Janean, I have a Mary Skiles in my family. She married Wiley Downs. Would she be your Skile?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janean Ray" <JRay38@neo.rr.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:42 AM Subject: [ILWHITE] ADAMS > Looking for anyone with information on the ADAMS of White County, Carmi, Enfield Twp. > > Other surnames: MARLIN, ADAMS, SKILES, WILSON > > Janean Ray > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Your William & Benjamin Bruce would be the brothers to Isaac Jones Bruce who married Lucy Walters daughter of Anderson & Elizabrth (Joyner)Walters. Anderson would be my ggg grandmother, Martha Gossett's brother ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Dugger" <cvdugger@allera.net> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:38 AM Subject: [ILWHITE] Bruce/Wilkerson > Re Alexander E. BRUCE: > > I do not have any information about this Alexander BRUCE in my files, but I > do suspect that he is a branch of the Bruce family from which I descend. I > have no information about anyone named Wilkerson in my files in connection > with the BRUCE line. I am more inclined to think this Alexander may be from > the PHIPPS branch of the family, but as I said, I don't know for sure. > There were a lot of Bruces and my own line comes from my gggm Milly BRUCE > (b. 1788) who married Dread DUGGER in Tennessee and then moved to Omaha, IL > in around 1832. Milly had several brothers, Walker, Littleton, Jefferson, > Madison and Benjamin BRUCE, and several sisters as well. Milly's father was > William BRUCE (wife named Mary) and William's brother Benjamin and married > Mary Crysel then came out from VA ending up in White Co IL. Benjamin's line > is the main White Co IL line which gets into the TROUSDALE and PHIPPS lines > in White Co. > > Always seeking more data on them! > Carol Dugger > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Was there a Poole connection? I notice Alexander's father middle name was Pool. There were a lot of them in Norris City. ANd Thomas Milligan Vineyard 1st wife was Priscella Poole. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Dugger" <cvdugger@allera.net> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:38 AM Subject: [ILWHITE] Bruce/Wilkerson > Re Alexander E. BRUCE: > > I do not have any information about this Alexander BRUCE in my files, but I > do suspect that he is a branch of the Bruce family from which I descend. I > have no information about anyone named Wilkerson in my files in connection > with the BRUCE line. I am more inclined to think this Alexander may be from > the PHIPPS branch of the family, but as I said, I don't know for sure. > There were a lot of Bruces and my own line comes from my gggm Milly BRUCE > (b. 1788) who married Dread DUGGER in Tennessee and then moved to Omaha, IL > in around 1832. Milly had several brothers, Walker, Littleton, Jefferson, > Madison and Benjamin BRUCE, and several sisters as well. Milly's father was > William BRUCE (wife named Mary) and William's brother Benjamin and married > Mary Crysel then came out from VA ending up in White Co IL. Benjamin's line > is the main White Co IL line which gets into the TROUSDALE and PHIPPS lines > in White Co. > > Always seeking more data on them! > Carol Dugger > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Alexander died in Godfrey IL Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Dugger" <cvdugger@allera.net> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:59 AM Subject: [ILWHITE] Alexander E. Bruce obit > > > This obit had his last name listed as Godfrey, but that must have been a > typo as the rest of the article seems to confirm his name was Alexander E. > Bruce. > Carol Dugger > > > Alexander Bruce GODFREY > > > > > January 12, 2003 > > > > > > Alexander E. Bruce, 87, died at 1:05 p.m. Friday, Jan. 10, 2003, at > St. Anthony's Health Center, Alton. He was born July 12, 1915, in Ridgeway, > Ill., to Orval Pool and Ida Jerrells Bruce, now deceased. He married the > former Vesta Eilene Bradshaw May 27, 1939, in Alton. She died May 2, 1996. A > member of the Presbyterian Church and the Society of Engineers, he formerly > owned and operated his own design and development company for 35 years. > > Surviving are two sons and their wives, Larry and Bobbi Bruce of St. > Charles, Mo., Richard and Teri Bruce of Indianapolis; two grandsons; and a > brother and his wife, Willard C. and Bernie Bruce of Godfrey. > > Graveside services will be held at 2 p.m. Monday at Valhalla Memorial > Park in Godfrey. The Rev. Leroy Smith will officiate. > > Memorials may be made to the American Diabetes Association. > > Elias-Smith Funeral Homes and Crematory in Alton is in charge of > arrangements. > > ©The Telegraph 2003 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Godfrey might have been his home location. There is a town named that in nearby Madison Co. (note the "of Godfrey" in obit. --- Carol Dugger <cvdugger@allera.net> wrote: > > This obit had his last name listed as Godfrey, > but that must have been a > typo as the rest of the article seems to > confirm his name was Alexander E. > Bruce. > Surviving are two sons and their wives, > Larry and Bobbi Bruce of St. > Charles, Mo., Richard and Teri Bruce of > Indianapolis; two grandsons; and a > brother and his wife, Willard C. and Bernie > Bruce of Godfrey. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

