago, we learned she had left a considerable bequest to the library. > Since then we have bought a great deal of microfilm, CDs, books and > equipment. Dozens of volunteers have put in thousands of hours in doing > research for people away from here and in helping get the enlarging library > organized. We always had a dozen projects going. We are all immensely proud > of the library. > Recent developments at the library have convinced me that it's time for > me to leave. Janet Armstrong is quitting, also, and the librarian has > resigned. Now, if I may borrow a phrase from Ray Mitchell, "'Nuff Said." > One of the tasks I've most enjoyed during the past several years has > been writing this little column. I've enjoyed the input and comments from > readers. I shall miss you, and perhaps a few of you will miss me, too. > After having spent most of my spare time for the past 14 years working > on some library project, I'm looking for a new hobby. Anyone have one of > those little looms? Maybe I could start weaving pot holders. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] So this is good-bye... > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 19:09:14 EDT > From: BeeandBop31@aol.com > To: ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com > > Pat, > I could cry! For several years now you three have been my friends even > though we have never met. I have notes from Janet and Charlene in my files > that they kindly sent me in addition to whatever I had requested. Most > people would have sent the books or whatever I had written them for, but they > went beyond the "duty" their volunteer status dictated and wrote the notes > offering more helpful information than I had any right to expect. > > As for you - I relied on you even before you moved to White County. Your > books have been invaluable for the armchair research that many (most?) of us > are forced to do if we are to accomplish any research at all. Since you have > been in White County you have been available (and invaluable) for research to > help solve any genealogy question we throw at you and your computer. I know > nothing of the reasoning behind the exodus of you three angels, but I do know > that the Library will not hum with the same tune that it has in the past > years. You will most assuredly be sorely missed. > > Pardon me. I have to go do my crying now. > Shirley Malone Fritsche > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: [ILWHITE] So this is good-bye... > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:16:57 -0700 > From: "Carolyn White" <intrees@pacifier.com> > To: ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com > > Shirley and All, > > I think you have put into wonderful word the feeling that many of us > have. > > As I limp and struggle along trying to research my father's line in > Pennsylvania I often find myself telling others of all the available > material that can be found in Illinois , especially White Co. And of the > very helpful people , always willing to do more. > > Carolyn Campbell White > > -----Original Message----- > From: BeeandBop31@aol.com [mailto:BeeandBop31@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:09 PM > To: ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] So this is good-bye... > > Pat, > I could cry! For several years now you three have been my friends even > though we have never met. I have notes from Janet and Charlene in my files > that they kindly sent me in addition to whatever I had requested. Most > people would have sent the books or whatever I had written them for, but > they > went beyond the "duty" their volunteer status dictated and wrote the notes > offering more helpful information than I had any right to expect. > > As for you - I relied on you even before you moved to White County. Your > books have been invaluable for the armchair research that many (most?) of us > are forced to do if we are to accomplish any research at all. Since you > have > been in White County you have been available (and invaluable) for research > to > help solve any genealogy question we throw at you and your computer. I know > nothing of the reasoning behind the exodus of you three angels, but I do > know > that the Library will not hum with the same tune that it has in the past > years. You will most assuredly be sorely missed. > > Pardon me. I have to go do my crying now. > Shirley Malone Fritsche > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] So this is good-bye... > Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 22:52:58 -0500 > From: Cindy Birk Conley <cbconly@midwest.net> > To: ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com > > Listmembers, > > I, too, was saddened to read Charlene's column in today's Carmi paper. > We have had a summer of meetings of the historical society and its Mary > Smith Fay trust committee, and hoped that some important compromises had > been reached after a joint meeting on August 26th. I had considered the > problems to be the normal "growing pains" of the library. However, Ms. > Davis resigned the next day and Mrs. Armstrong and Mrs. Shields soon > indicated their intentions to generally cease their association with the > library. Charlene and Janet were my mentors in genealogy, and all three > women have given many, many hours to genealogy. > > However, the White County historical society has employed a new > librarian, and has the same library chair and most of the same > volunteers who have served for several years. It may take a long time > for the library to operate as efficiently as it has in the past, and for > awhile the library is going to have to concentrate on service rather > than publishing new books. > > If anyone is interested in more of the non-genealogy details please > email me privately. Do remember that the library has new hours, > developed from a review of volunteer and patron comments: Tuesday > through Friday, 11:30 am to 4:30 pm. Saturday hours will be available by > appointment. Please contact the library at 618-382-8425 for more > information. > > Cindy Birk Conley > Treasurer, White County Historical Society > White County GenWeb Coordinator > > ______________________________ > > Subject: [ILWHITE] (ILWHITE) So this is good-bye... > Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 02:03:39 -0500 > From: "Janet Armstrong" <jawchs@midwest.net> > To: ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com > > Shirley and Carolyn, > > Thank you very much for the kind words. And to Johanna, Marian, Janice, Debbie K., Lee, Kathleen, Ron S., and all my other genealogy friends, I will be missing all of you but I will always think of you. For the past two years I wasn't in the Mary S. Fay Gen'l Library much, but was there for support and their calls when they wanted to know about some of the older things in the library. > > I had a lot of health problems, not serious, but as my doctor said, many aggravating conditions. I stayed home so much, thinking of my pains, that I was rapidly getting old. But I am greatly improved !! This recent problem at the library has brought me back to life. My daughter said, "Mom, I haven't seen this much enthusiasm from you in a long time." I am back on my computer and doing my own family research. I won't be in the library as a volunteer, but will grab my cane and go there to use the wonderful books, disks, films, and equipment, most of which were made possible by my friend, Mary Fay. > > I am still on line and would like to hear from all of you at times. My e-Mail address is jawchs@midwest.net. I am also back on ILWHITE-L. Janet Armstrong