My family connections to the Lick Creek Cemetery and Church: from the church records. Some of which are on microfilm at the LDS Family History Center. In 1827 (Robert) Coleman (Hoskins) joined the Lick Creek Primitive Baptist Church by experience. In July, 1832 he reported himself to the congregation for being intoxicated. They forgave him. He was ordained by this church as a preacher of the Old School Baptist. Also, joining the Lick Creek Primitive Baptist Church was his sister Nancy in 1826 and Margaret Hoskins (sister or wife?) in 1836. By 1839 the church had ordained him to preach, according to the church meeting minutes. "He arrived in White Co., Illinois as a young lad. His first wife was Margaret S Vought, and his second wife Mrs. Lucretia Chapman, lived to 86 years." (from Historical Sketch of White Co., Illinois 1883). Robert Spence born in Linlithglow , Scotland is buried there. Robert Spence apprenticed as a wheelright in early life and then studied Architecture working with Mr. Luce in Edinburgh before he immigrated to America in 1817. He arrived in New York City working at a carpenter's trade. Then moved to Utica, where he helped build the first bridge across the Mohawh River. In 1819 he headed to Pittsburg then on down the Ohio to Cincinnati. Here he heard that New Orleans was a good place for carpenters and headed there. The river was low so the boat had to tie up and he determined to go to St Louis instead carrying his tools in a lumber cart. About Sacramento, Ill he stopped with Robert Wilson where he left his tools and continured on to Carmi a village of a few houses. Marrying the daughter of Robert Wilson,he lived near him for several years. In 1829 they moved to Carmi, Ill until 1842 as he worked his trade. At the White Co. Courthouse he declared his US citizenship on April 9,1831. History of[White County - 1883] Jeannette Maxey billmaxey@compuserve.com

Please change your subject line when the subject matter changes. Then we don't have to open mail that doesn't concern us or even worse...... miss mail that does concern us. No one would know that this e-mail was about the surname BRUCE because of the subject line "Deadline for Newsletter Queries" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Berube" <sheilaberube@msn.com> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Deadline for Newsletter Queries > Could someone please put the info on Alexander E Bruce. I could not get it. > SB > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jeffgossett" <jeffgossett@charter.net> > To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 4:23 PM > Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Deadline for Newsletter Queries > > > > An obtiuary for Alexander E. Bruce, 87, is in today's Alton Telegraph. I > > don't have him in My Bruces Does he relate to anyone? > > cut & paste: > > > http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=6674657&BRD=1719&PAG=461&dept_id=2 > > 5269&rfi=6 > > > > If he is your bunch, please let me Know > > Jeff Gossett > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pat Davis" <patdavis@midwest.net> > > To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 8:21 AM > > Subject: [ILWHITE] Deadline for Newsletter Queries > > > > > > > Hi all - > > > > > > If you have a query for the initial issue of the White County Illinois > > Roots > > > & Branches (the Genealogy Society of White County Illinois newsletter), > > the > > > deadline is January 13, 2003. Please be sure to include both your > > snail-mail > > > & email addresses, so even non-netters can reply to you. > > > You don't have to be amember to place a (free) query in the Newsletter. > > > Queries can be sent to: > > > genealogy_society@midwest.net or to my own email below--both end up in > > the > > > same place! Or to Genealogy Society of White County IL, P.O. Box 142, > > Carmi, > > > IL 62821-0142. > > > > > > Our first meeting of 2003 will be Jan. 14, though we don't yet know > where > > it > > > will be held, and will probably be spent mostly on working out the > > > Newsletter logistics (as will most of our meetings!). > > > > > > Meanwhile, keep those memberships and charts rolling in ... from the > > > response so far, we may be printing a book of those charts sooner than > > > expected! We really appreciate all the very positive support we're > > > receiving, from both the web and non-web folks. > > > > > > Happy New Year to all... > > > > > > Pat Davis > > > patdavis@midwest.net > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

<Your William & Benjamin Bruce would be the brothers to Isaac Jones Bruce who married Lucy Walters daughter of Anderson & Elizabeth (Joyner)Walters. Anderson would be my gggf grandmother, Martha Gossett's brother.> Jeff, the in formation I have is Isaac Jones Bruce is the son of Robert BRUCE (B. abt 1764 Culpeper Co VA) d. 1833 and Margaret PARLIER . They were married in 1813 in Wilkes Co NC and the only two children I have listed for them--which of course doesn't mean there weren't others--are: William Mattison Bruce b. 1814 and Isaac Jones Bruce b. 1815. Robert Bruce above was the brother of Benjamin and my ggggf William Bruce (father of my gggm Milly Bruce DUGGER) as well as several other siblings. Of course all the names are just about interchangeable in all these Bruce families so it is hard to sort out which belonged to which bunch! Isaac Jones then proceeded to marry Lucy Walter Dec 3, 1840 in White Co. They had the following children: Elizabeth b. abt 1841, William A. abt 1843, James T abt 1846, Berry T. abt 1849, Mary A. abt 1852, Susan V. abt 1854, Albert N. abt 1858, Lucy L. abt 1861, Josephus abt 1863 and Thomas J abt 1866. My sources for the children are the White CO 1880 and 1860 Census records. Isaac Jones' brother, William Mattison ,married Sarah Maria Millspaugh March 5, 1835 according to the History of White Co. Their children were Thomas, Franklin, a daughter unknown, Isaac T., Solomon S. and Robert J., source also the History of White Co. I will be very interested to hear what you have to say about this. Looks to me like we are at the very least "cousins" , if a few times removed. I am anxious to get your side of the story here. This is the best BRUCE lead I have had in a couple of years! Hurrah! Carol Dugger

I do not have any information on Poole being connected to the Bruce family. I am still working back in the 1880s on the Bruce lines so my information, or rather, lack of same, is in that time period. Carol Dugger

This obit had his last name listed as Godfrey, but that must have been a typo as the rest of the article seems to confirm his name was Alexander E. Bruce. Carol Dugger Alexander Bruce GODFREY January 12, 2003 Alexander E. Bruce, 87, died at 1:05 p.m. Friday, Jan. 10, 2003, at St. Anthony’s Health Center, Alton. He was born July 12, 1915, in Ridgeway, Ill., to Orval Pool and Ida Jerrells Bruce, now deceased. He married the former Vesta Eilene Bradshaw May 27, 1939, in Alton. She died May 2, 1996. A member of the Presbyterian Church and the Society of Engineers, he formerly owned and operated his own design and development company for 35 years. Surviving are two sons and their wives, Larry and Bobbi Bruce of St. Charles, Mo., Richard and Teri Bruce of Indianapolis; two grandsons; and a brother and his wife, Willard C. and Bernie Bruce of Godfrey. Graveside services will be held at 2 p.m. Monday at Valhalla Memorial Park in Godfrey. The Rev. Leroy Smith will officiate. Memorials may be made to the American Diabetes Association. Elias-Smith Funeral Homes and Crematory in Alton is in charge of arrangements. ©The Telegraph 2003