Dear Listmembers-- I think Cindy has an excellent idea: > If anyone is interested in more of the non-genealogy details please > email me privately. And after you get Cindy's "story", you can email me privately at patdavis@midwest.net and I'll give you the real scoop. Pat Davis

Hi Shirley - Thanks so much for the kind words! I know you have every White County book ever printed, and though we haven't met, as you said, I think of you as an old friend. But stay tuned---I haven't quit making books; I'm just not going to be making them for the library any more. Already have a couple in the works... Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: <BeeandBop31@aol.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] So this is good-bye... > Pat, > I could cry! For several years now you three have been my friends even > though we have never met. I have notes from Janet and Charlene in my files > that they kindly sent me in addition to whatever I had requested. Most > people would have sent the books or whatever I had written them for, but they > went beyond the "duty" their volunteer status dictated and wrote the notes > offering more helpful information than I had any right to expect. > > As for you - I relied on you even before you moved to White County. Your > books have been invaluable for the armchair research that many (most?) of us > are forced to do if we are to accomplish any research at all. Since you have > been in White County you have been available (and invaluable) for research to > help solve any genealogy question we throw at you and your computer. I know > nothing of the reasoning behind the exodus of you three angels, but I do know > that the Library will not hum with the same tune that it has in the past > years. You will most assuredly be sorely missed. > > Pardon me. I have to go do my crying now. > Shirley Malone Fritsche > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Sorry everyone, I hit the wrong reply button, I meant for the message to go to Cindy.

Hi Cindy, Ok, I would like to hear the story. It sounds like there is a whole lot more going on here than what's coming through the list. As a Historical Society member (granted, at-large) and a cousin to the late Mary Smith Fay, I am very curious. Thanks, Diane Lehner

Shirley and Carolyn, Thank you very much for the kind words. And to Johanna, Marian, Janice, Debbie K., Lee, Kathleen, Ron S., and all my other genealogy friends, I will be missing all of you but I will always think of you. For the past two years I wasn't in the Mary S. Fay Gen'l Library much, but was there for support and their calls when they wanted to know about some of the older things in the library. I had a lot of health problems, not serious, but as my doctor said, many aggravating conditions. I stayed home so much, thinking of my pains, that I was rapidly getting old. But I am greatly improved !! This recent problem at the library has brought me back to life. My daughter said, "Mom, I haven't seen this much enthusiasm from you in a long time." I am back on my computer and doing my own family research. I won't be in the library as a volunteer, but will grab my cane and go there to use the wonderful books, disks, films, and equipment, most of which were made possible by my friend, Mary Fay. I am still on line and would like to hear from all of you at times. My e-Mail address is jawchs@midwest.net. I am also back on ILWHITE-L. Janet Armstrong

Listmembers, I, too, was saddened to read Charlene's column in today's Carmi paper. We have had a summer of meetings of the historical society and its Mary Smith Fay trust committee, and hoped that some important compromises had been reached after a joint meeting on August 26th. I had considered the problems to be the normal "growing pains" of the library. However, Ms. Davis resigned the next day and Mrs. Armstrong and Mrs. Shields soon indicated their intentions to generally cease their association with the library. Charlene and Janet were my mentors in genealogy, and all three women have given many, many hours to genealogy. However, the White County historical society has employed a new librarian, and has the same library chair and most of the same volunteers who have served for several years. It may take a long time for the library to operate as efficiently as it has in the past, and for awhile the library is going to have to concentrate on service rather than publishing new books. If anyone is interested in more of the non-genealogy details please email me privately. Do remember that the library has new hours, developed from a review of volunteer and patron comments: Tuesday through Friday, 11:30 am to 4:30 pm. Saturday hours will be available by appointment. Please contact the library at 618-382-8425 for more information. Cindy Birk Conley Treasurer, White County Historical Society White County GenWeb Coordinator