Re Alexander E. BRUCE: I do not have any information about this Alexander BRUCE in my files, but I do suspect that he is a branch of the Bruce family from which I descend. I have no information about anyone named Wilkerson in my files in connection with the BRUCE line. I am more inclined to think this Alexander may be from the PHIPPS branch of the family, but as I said, I don't know for sure. There were a lot of Bruces and my own line comes from my gggm Milly BRUCE (b. 1788) who married Dread DUGGER in Tennessee and then moved to Omaha, IL in around 1832. Milly had several brothers, Walker, Littleton, Jefferson, Madison and Benjamin BRUCE, and several sisters as well. Milly's father was William BRUCE (wife named Mary) and William's brother Benjamin and married Mary Crysel then came out from VA ending up in White Co IL. Benjamin's line is the main White Co IL line which gets into the TROUSDALE and PHIPPS lines in White Co. Always seeking more data on them! Carol Dugger

JoAnn and all, The Lick Creek photo is up at www.rootsweb.com/~ilwhite2/lickcreek.html . The White County genealogy book list is at the historical society page at www.rootsweb.com/~ilwcohs/books.htm . I just reorganized that site a few weeks ago. BTW, the Mary Smith Fay genealogy library in Carmi is reopening after its Christmas break tomorrow, January 14, 2003. It will be open Tuesday-Friday from 11:30 am to 4:30 pm. Other hours can be arranged by request. The library email is WCHSgenealogylib@surffirst.net . Cindy STATOMB@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Cindy, Also could you tell me where I can find the book list on White Co. > I went to rootsweb and couldn't find it. Is it on another web site? Thank > You, JoAnn Russell Statom > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Cindy, Also could you tell me where I can find the book list on White Co. I went to rootsweb and couldn't find it. Is it on another web site? Thank You, JoAnn Russell Statom

Hi Cindy, What is the link to the county web page? I am sorry to hear the church has been torn down, my McGhee family attended the church and are buried in the cemetery. Tula Sharp >From: Cindy Birk Conley <cbconly@midwest.net> >Reply-To: ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com >To: ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Lick Creek Baptist Church >Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:52:40 -0600 > >John, > >I hope to put the Lick Creek photo on the county web page this evening. >I have been adding some obits and wills recently. > >Elder Robert L Webb <bwebb9@juno.com>, who is the Primitive Baptist >librarian and historian says he has Lick Creek records from 1824 to >1984. There may also be some at the genealogy library in Carmi as well. > >I need to go out there and take photos of how it has been cleared off, >and see if the one or two primitive baptists I know have info on how it >was closed. My understanding is that for several years church members >from throughout the county rotated services between the several country >churches and had potlucks to keep all of them going. > >Cindy > >John Hannah wrote: > > > > I, for one, am sorry to hear that the Lick Creek Church was torn down. > > My gggrandfather, Thomas J. Aud, was a minister there in the 1840's. >Both he > > and my ggrandfather and most of their families are buried there. > > Why was the church destroyed? Does anyone know where the church records >are > > stored or if they were even saved? > > I have pictures of the church before it was torn down. I would be >interested > > in any and all pictures of the church as it was being destroyed. > > If anyone is interested in sharing those pictures please contact me at > > jbhannah@earthlink.net . > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

Could someone please put the info on Alexander E Bruce. I could not get it. SB ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeffgossett" <jeffgossett@charter.net> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [ILWHITE] Deadline for Newsletter Queries > An obtiuary for Alexander E. Bruce, 87, is in today's Alton Telegraph. I > don't have him in My Bruces Does he relate to anyone? > cut & paste: > http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=6674657&BRD=1719&PAG=461&dept_id=2 > 5269&rfi=6 > > If he is your bunch, please let me Know > Jeff Gossett > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Davis" <patdavis@midwest.net> > To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 8:21 AM > Subject: [ILWHITE] Deadline for Newsletter Queries > > > > Hi all - > > > > If you have a query for the initial issue of the White County Illinois > Roots > > & Branches (the Genealogy Society of White County Illinois newsletter), > the > > deadline is January 13, 2003. Please be sure to include both your > snail-mail > > & email addresses, so even non-netters can reply to you. > > You don't have to be amember to place a (free) query in the Newsletter. > > Queries can be sent to: > > genealogy_society@midwest.net or to my own email below--both end up in > the > > same place! Or to Genealogy Society of White County IL, P.O. Box 142, > Carmi, > > IL 62821-0142. > > > > Our first meeting of 2003 will be Jan. 14, though we don't yet know where > it > > will be held, and will probably be spent mostly on working out the > > Newsletter logistics (as will most of our meetings!). > > > > Meanwhile, keep those memberships and charts rolling in ... from the > > response so far, we may be printing a book of those charts sooner than > > expected! We really appreciate all the very positive support we're > > receiving, from both the web and non-web folks. > > > > Happy New Year to all... > > > > Pat Davis > > patdavis@midwest.net > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

John, I hope to put the Lick Creek photo on the county web page this evening. I have been adding some obits and wills recently. Elder Robert L Webb <bwebb9@juno.com>, who is the Primitive Baptist librarian and historian says he has Lick Creek records from 1824 to 1984. There may also be some at the genealogy library in Carmi as well. I need to go out there and take photos of how it has been cleared off, and see if the one or two primitive baptists I know have info on how it was closed. My understanding is that for several years church members from throughout the county rotated services between the several country churches and had potlucks to keep all of them going. Cindy John Hannah wrote: > > I, for one, am sorry to hear that the Lick Creek Church was torn down. > My gggrandfather, Thomas J. Aud, was a minister there in the 1840's. Both he > and my ggrandfather and most of their families are buried there. > Why was the church destroyed? Does anyone know where the church records are > stored or if they were even saved? > I have pictures of the church before it was torn down. I would be interested > in any and all pictures of the church as it was being destroyed. > If anyone is interested in sharing those pictures please contact me at > jbhannah@earthlink.net .

Wanda, I have lots of info about Enfield at http://home.midwest.net/~cbconly/enfield.htm and the three sections of the 1953 Enfield history that link to it. Didn't see any Counsil's, etc. listed in the cemetery book for Enfield or St. Patricks cemetery but the readers did a particularly poor job of recording that one. Cindy Rosewillis6649@aol.com wrote: > > I am looking for the resting place for James David Counsil/Council died 1911. > There is a connection to Enfield. My husband remembers the Council men > always talking about Enfield. Any information would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks Wanda >

I am looking for the resting place for James David Counsil/Council died 1911. There is a connection to Enfield. My husband remembers the Council men always talking about Enfield. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Wanda

1870 census, Burnt Prairie Twp., White Co., IL: Coale, John, 23, m, w, b. PA, famer Margaret, 17 Charles, 10 William, 7 mos. --- Pat Leatherman <wildwood@surewest.net> wrote: > If someone has a copy of the 1870 census would > it be possible to check if > there was a John H. Coale living in White > County with his wife Margaret. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Is this BRUCE line connected to the Wilkerson's ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Dugger" <cvdugger@allera.net> To: <ILWHITE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:20 PM Subject: [ILWHITE] Alexander Bruce > Jeff, thank you very much for this link. I believe this Alexander Bruce is > in my line, although not quite sure where he fits into the huge BRUCE > picture yet. > > Carol Valantine Dugger > Rio Vista, CA > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >